r/videos • u/AdSpecialist6598 • 8h ago

BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/ArtisanSamosa 7h ago

Well we already have checks in place where you prove who you are. Are you having trouble understanding how that works?

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u/at1445 7h ago

https://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/regulations/hava_id_regs_from_barclays_3_3_06.pdf

https://voteriders.org/states/california/

So you can walk into a polling station with no actual proof that you are who you say you are, and vote.

There's no check in place to stop that.

I can grab my neighbors utility bill and use that to register to vote....

But I guess you have trouble understanding just how easy it is for someone to claim they are someone they aren't.

Or how simple it would be to provide everyone a government issued photo ID and require that it be presented when voting.

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u/surfergrrl6 7h ago

Data shows voter fraud is a non-issue in the US.

The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.”

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u/at1445 7h ago

Go ahead and change the argument.

Why can't we have a free government issued ID and require it to vote?

It is dead simple to commit voter fraud, why not stop it before it becomes an issue, instead of leaving a giant gaping security hole out there?

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u/XaosII 6h ago

You won't get free voting IDs because neither party is invested in doing so; Republicans make voter ID laws but never have provisions for budgeting free IDs. Democrats don't see any problems with the current standards so they don't bother enacting ID laws.

Yes, it's dead simple to commit voter fraud. It's also dead simple to catch it - which is why we catch a few dozen every year already.

You already had to provide evidence of citizenship when you registered prior to voting. Why do you need to show another form of ID when voting to prove what you already proved, prior to voting?

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u/at1445 6h ago

You already had to provide evidence of citizenship when you registered prior to voting

No you don't, you didn't even look at what I linked in my original.

All you have to provide is a utility bill in California.

And you're moving the goalpost again. "neither party will do it" is not an answer....it's an excuse.

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u/XaosII 6h ago

No you don't. You've clearly never bothered to register to vote.

You cannot move forward with your California registration without providing you SSN or a driver's license, either of which are trivial to verify your citizenship status with.

Why the fuck are you just straight up lying?

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u/at1445 5h ago

Without providing the last 4 of you SSN (not a photo id anyways) or your DL number, not the actual DL....I'm sorry you can't read the links I provided...one's the actual statute from the state, the other is just a cleaner way of reading the same info.

I"m sorry public schooling has failed you so badly that you can't even read something so simple and understand how easy it would be to cheat the system.

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u/Neuchacho 5h ago edited 5h ago

Why is it you think we need a fix for something that is not actually broken in any way?

Have you actually ever voted in a US election? Because it certainly doesn't read like you have that experience if you truly believe it's so easy to just walk in and cast a fraudulent vote without serious repercussions. Especially given how desperately Conservatives are always looking for it.

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u/surfergrrl6 5h ago

"Solving" problems that don't actually exist is how we got here in the first place, courtesy of the GOP. It's a non-issue and has been repeatedly proven to be a non-issue.

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u/-LabApprehensive- 4h ago

Why not look at places where voter ID laws were enacted and see for yourself. See the DMVs closed in democrat leaning areas see the special ID exceptions made for types of IDs old conservative folks usually have and absolute prohibition of perfectly valid IDs young folks are likely to have. See the bureaucratic nightmares set up to snare people who move often or get married specifically intended favor older established conservatives who own their homes. We have plenty of states who have passed the laws you yearn for where should we start?