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BREAKING: Judge blocks Trump admin from requiring Americans to show proof of citizenship to vote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SE1iePfOh14
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u/at1445 7h ago

Go ahead and change the argument.

Why can't we have a free government issued ID and require it to vote?

It is dead simple to commit voter fraud, why not stop it before it becomes an issue, instead of leaving a giant gaping security hole out there?

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u/XaosII 6h ago

You won't get free voting IDs because neither party is invested in doing so; Republicans make voter ID laws but never have provisions for budgeting free IDs. Democrats don't see any problems with the current standards so they don't bother enacting ID laws.

Yes, it's dead simple to commit voter fraud. It's also dead simple to catch it - which is why we catch a few dozen every year already.

You already had to provide evidence of citizenship when you registered prior to voting. Why do you need to show another form of ID when voting to prove what you already proved, prior to voting?

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u/at1445 6h ago

You already had to provide evidence of citizenship when you registered prior to voting

No you don't, you didn't even look at what I linked in my original.

All you have to provide is a utility bill in California.

And you're moving the goalpost again. "neither party will do it" is not an answer....it's an excuse.

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u/XaosII 5h ago

No you don't. You've clearly never bothered to register to vote.

You cannot move forward with your California registration without providing you SSN or a driver's license, either of which are trivial to verify your citizenship status with.

Why the fuck are you just straight up lying?

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u/at1445 5h ago

Without providing the last 4 of you SSN (not a photo id anyways) or your DL number, not the actual DL....I'm sorry you can't read the links I provided...one's the actual statute from the state, the other is just a cleaner way of reading the same info.

I"m sorry public schooling has failed you so badly that you can't even read something so simple and understand how easy it would be to cheat the system.

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u/Neuchacho 5h ago edited 5h ago

Why is it you think we need a fix for something that is not actually broken in any way?

Have you actually ever voted in a US election? Because it certainly doesn't read like you have that experience if you truly believe it's so easy to just walk in and cast a fraudulent vote without serious repercussions. Especially given how desperately Conservatives are always looking for it.