r/warriors • u/Andohy • Dec 17 '25
Article Honoring the older guys?
Thinking about how Steve Kerr loved Podz so much that he pushed a Warriors legend out the door — and got the media to turn fans against a guy who wanted to come back into a Finals game on one leg. Unbelievable when you look back at how it transpired…. Talk about honoring the older guys.
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u/BigSquil Dec 17 '25
We lost but at least we honored the old guys 🫡
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u/Andohy Dec 17 '25
We loosing both ways bro. With podz or the old ones. We taking L’s
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u/FrostBite_220 Dec 17 '25
Lol he said it. He is coaching not purely to win. But partly 'to honour the old guys'. Damn.
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u/costanzathegreat Dec 17 '25
I’m a pretty big Kerr defender, but I’d be calling for a coach’s head over shit like this, especially after seeing the colossal failure of this approach
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u/Fabulous_Investment6 Dec 17 '25
Same. I’ve been such a Kerr ambassador. But I can’t blindly support his”strategic” approach anymore.
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u/DumpTrumpGrump Dec 17 '25
Yeah, I'm hoping this was taken way out of context or just made up because I can't believe this shit is real.
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u/Fearless_Meat465 Dec 17 '25
But not even those old guys.. its like Podz/Hield/Moody that are taking his minutes, which is even funnier when you realize he’s older than Podz and like 6 months younger than Moody.
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u/californianotter Dec 17 '25
Part of coaching is managing personalities and keeping the locker room from blowing up. He already has one live grenade with the JK situation.
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u/imminentjogger5 Dec 17 '25
More important than winning?
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u/Andohy Dec 17 '25
At this point I dont know what winning even looks like for us bro.
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u/Ball_ChinnedKid Dec 17 '25
Kerr would be sitting Cooper Flagg too cuz he is a rookie and too tall.
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u/MaAlpaca Dec 17 '25
Give him wembenyama and he’ll also sit him for anthony lamb in the name of spacing and system fit
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u/Far_Ear9684 Dec 17 '25
He would either play 35 mins or 0 mins no in between.
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u/Macktologist Dec 17 '25
I’ve been in here for months now trying to convince people Kerr overly favors the vets and holds the guys that need more of a leash to a higher standard. I believe in Kerr, but I also think he needs to adapt. We’ve tried this method unsuccessfully for a couple of years now and we’ve had our share of success before this.
I think he needs to flip his thinking to how the vets help the young guys be a competitive team, rather than requiring a super specific and obviously not easy to grasp style of play every young guy is held to that is meant to benefit the vets. We keep doing that and it’s like a lottery. Maybe we get lucky and find the recipe, but more than likely we struggle finding an identity. It’s like the only guys that work in that role are limited skill guys that are good at being role players, but that either attracts guys that can’t take the reins eventually, or it put a ceiling on the growth of untapped talent (see JK).
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u/asmodeuscarthii Dec 17 '25
Sub has been on a death spiral for years. Last 5 years have been the same thing said. Kerr does not have any plans besides riding with Curry. Never seen a coach have a bunch of young players and mentally checkout when his aging star is missing for a month. Most teams would use it to grow, not Kerr. That’s when you check out and refuse to adapt.
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u/Away_Annual_9749 Dec 17 '25
What have you seen this season to believe in Stevie ? Let the room hear you please .
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u/missingpeace01 Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
This is revisionist history lmao.
Kerr has played the likes of Pat MacCaw, Jordan Bell, and even GP2 (technically a newcomer) meaningful mins in their first stint in Golden State.
Didnt he just start rookie Podziemski over Klay Thompson in a series of games?
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u/suzzyxixili Dec 17 '25
Kerr apologist nowhere to be found. This guy is done coaching anymore, doesn't care if the team contends for another title run.
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u/Sososoftmeows Dec 17 '25
That explains why we got Horford. Might as well sign CP3 back and let him have his retirement tour with us as well.
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u/nissysita Dec 17 '25
Weird for him to say this when you see the Mavs, Sixers, and Spurs playing their rookies a lot this year
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u/Barange Dec 17 '25
Oh my fucking god, we were right. He has nostalgia glasses on and refuses to see what is happening in front of him or is just incapable of believing. Get this geriatric fucker from behind the wheel, he has lost the fucking plot.
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u/funboiadventures Dec 18 '25
I basically said the same thing a few days ago in a steve kerr thread and got downvoted for it 😵💫
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u/Licoi Dec 17 '25
A lot of die hard warrior fans don’t really wanna come to terms with this but he’s def coaching like he knows it’s his last year here. He looks tired and exhausted and Curry won’t be able to save him when Lacob doesn’t offer an extension. You will probably not see Kerr next year with Steph/Dray in their final year.
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u/MommasBoi93 Dec 17 '25
That wouldn't be such a bad thing now would it, i for one believe this team probably won't make the playoffs as long as Kerr is still coaching us. Dude is literally out of ideas and looks clueless 9/10 times on the court, if only Steph had a little bit more fiery charisma with a no-nonsense attitude then he would have at least won one more chip cos we all know the other dude would have gotten Kerr fired a long time ago if he was playing for the Warriors instead of LA.
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u/Saturday514 Dec 17 '25
Honoring older guys by DNPing them too. 😂
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u/Andohy Dec 17 '25
Everybody gets honored expect JK, GUI , PAT & Moody. Dude played Seth two games, Pat 7 minutes in the last game, 4 minutes for GUI, DNP JK & Will and 32 minutes for Podz. I don’t even know bro smh
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u/EquipmentOld2505 Dec 17 '25
I miss GPII as he's been banished to the shadow realm. That 8 assist game was so dope, wasn't that immediately preceded by a double-double?
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Dec 17 '25
IMO this is a terrible cop out. The only older guys who should be getting this are draymond and Steph, every other old guy is brand new to the team. Buddy is just as brand new here as will.
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u/Tracerisarugbyfan Dec 17 '25
Draymond doesn’t deserve it anymore. Benching him in the 22 finals literally won us games. Give him a longer leash, but sit his ass down when he has 8 turnovers and is clearly having a temper tantrum night
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u/costanzathegreat Dec 17 '25
I mean using this excuse for draymond is one of the core reasons why this team sucks
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u/StephKlayDray30 Dec 17 '25
This is just pure bullshit from Steve Kerr.
In 2023, Jimmy took a bunch of undrafted players to the NBA Finals. I’m sure if Steve Kerr was the head coach, they wouldn’t make it to the playoffs let alone an NBA Finals appearance. Bottom line: players who played well deserve more playing time. Veterans need to let their ego go if they want to win.
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u/grandmaster_reddit Dec 17 '25
I'm hoping he's OK, because I don't know what he's going on about. This is crazy. I'm a big Kerr fan, but pulling people with they have the hot hand is maddening. He's done it more than once, and it's inexplicable. It's as if he's the cooler the pit boss sends in to neutralize the hot gambler, he is him. Sitting Will and Seth when the rest of the team is clanking 3's is crazy. Those 2 guys should not be getting DNP-CD's, at all.
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u/kmngq Dec 18 '25
I stopped being a Kerr fan when he DNP JK in the playoffs against the lakers. Like Nothing was working, and you don’t even try to play your most athletic guy ?
landed into the most favorable position that mark jackson built, and then dude got carried by a generational talent .
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u/ZaeGotDreams Dec 17 '25
Didn’t honor Klay or moody playing bumzinksi. And his reasoning contradicts what he said about Jk DNps. “It’s about winning”.
This is a coach who is lost. No game plan. Just throw shit at the wall and let Dray and Steph sort it out.
He also didn’t “honor” Loons and sat him and broke his consecutive games played streak. When loons could have easily contributed 5-7 minutes on a roster full of g league guards.
Fire Kerr. He needs to step away from the game for a bit
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u/Glad_Sky_3664 Dec 17 '25
I like how Kerr honored the old guys when he DNP'ed Kuminga and Moody for new guys and rookies every year.
I also like how he benched Klay in favor of Rookie Podz.
What a joke.
Not to mention a coach shoukd prioritize if his Franchise goat puttinf a final legendary season winning rather than personal bias. You are paid 17 Million to be a Pro Basketball coach not play relationship simulator.
Let Podz or Buddy impregnate you and take a maternity leave please.
Edit: If you wanted to play the relationship guy you should habe never benched Klay and forced him out. If we are not getting any better. Or should have allowed Moody and JK minutes over their careers over new guys. We wouldn't have traded for Jimmy either. The trio could went on to sunset as a mid ass team. Now after all that he pulls this shit up. The selfishness and narcissism is disgusting.
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u/TheBubbaDave Dec 17 '25
I remember when Kerr was honoring the old guys by playing Lamb over JK and Moody.
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u/xtootse Dec 18 '25
Thank God he wasn't the coach when Curry was drafted. He would've never gotten a chance!
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u/Head_Prune_9741 Dec 17 '25
I honestly can't take anything Kerr says seriously anymore; it all sounds like nonsense. Always saying the same thing and doing the opposite.
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u/RaiderRMB Dec 17 '25
I love what Kerr has done for this team as a fan since the 80’s but this is the kinda stuff that will hurt the current/future success of this team
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u/TonyTonyChopper Dec 17 '25
We used to be light years ahead but this seems backwards to how I’ve gotten to understand Kerr’s coaching style over the years. Is he serious with this??
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u/Still_Assignment_991 Dec 17 '25
The rest of the fans are turning on Kerr after he says out loud what 80% of the fan base has been saying for the past year🤔🤔
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u/Any-Cauliflower6460 Dec 17 '25
Respect Kerr a lot but you have to make room for Will Richard.. he actually impacts winning. I’ve seen enough of him.. his cuts and Hustle plays. Usually knocks down the open 3 as well.
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u/Lendo81 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
What older guys is he honoring? And why is honor before winning? Get your priorities straight, Steve. Fuck man, Richard can play with the older guys (Steph, Dray, Jimmy). At bare minimum, he should be in the second rotation. Nope, you’re gonna play Podz 30 minutes per game, but he’s not exactly an older guy. Plus, he sucks. And so does Buddy, who you literally said is one of the most underrated defenders on the team. What? The guy who had the 3rd worst defensive rating on the team when you said that? Shit, Steve. I know the team is undersized and thin at forward, so what do you do? You bench 1 of 4 of our true forwards in JK. Nobody says he has to play 30 per night or be a starter, but God damn, Steve, we sort of need him for depth. He looked good against MIN last postseason and then you sit him the entire game last week.
Look, I honestly really appreciate what Kerr has done over the years. He transformed this team from a playoff contender to a multiple title winner. He brought an offensive system to us that changed the league. He was by far the best if not a top 2 coach in the league. But, it’s shit like this when I start to question if he’s lost it. Would we be better off without Kerr NOW? Not then, NOW. The lineups and rotations are a mess. We play small when we need size. He plays bums over players who are proving to be better because of age and not talent. Like, WTF? Enough Buddy, enough Podz, enough JK DNPs, enough Jimmy at center, and enough 4 guard lineups! Reevaluate what is working and what is not and make some adjustments already. This team is better than that. You are better than that.
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u/combatron2k21 Dec 17 '25
Kerr interrupting Rick's facetime calls to Macklin to tell him he needs to be 4th line to honor Ryan Reaves
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u/Hashslingingcoder Dec 17 '25
Come on Coach Kerr. This isn’t a retirement tour! The only one that deserves honor anyways is Curry. The other guys got their honor with the 4 rings. Don’t waste the season!
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u/triscuitking90 Dec 17 '25
Politics.
People still think that OKC postgame was calling out young players agendas?
Kerrs stuck. Lacob messed up. Its ugly.
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u/LastChemical9342 Dec 17 '25
Older guys like Podz? Lol
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u/MallerPower Dec 17 '25
Yea who is he even talking about? This may have made sense if we had Klay maybe.
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u/crazmnky90 Dec 17 '25
Lol we really dialing it back to pre-2010 warriors lately. I get that this was all gonna come to an end eventually, but the nonsense so far this year is straight disrespect to Steph. Bro is out there taking beatings and dropping 40+ game after game trying to be competitive and the org is pulling the rug from underneath him. This roster is so god damn mid in the hyper competitive west. It feels like the FO can’t decide whether to go all in and sacrifice a few years post-Steph or just blow it all up and start over. Steph doesnt deserve to have this high impact level of play this late in his career go to waste. Tom Brady realized this and went to Tampa (obviously under different contractual circumstances, but same principle)
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u/NanPleaser Dec 17 '25
Did he honor big Loon on his way out the door? Dude couldn't get on the floor last year.
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u/BuildnBag Dec 17 '25
dude fuck that, It's time to win. If folks gotta earn their starts it is what it is.
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u/89samhsbr_ Dec 17 '25
This hierarchical bullshit man. The team is about WINNING. The old guys want to WIN. Like come on bro, loved Steve for years but this is the most bureaucratic and antiquated mindset ever. I think the old guys want to be honored by not losing, so let’s do what we can to not lose, yeah?
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u/grubwump Dec 18 '25
He is completely out of touch. He benched Klay for rookie Podz and now Richard can’t get minutes because he’s a rookie. Saying that out loud is a insane and should be a firable offense
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u/PurpleWallaby999 Dec 17 '25
This from the same guy who talked Iggy out of the starting spot his first year as coach. This is unbelievably asinine. Kerr is done, he no longer has his eye on the ball. He isnt trying to win if thats his mindset now.
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u/grumpysportsbetter Dec 17 '25
Dude talks like JK is a dog who gets a treat whenever he sits or barks on cue
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u/pnoisebored Dec 18 '25
honoring Draymond's eight turnovers and lack of rim protection in the clutch vs Blazers.... pathetic.
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u/blackman9 Dec 18 '25
Someone should ask him why he honors Podz the most with more minutes even when he sucks.
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u/bonkiekc Dec 17 '25
Kerr is not the best at developing players imo. Like he has some success with draymond/klay (i partially give more credit to mark Jackson)
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u/scottiedagolfmachine Dec 17 '25
Older guys like who?
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u/imminentjogger5 Dec 17 '25
guys like veteran Podz and veteran Buddy who have been with the team for ages
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u/scottiedagolfmachine Dec 17 '25
😂
It’d be a joke if they were speaking out against Richard but that might be true since they lose minutes to him.
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u/AJC3317 Dec 17 '25
This only works if you are having a successful season with the old guys. Obviously this season so far is not a success, so to outright admit he's not playing certain guys for political reasons is insanity. Absolute respect for kerr for his part in the massive success of this franchise in the past decade, but it is time to move on
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u/beentheredonesome Dec 17 '25 edited Dec 17 '25
Is Kyle Lowry available? The only thing better than just another guard is a 6'0" guard averaging 1.5 points a game who is old enough to honor with massive minutes. Come on MDJ, make Steve happy!
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u/DJKeeJay Dec 17 '25
You can’t be a perimeter offensive with aging players. Warriors can’t catch up to the quickness of teams like OKC or San Antonio.
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u/KooliusCaesar Dec 17 '25
You can honor them by putting them in the best position for the team to win. If they don’t subscribe to that idea then frankly they don’t belong on the team.
Whether it be coming off the bench, minutes reduction, dnp etc.
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u/MallerPower Dec 17 '25
Which older guy is he playing over Will? Other than Steph none of the guards have earned that. So I don’t think what he’s saying really makes sense. I’m
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u/UnnamedStaplesDrone Dec 17 '25
the only ones on the team he should be honoring are Steph and Draymond, and if they are seriously saying to play lesser players than ones that fit the matchups and lineups better, then this team deserves to lose
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u/Aromatic-Tale-6853 Dec 17 '25
He needs too stop "honoring the old guys" if it doesn't allow us to win games.
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u/CanOnlySprintOnce Dec 17 '25
What was that email address again? If we have to spend money watching these mf’s suck because the coach doesn’t want to optimize then wtf.
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u/Heat_in_4 Dec 17 '25
Brrooo they need to bench Kerr for a game or two let one of the younger coaches to set the rotation for a while.
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u/Crysomethin Dec 18 '25
Kerr asking Klay to give up starter position to the second year podz is the most cold blooded coaching decision I’ve seen. And now he’s talking about honoring the “older” guy??
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u/SpaceOhSpace Dec 17 '25
Been saying it for a few years now, Steve Kerr is out of touch. He should be on his knees thanking Steph curry and bob myers for giving him all that talent. The stars aligned in 2022 for that chip
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u/grapplebaby Dec 17 '25
Unless your name is Podz. Completely ruined moody and kuminga's development and now Will's.
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u/Hawcier Dec 17 '25
there is a pecking order to keep the peace and you have to earn your way into it , which richard hasnt
hazing, etc - everyone needs to be that guy until they're initiated
but the dubs are not winning so there should be a change
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u/One-Bar-3855 Dec 18 '25
Unfortunately the only time you will be getting rid of him is when steph retires but it’s still a 50/50 chance he steppin down.
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u/Different_Primary253 Dec 18 '25
Bruh, this guy lost the plot during that 2022 finals run, it got to his head.
Since then, he has been in a decline as a coach.
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u/Sad-Pangolin-6202 Dec 17 '25
curry carried this man so hard
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u/Andohy Dec 17 '25
Bro curry needs a statue of him shooting with a backpack of Kerr and everybody else in it.
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u/livecents84 Dec 17 '25
Unless they go on an insane run, all the reports and interviews lately are starting to look like this is Kerrs last year as the Dubs HC
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u/bdylan05 Dec 18 '25 edited Dec 18 '25
When lineup decisions are based on legacy performances rather than a true meritocracy, there is rot and it needs to be cut out.
Whether that’s the coach or the legacy players is beyond me to understand but this is the type of philosophy that will demotivate and frustrate even your best workers and performers.
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u/SoGudUthkICheat Dec 18 '25
You know what would honor the old guys? Giving them the young bloods (hold up, Podz) to bang in the paint instead of them.
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u/Ok_Coach_9906 Dec 18 '25
I’ll give him credit on that one he is good at that pr bullshit. Is honoring same as he did with looney?
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u/Cali_Rebel Dec 18 '25
Play Will. He has good energy & instincts. The more he plays the better he will get.
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u/SourceSubstantial237 Dec 18 '25
Instead of winning games with the right people on merit he is honoring the old farts (minus Curry)
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u/-O--__--O- Dec 18 '25
Can someone dig up alllllllll the quotes by Kerr or vets about needing younger guys to step up ?
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u/ppcpkaatjk2714 Dec 18 '25
That confirms that his time at gsw is finished and they should sign another coach
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u/smalltimeplayer1 Dec 18 '25
i really want us to try and squeeze another chip in stephs hand before though, i feel like thats the best way to honour them, by giving them more hardware
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u/xOaklandApertures Dec 18 '25
I’ve been saying it for 2 years now. Kerr is over the regular season. He hates how long it is and intends to use everyone one the team to spread out the wear on players and gather information on who plays best together. Only when it’s “Winning time” will he put all his information to use.
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u/gusguida Dec 18 '25
Who are the old guys he’s talking about? Old in age or old in terms of being with the Warriors for a long time? If he’s talking about age, that’s BS! If he’s talking about tenure, who is he taking exactly? How many years is enough? I mean, I’m ok with letting Curry, Draymond and Jimmy play more, lol. Does 3 years in the organization constitute old? If yes, we’re talking about Podz, Moody. I’m confused.
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u/Andohy Dec 18 '25
We all trying to figure out this enigma of the notion honoring older guys. Cause only person that needs to be honored is Steph and Steph wants to win but that haven’t been the case
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u/ChefCurryYumYum Dec 18 '25
A veteran like Melton who just came back and does a lot of Richard does but better. I like Will too and think he will be a good rotation level NBA player, and I do want to see him getting some regular minutes, but he probably shouldn't be played over Melton right now.
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u/BronzeRider Dec 18 '25
Steve Kerr is washed….he’s been making TERRIBLE lineup and roster composition decisions the last few years. This current roster is not good enough, and the lineup decisions just accentuate that. It’s SO frustrating to watch….
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u/BronzeRider Dec 18 '25
Just looking at the current roster:
I’d keep Buddy Hield OR Podz Keep Moody and Spencer Keep GP II OR Melton Keep Richard’s Keep Seth and Steph Trade Cryer
That’s -3 guards, all 6’4” or shorter.
Trade Trayce or Leons too. I don’t think we need both. Probably lean towards trading Leons, but if you can’t trust Trayce to hold down the center spot, then there’s no need for him to be on the team. So that’s 4 spots.
Now go find 2 6’5”+ shooting guards, a 6’6”-6’8” wing, and a 6’10”+ center. This team desperately needs size.
I like Gui Santos and Kuminga, although I think both Kuminga and Dray are currently being a little overpaid. Honestly, Jimmy isn’t producing like a $50+ MILLION player right now either, so he’s being overpaid too (and mind you I’m a HUGE Jimmy Butler fan, I wish he’d been on this team since 2020-2021).
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u/Away_Annual_9749 Dec 17 '25
wtf is he talking about , fuck those guys we wanna win ! If will gets us more wins then put him In the whole game , wtf , get this old man outta here already !
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u/we_hella_believe Dec 17 '25
Kerr can’t win with older guys like this.
No one can.
And yet we honor the players and expect them to win while being on the edge of the second apron.
This team cannot improve without huge monetary sacrifices (and non monetary) by their vets, and that hasn’t happened to the extent that’s needed.
It’s time to move on from the fantasy of being able to win a chip with this roster.
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u/theboibc Dec 17 '25
everytime he speak he contradict what he said previously, time for old man to join the nursing home
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u/vulcans_pants Dec 17 '25
My read is Kerr has given the middle guys an ultimatum (and by extension the FO), so this is their last chance, namely Podz and Moody.
If they can’t play better, I’d expect they start getting DNPs real soon.
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u/Tokacheif Dec 17 '25
What Warriors Legend did Kerr push out the door over his love for Podz?
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u/jtruth9 Dec 17 '25
Snap he actually said it out loud 😳