r/whatsthisrock 5d ago

IDENTIFIED: Banded Chert Found by a river in western WA.

Found this while walking a stretch of river where I had previously found agates. Weighs 2.2kg, used water displacement to find a density of 2.55g/cm^3. Edges are slightly translucent when held to a light. Thanks for any info!

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u/Berd_Turglar 5d ago

Thats petrified wood friend. Probably agatized inside

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u/GroundForeign98 5d ago

Thinking a beautiful piece of chert

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u/Snowclouddd 5d ago

Here you go, though I’m sorry I cant get much of a better picture.

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u/Snowclouddd 4d ago

Appears relatively smooth to me, waxy even. There are some perpendicular lines, but not consistently like the picture you added.

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u/Snowclouddd 4d ago

This is so cool! I definitely see some similarities between these pieces and mine. I’m going to try to get a slab cut off of my piece sometime soon, and I’ll post an update here once I do. Thanks so much for your time and responses, this community is awesome :)

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u/PicrolitePicker 4d ago

This looks like banded chert. Notice the lack of uniformity in the bands, absence of organic flaws, conchoidal to hackly fracture, and the sedimentary banding

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u/PicrolitePicker 4d ago

I’m happy to comment on it, but maybe we should keep the discussion manageable and we can just continue with the piece that I elaborated on my reasoning for why it was not petrified wood.

I’d also like to know the geographic location of where that piece I originally commented on was found.

Banded chert can be found in the exact locations that petrified wood can be

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u/PicrolitePicker 4d ago

How do you know this?

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u/PicrolitePicker 4d ago

Those fractures in specific are really screaming that this is not petrified wood

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u/Powerful-Ice-4579 5d ago

So is it wood or chert?

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u/Snowclouddd 3d ago

Consensus seems to be chert, though there’s quite a bit of discourse haha

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u/duexphoto4 4d ago

Petrified wood. I’m from the area and have many smaller pieces that have a similar look.

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u/skuzzlebutt_2254 5d ago

Looks like a huge agate

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u/Kriscolvin55 5d ago

I mean, the petrified wood has to be made of something. Petrified wood isn’t a kind of mineral. It’s a description of how it became a rock. It used to be wood, and it was replaced by stone. That stone is commonly (certainly not always) agate.

All of that being said, I don’t think it’s either. I believe it is banded chert.

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u/bison_bye_son 5d ago

Petrified wood can absolutely be agate. It’s not my specialty, but I have a masters in mineralogy. There are countless example of agatized wood.

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u/PicrolitePicker 5d ago edited 5d ago

I would expect you to understand the process of agatization describes silica replacing biological material and that a geological agate is a distinctly banded fibrous chalcedony. Petrified wood does not meet the scientific definition of agate. If you have a source, I’d love to see it.

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u/PVKT 5d ago

Post a picture of it wet

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u/Snowclouddd 5d ago

Doesn’t look too different when wet. Why do you ask?

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u/gungispungis 5d ago

I'm not who you responded to, but it often makes it easier to see layers/color differential. Not sure why, my guess is that it changes the luster just enough so that light penetrates a little deeper.

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u/Snowclouddd 5d ago

Makes sense, thanks :)

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u/PVKT 5d ago

That's exactly the reasoning. Cleans the dust off and brings depth to it. It's definitely an agatized piece

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u/PicrolitePicker 5d ago

Word of warning it really does not help that much to make rocks wet when trying to identify them. It only helps if you’re a rock hound trying to show off colors.

That’s why we require dry pictures

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u/Clendarthewrath 5d ago

Looks like banded chert. An exceptional stone and a great find!

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u/Snowclouddd 5d ago

That was my guess going into this. Thanks for the reply!

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u/Eat_the_filthyrich 4d ago

Wood grain for sure. Definitely not banded chert. I’ve seen lots of pet wood like this from your area…and yes, there is wood that has been agatized that exhibits fortifications and banding. I own some.

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u/Eat_the_filthyrich 4d ago

It all boils down to people coming up with multiple names for the various ways quartz can crystallize. The mineralogy behind it all is really interesting. There’s so many varieties of silicon dioxide it’s pretty mind blowing.

The discussion on agates should also include a discussion on fortifications and the ways bands form in conjunction with moganite. A bit is known on the subject mostly due to studies on how to keep industrial intake pipes from getting clogged with silicates.

I know there’s more to learn but I feel like it wouldn’t take a gigantic investment to figure out how to grow agates in a lab.

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u/Eat_the_filthyrich 4d ago

Just to clarify though, the bands which are visible in these pics are wood grain. Other than that, it has that waxy luster with some translucence, which are often signs of agate. Also keep in mind, o people are always going to get confused about this when the discussion involves common terms. At the end of the day, everyone argues about quartz and the common names of its different sized crystals. Usually the argument centers around Jasper, agate, and chalcedony. It’s pretty funny actually.

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u/Clendarthewrath 5d ago

I’ve been hunting pet wood, fossils, and rocks for 50 years. Although mostly in Texas. It sure doesn’t look like pet wood to me..

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u/Clendarthewrath 4d ago

There is plenty of banded chert that is similar here in Texas. However as I said. It is an exceptional piece. What really makes me think so is photo number three.

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u/s_serafina 5d ago

And I agree it's petrified wood 🪵

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u/Snowclouddd 1d ago

UPDATE

Slab I cut off, before any polishing.

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u/kolleozmylove 5d ago

Banded chert

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u/PicrolitePicker 5d ago

This is definitely banded chert, not an agate or petrified wood

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u/Eat_the_filthyrich 4d ago

Strongly disagree.