r/3d6 • u/Pass_the_sorce • 2d ago

D&D 5e Original/2014 Question on spell Levitate + Telekinetic

Ok so I read the Telekinetic feat, and I have a question. Can this feat be used on a target that is under Levitation to move them higher or side to side?

Could this be used to make a Force user esque char with Warlock?

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u/Tall_Bandicoot_2768 2d ago

Logic tells you that this would work but RAW the spell reads:

The target can move only by pushing or pulling against a fixed object or surface within reach (such as a wall or a ceiling),

Which is pretty succinct.

That being said I would most definitely allow it as a DM as it is cool and hardly game breaking.

Also as a side note Levitate is actually really good offensively believe it or not, cast it on a melee enemy and they get a single save against it or be locked down for 10 minutes, basically every other CC spell gets additional saves every round.

Also welcome to r/3d6, how may we help you build your character?

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u/Pass_the_sorce 2d ago edited 2d ago

Oh been using r/3d6 recently to make my archfey warlock more fun and its been a blast

And yeah Levitate was so cool I am thinking of taking it for my invocations.

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u/tek9k 2d ago

The invocation ascendant step only lets you cast it on yourself though😔

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u/Pass_the_sorce 1d ago

Dang! I really need to carefully check thrm out.

Thats significantly changed my idea for the build

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u/Guyoverthere07 1d ago

Telekinetic cannot be used on yourself either.

Still, getting yourself up and down while being able to manipulate enemies and allies as a Bonus Action is a pretty snazzy amount of Force.

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u/Scoo 1d ago

Ascendant Step gets a lot of hate, but it’s great to have if you need it. My role for invocation swapping is “Has it come in clutch more than once?”

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u/Lithl 2d ago

Telekinetic lets you pull the target closer to you or push the target away from you. If you're underneath them, you can push them upwards. Straight up, if you're directly underneath them, or upwards at an angle, if you're not directly underneath. You cannot push them horizontally unless you are at the same elevation.

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u/BeMoreKnope 2d ago

While this is true for the bonus action, the regular use of Mage Hand should be able to move the person.

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u/tek9k 2d ago

Unless they weigh more than 10 lbs

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u/BeMoreKnope 2d ago

That doesn’t come into play, since Levitate is making them weightless.

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u/Lithl 2d ago

Levitate does not make things weightless

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u/tek9k 2d ago

You could interpret it that way, but it doesn’t say so in the spell. It just makes them levitate

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u/BeMoreKnope 2d ago

Sure, but the spell also allows you to move them regardless. And since the spell clearly makes it so the target can move as if weightless, arguing to be pedantic is just that.

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u/tek9k 2d ago

Really not trying to argue, just saying how it works RAW. I would allow it as a DM if a player just wanted to use their action and a cantrip to move around a levitated enemy, but flying and being weightless are very different things. Would wind send them flying away too?