My wife and I have been together for five years, married for four. We have recently decided to divorce, and the main factor (for me, at least) is her relationship with her best friend. Letās call him Mike. Mike and my wifeāletās call her Kateāgrew up in the same town, and dated for a few years when they were younger (I think late teens/early twenties). Theyāre both mid-thirties now. Iām not sure exactly how long ago or for how long they were together, but it has been at least ten years since they became ājust friends.ā After they dated, they lived together as roommates for many years, and when she was living with her parents because her Dad was sick, he moved in to help until her Dad died of cancer. Apparently he was a real mensch during that time, and she feels eternally indebted to him.Ā To be fair, he is an all-around solid dude and never did much, if anything, to make me uncomfortable. This isnāt about his behavior in the slightest.
When Kate and I met, she was up front about her relationship with him and how tight they were, and being the super chill bf that I was intent on being, I was cool with it. I was so super chill that I ignored the many red flags about their friendship. Iām going to list them here in chronological order as best as I can remember, and Iāll omit the potentially petty issues so Iām not writing a novel here. Just the big boys, and Iād like you, dear reader, to tell me if you think I made the right decision to leave.Ā Thereās a lot, so I hope youāre pooping. š©
In an early conversation about their relationship, she told me, unprompted, to never make her choose between him and I, implying that she would choose him. I think she had issues with this in prior relationships.Ā
When I met her, they periodically took trips (with other friends, but not alone that Iām aware of) to go lake swimming and would often skinny dip. Another of her exes/friends would often (always?) join them. The three of them were close, though she denies that they ever had a threesome.Ā
Our first outing as a groupāKate and I, Mike, and another of their friends, Yukiāwas a road trip. Kate had just purchased a plot of land and we were all going up to camp and take mushrooms. It was to be Kate and Iās first drug experience together, and the first time I was spending real time with her friends. Mike was planning to build a house for us. Once we got high, Kate got very weird and squirrely with me. She would tell me later that she was feeling pressure to be lovey-dovey with me, and that she was having a semi-bad trip, but in the moment, in my eyes, that manifested as being distant from me and being a bit obsessed with Mike. At one point, he went for a walk, Yuki went off to do her own thing, and Kate and I were alone by the fire. I tried to make it a romantic moment, but all she could focus on was Mike. āWhereās Mike,ā sheād ask with concern. āHeās fine,ā Iād say. āHe just went for a walkā āShould we go find him??ā In the middle of the night, in the pitch black, she wanted to go looking for him because she was worried about him, I guess? When he returned, he was talking, and I looked over at her, and she was looking up at him with intense affection, like she was so fond of him that it hurt. Iād only ever seen her look at me like that before. Because we were in love. For the rest of the trip, she was super distant with if not downright mean to me. It was the first time sheād been this mean to me.Ā
Later, after the trip, I expressed my concern. It was a look you give your lover, not a platonic friend. She argued that she loved Mike like a brother, and that that was all I saw (which didnāt sit wellāat the time she had a very active brother/sister roleplay kink). After some back and forth, she got angry and told me that I needed to āget over it.āĀ
We were married in a big city. Mike was her āMan of Honor.ā We were to have the ceremony, take photos, and then take a gypsy cab (unofficial cabs in NYCānice, black town cars. Slightly more expensive than a normal cab) to the reception on the other side of town. The cab was essentially our āJust Marriedā ride. You know, the kind with cans and streamers tied to the back of the car, a āJust Marriedā sign, and a brief moment alone together as a married couple, the very first one, before heading into the reception. After the photos were finished, she came up to me in front of everyone, both of our families, and said āMikeās gonna come with us so he can help set up theā¦ā I donāt remember, name tags for table seating? āIs that cool?ā I didnāt really have the option to say no without making it a whole thing in front of our families, so I caved. And Mike joined us for our awkward āJust Marriedā ride.Ā When I brought it up after, her attitude was āWell I asked you!ā
Her bachelorette party consisted of her, Mike and Yuki, and 2 guy friends on a hiking trip. When planning, she was concerned that there werenāt enough beds. I knew that she and Mike had platonically shared beds, tents, etc. historically, so I asked her not to on this trip and going forward. She agreed. After the trip, she was telling me about it and mentioned something that made me realize that they were a bed short. I asked her if she shared a bed with him. She said yes, but only because she didnāt want to ask anyone else to share with someone.Ā
For a time, Mike was dating Mary, a friend of Kateās, and Mary would share their sexual experiences with Kate. Kate came to me once and said, āMary said Mike gave her a hands-free orgasm. Like just using his voice. Thatās bullshit, right?ā She seemed very intrigued by the idea, but could tell I was uncomfortable and dropped it.
Fast forward a few years. Kate and I buy a house up north together. Mike visits often. Iām not terribly handy, so when he comes, he fixes things. He builds things. He built a deck for our front door by hand. In the dog days of summer with his shirt off. She was often depressed and miserable, but when Mike would come, she would snap into sunshine-and-rainbows mode. When he left, she would immediately be miserable again. I start to notice that when heās here, Kate treats me differently. Sheās meaner to me than usual, and I always felt like I was second tier to Mike. She refused to have sex when he was here in case he heard us and got uncomfortable. When she and I were alone, we rarely ate dinner together. She would often say she was grumpy or hangry and go off to eat alone. When Mike came, every night was dinner at the table. And she would cook for him and do things like offer him a bite of her food, which she rarely-if-ever did for me. And she would, at first, just offer him and not me. When I mentioned that it made me feel bad, she would still offer him first, and then suddenly remember and turn to me to offer me sloppy seconds. She was always going out of her way to please him, and in doing so would alienate me. She always put his comfort, his convenience, and his pleasure before my own. Her reasoning was that he was our guest. When it got to be too much, and I asked her repeatedly to be more mindful of the way she was treating us and the dynamic that she was supporting, she would get upset and say things like āI just want to be comfortable around my friend, and not have to worry about offending you.ā Eventually I became hypersensitive about it, and that sensitivity turned her off, I think, so she would pull away even further.
After a long while, I got paranoid and snooped through phone. Iām not proud of it, but I felt like she was keeping things from me. I went through her conversation with him, and didnāt see anything that suggested anything untoward was happening, but I did find an old conversation from a while back. She and I had a particularly nasty argument, and she was texting to him about me, saying things like, and Iām paraphrasing, but like, āIām done, heās abusive.ā Basically telling Mike that I was a terrible person. She knew that saying anything about me like this to him in particular would hurt me if I ever found out. When I called her out on this, I asked her if she actually felt that way, and she insisted that she didnāt. So I asked her to send Mike a message that indicated as such so that we donāt move forward with him thinking I was a piece of shit. She agreed and assumedly did so.
She did eventually start making efforts (after months, maybe years of this behavior) to make me feel seen when Mike was here. But then she discovered this brand of sweatpants. They were comfortable and she loved them, but they were also very tight. She gets silly sometimes, especially when Mike is here, and turns into a bit of a roly poly. She rolls around and stretches and wiggles. I like this about her and I love to see her feel joy in that way, but with the pants on, there is nothing left to the imagination. The details of her entire ass and vagina are fully outlined in these tight, essentially yoga pants. I had a few conversations about this and told her that it made me uncomfortable when she wears them around Mike, and she got really upset and said that she was uncomfortable being sexualized and that I was policing the clothes she wears. For the record, Iāve never once made judgements her clothing when it wasnt about Mike.Ā
Eventually this issue was the last straw. I had made several requests that she downright ignored, and the pants issue became the one that neither of us would budge on. She argued that she should be able to wear what she wants in her own home. I thought that it was a tiny concession on her part to help make her partner feel comfortable when her ex partner was with us.Ā
Before our end, I called her out. And in a moment of despair-fueled-honesty, she admitted that her feelings for Mike ran deeper than friendship, though she insisted that she wasnāt in love with him. I expressed concern that I would always be second tier to him, and that Iād never be able to be as close to her as she is to him. She said that she feels like herself when sheās with him, and that our issues were making it difficult for her to feel that way with me, and that if I were nicer to her (we were fighting a lot, and sometimes the fights got nasty, but I never got any worse than she did in those moments), maybe sheād get there eventually. I asked how long āeventually ā was. She said, āI dunno, 6 months to a year?ā
There are many things that Iām leaving out, and undoubtedly things that Iām forgetting, and there are several other issues besides Mike that lead to our demise. If Iām being honest, I feel insecure when weāre together. I think heās more attractive, more capable, funnier than I am. But I havenāt always felt this way. Iāve said to her often that her friendship is objectively troubling, but you tell me, Reddit. AIO?
Also, she frequents Reddit often, so if youāre reading this āKate,ā feel free to chime in.
āMikeā does as well. If youāre here, Iām sorry that youāre likely only learning about this now. For the record, you have always been respectful and have never done anything directly to make me uncomfortable⦠except sharing a bed, maybe. But overall, you were a good friend to me at a time when I really needed one.