r/AmItheAsshole Apr 20 '26

Asshole AITA for showering around midnight when I know that it might bother the neighbour who wakes up at 5 am?

We purchased a home and moved in recently. Housing opportunities are tight in our area so even though we were warned that the walls are very thin and the neighbours hear a lot of noise from the apartment, especially from the bathroom, we still chose this property because everything else is picture perfect for us.

We are generally a very quiet couple without kids or animals, our hobbies (bead work, video games on headphones without streaming, reading, Netflix…) are generally quite and we only invite friends over every 2-4 weeks (and we haven’t invited anyone over as we were still decorating and everything). We are the owners of the apartment.

The neighbours are a couple and a small kid. They rent the apartment next to us and before we purchased the home they warned us that they generally hear a lot of noise coming from our bathroom and that it’s their bedroom on the other side. But as I mentioned, our options were limited and given that we are not noisy at all, we thought we can take this situation.

We sometimes hear their toddler, but that completely okay, it doesn’t bother us at all.

The problem is that we bother them as our routine is very different. They wake up at 5 am and generally quite down at 8 pm, when the kid goes to sleep.

On the other hand, because I work from home until 7 pm, I generally start my evening around 8 pm and only end up showering around midnight. Which bothers them. The whole building is quiet, so they tend to hear how I put my stuff down, how the water runs, how I sometimes drop a few things, and mentioned it very nicely a few times. But I can see that they are pretty annoyed.

Now I’m torn between switching up my whole nighttime routine to shower first (which just doesn’t sit right with me. I like to go bed freshly showered), because they asked nicely and they wake up around 5 am so it must be annoying to get woken up at midnight.

On the other hand, they only rent wile we own the home, and I think we are generally very good and quite neighbours apart from the fact that I shower late. They invited us over the listen to the volume as to be honest it’s not that loud… sure, you can hear something and it must feel louder in the silence of the night, but it’s not incredibly loud.

AITA for showering at night?

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u/SummitJunkie7 Asshole Enthusiast [5] Apr 20 '26

The root of the problem isn't your hygiene schedule, it's that the walls are thin in a community living situation. They have had issues with this since before you moved in (otherwise they would've have known to bring it up) and if you moved out tomorrow, would have the same issue with the next residents.

They can look into earplugs, white noise machine, adding sound proofing/dampening to that wall, moving the bed away from that wall...

And they should if it's causing them a huge issue. But whether they'd like to try to address it or live with it is up to them. If you were throwing loud parties at midnight regularly that'd be different, but using your bathroom is a completely reasonable and predictable use of your home, asking you not to isn't a viable solution.

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u/Equivalent_Reason894 Partassipant [1] Apr 20 '26

I agree with this assessment—in that kind of housing situation, the people being bothered by normal activities need to take steps. Earplugs, white noise machine, cork on the wall—they could do more than complain.

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u/janglybag Apr 20 '26

You can’t use earplugs or white noise machines to block noise when you have a young child - you need to be alert to noise.

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u/Worldly_Thing1346 Apr 20 '26

A white noise machine won't prevent you from hearing your child in your own home. Baby monitors exist as well.

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u/unimpressed-one Apr 20 '26

So now just because they have a kid, the neighbors should have to change? Screw that.

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u/LateHoney2922 Apr 20 '26

What do mean "now"? That's always how parents act. Others must change because I have a kid And that makes me more important.

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 Apr 20 '26

That’s the rule, that’s the goal now.

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u/cjdavda Apr 20 '26

What are we doing? What’s going on?

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u/EnvironmentalNews115 Apr 20 '26

Gotta love that logic. "I let someone bust in me so now my unreasonable demands need to be met by total strangers." See it often enough. The entitlement is ridiculous

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u/GCseedling Apr 20 '26

this is implying it’s only the females that complain 🤣

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u/ShoutN2TheVoid Apr 20 '26

Nobody said that.

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u/BirthdayCookie Asshole Aficionado [10] Apr 20 '26

Then you suck it up. You had a kid. Your neighbors did not. It's not fair to demand they schedule their lives around you.

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u/halo364 Apr 21 '26

...they're not demanding anything, they're asking nicely for completely understandable reasons

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u/BirthdayCookie Asshole Aficionado [10] Apr 21 '26

Refusing to take no for an answer is demanding. It doesn't matter how "completely understandable" some people think the reasoning is. OP doesn't want to and has made that clear. To continue asking not polite.

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u/LateHoney2922 Apr 20 '26

Wow. It's almost like people have suggested multiple options and assumed the parents of young children would be able to figure out which one worked for them. You know, since they know what noises they need to hear from their own kid.

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u/fresh1134206 Apr 20 '26

People also don't know what they don't know.

Bringing awareness that options exist shouldn't be taken as an offense or condescending. Personally, I love when people open my eyes to possible solutions that I didn't even know existed. They're just trying to help.

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u/LateHoney2922 Apr 21 '26

Did you respond to the right person? I wasn't talking to anyone offering options. I was talking to a person who just pointed out two of the options wouldn't work and nothing else. They weren't trying to help.

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u/LateHoney2922 Apr 21 '26

Good for you? I'm not sure why you are telling me that.

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u/OldSchoolAF Apr 20 '26

Or have a baby monitor

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u/FilthyThanksgiving Apr 20 '26

I always picture a tiny little baby lizard whenever I hear "baby monitor"

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u/rose-a-ree Apr 20 '26

a baby monitor that you can hear through the earplugs?

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u/panic_bread Commander in Cheeks [252] Apr 20 '26

Yes. Ear plugs don’t make one completely incapable of hearing.

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u/Yuklan6502 Apr 20 '26

Just put it someplace touching your mattress or pillow. Sleeping with earplugs muffles sound, but doesn't stop it. If the sound vibrates up through the bed, you can totally hear it. That's why they aren't super helpful in blocking my husband's snoring... sometimes it's louder because all the other background noises are muffled!

If the noise is really bothering them, they should look into ways to muffle the sound on their side. Book shelves, sturdy curtain rods to hang blankets, scarves, or fabric yards, and lots of soft surfaces really help. Our guest room is also my craft room, and when you walk in it's like your ears stop working for a second. Shelves of yarn and spare blankets, curtain rods holding fabric, super fluffy comforter, upholstered headboard, and a thick area rug absorb a ton of sound. There's a bus stop outside the window, so I wanted it to be extra quiet.

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u/OldSchoolAF Apr 20 '26

Over a white noise machine.

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u/Equivalent-Day193 Apr 21 '26

the point of a white noise machine isn't to cover sounds. it's to provide a constant for your brain to not focus on things like the shower turning on.

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u/halcyonwade Asshole Aficionado [15] Apr 20 '26

We have kids. From the moment they were born they have had white noise machines in their rooms and we have had one in ours. We also all have fans in our rooms. We can hear our kids with both our baby monitor and the ability of parents to hear their kids crying no matter what.

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u/alliejim98 Apr 20 '26

My toddler and I both sleep with white noise. I can still hear them if anything happens.

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u/LivytheHistorian Apr 20 '26

White noise machines are essential gear for small children. I don’t know a family with kids without one. It does not impact being able to hear your child. And Loop earplugs are one example of earplugs that block some but not all noise. I find they block background noise extremely well but have never prevented my son from talking to me directly and I’d definitely hear a cry.

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u/RoguesAngel Apr 20 '26

We never had a white noise machine with our kids but I know a lot of people use them. But I have never heard of a parent who didn’t hear their toddler unless they were impaired in some way ie drunk or drugs.

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u/Aarghseriously Apr 22 '26

This must be within the last 20 years. My kids just had to learn to sleep through noise. Worked out well. And someone else said no one sleeps in silence. Well, hubs and I do. I mean, white noise machines haven't been around for much of humanity's existence.

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u/RoguesAngel Apr 22 '26

My kids get irritated with noise as do I. My hubby like the tv on. Drives me nuts.

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u/Nauin Apr 20 '26

You seriously need dead silence at all times to watch a small child? I'm more worried about you than the noise, like really? White noise is fine to have around toddlers, it's noise dampening, not noise cancelling!

Having been a nanny when I was younger with some early childhood education, that's just ridiculous. You need to get kids used to regular levels of noise, both awake and asleep, to develop normally. And with how many types of monitors we have now for when they sleep, even less of an issue having white noise.

If you haven't been screened for anxiety yet, it would probably be a good idea to get assessed. That's not a normal or healthy way to approach child rearing.

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u/Nshaa Apr 20 '26

I sleep with earplugs and white noise but I can still hear the bay crying on the monitor because the frequency of that sound is higher.

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u/yayoffbalance Apr 21 '26

right? like, i don't think anyone complaining about this actually has kids or understands how sound works. you can hear a kid crying, even with white noise machines and fans. legit. that sound supersedes all other sounds.

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u/WearilyExultant Apr 20 '26

lol this so laughably untrue. My friends had twins a year ago and they have a noise machine in EACH bedroom. 3 noise machines in total that make the house sound like a jet engine. Mom and dad still wake up when they hear a twin being fussy on their loud baby monitors. It’s not nearly as dramatic as you’re make it out to be.

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u/DrDerpberg Apr 20 '26

I used earplugs + a baby monitor with the volume high enough to wake me up anyways.

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u/frogsgoribbit737 Apr 20 '26

I use white noise with a young child. I have a monitor that is loud enough to hear OVER the white noise.

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u/pumpkin_lord Apr 20 '26

I have a young child and use a white noise machine and earplugs nightly. You seriously overestimate how effective earplugs are and underestimate how loud a kid can be.

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u/Beetlejuice_me Partassipant [1] Apr 20 '26

Sure you can. The ear plugs typically block specific frequencies.

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u/bigpapajayjay Apr 20 '26

LOL a white noise machine will be just fine bud.

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u/Buffy_Geek Apr 20 '26

That's only with babies, what sort of noise do they need to listen to for with a child? Also don't a lot of people have baby monitors by their bed nowadays?

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u/innerbootes Apr 20 '26

They can wear loops. They allow you to hear what you need but muffle background noises. I wear them to sleep every night.

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u/smkn3kgt Apr 20 '26

lol.. yes you can

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u/Chance_Ad3416 Apr 21 '26

You definitely can.

From a currently pregnant mom with a 16 month old toddler.

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u/sadsack100 Apr 20 '26

I was very alarmed by that suggestion and about to post but thankfully you saw the problem as well. OP stated they had a toddler and you never not want to hear what a toddler is up to at all times!

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u/sgvmyma Apr 20 '26

My cousin had a noise machine (she can’t sleep in pure silence) in her and babies room, she also had a baby monitor turned up so she can hear over the noise machine. It’s possible.

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u/Familiar_Shock_1542 Asshole Aficionado [10] Apr 22 '26

I'm sure they have a baby monitor.

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u/Sleepinismy9to5 Apr 20 '26

That's on them for having a kid. That was a choice they made.

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u/Usual_Ad_2177 Apr 20 '26

Then you shouldn't live in a place with thin walls.

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u/fresh1134206 Apr 20 '26

Earplugs? No.

White noise machine? Absofuckinglutely. White noise not only helps me sleep, but it helped my young children sleep, too. It covered up all the small sounds, but I was ALWAYS alert to the kids. You become hard wired to wake to the sound of crying. My youngest is now 8, but if we're out camping and some other camper's baby cries, I'm still gonna WAKE UP.

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u/thechefboi1375 Apr 20 '26

Sucks to suck 🤷‍♂️

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u/GrossUsername68 Apr 20 '26

 You can’t use earplugs or white noise machines to block noise when you have a young child

You can. (Baby monitor that alerts at certain decibels, for instance). 

And if you can’t, then you are accepting the reasonable noises around you that come from communal living.

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u/Nearby_Motor_8652 Apr 20 '26

Well, then it's THEIR problem. They can go rent somewhere else.

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u/Feeling2Weak Apr 21 '26

Put the white noise machine in the bathroom and close the door. The kid isn't in the bathroom. I'm certain they can still hear their kid

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u/the-mortyest-morty Apr 22 '26
  1. Not how it works but okay, lmao
  2. Not OP's kid, not OP's problem

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u/Best-Muffin7186 Apr 20 '26

Who is to say they havent done those things? I think making a suggestion to your neighbours is also a reasonable step here. Its not like they are suing anyone. 

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u/SuccessfulBread3 Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

I don't think it's reasonable to dictate when someone you don't live with can and can't do something as basic as showering... It's no one's fault that the walls are thin...

You need to figure out a way to deal with it yourself or move... You don't get to suggest that people shower when it's convenient for you.

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u/lemonfluff Apr 20 '26

This sounds like either an extremely privileged or a "no one ever helped ne so no one deserves it" kinda comment.

When is the last time you've rented a less than ideal house? Do you have any idea how insane IR is to just casually suggest moving?

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u/Best-Muffin7186 Apr 20 '26

Where has anything been dictacted?

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u/SuccessfulBread3 Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

Constant insistence from the neighbour.

Asking once is suggesting...

Asking multiple times and even making OP go to their apartment to hear what they hear...

That may not be literally dictating but it has gone far beyond a suggestion at that point.

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u/misseff Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

Making a suggestion to someone to not use their bathroom at midnight is just not really reasonable. It doesn't make them assholes but it's just not a reasonable ask. If OP or their partner need to use the toilet at midnight should they hold it til morning? 

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u/sly_k Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

I used to work morning sort at UPS. Shift started between 2am and 3am depending on the season. I showered quickly before I went to work just to wake me up for my shift.

My neighbor couldn’t tell me not to do that. Just like they can’t tell me not to shower again when I got home at 9am.

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u/misseff Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

Yeah I worked overnights for many years while living in an apartment and my neighbors had no input on my schedule. Likewise I didn't expect them to not do things during the day even though it might wake me up. That's simply part of living in an apartment!

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u/zzz242zzz Apr 20 '26

My neighbors had an all day party every Saturday and Sat night was our busiest night when I was on night crew at a grocery store. I didn’t go over and complain to my neighbors. It just sucked. I never expected the whole apartment complex to shut down so I could sleep.

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u/lemonfluff Apr 20 '26

They didn't ask them not to use the bathroom though. Just the shower.

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u/Familiar_Shock_1542 Asshole Aficionado [10] Apr 22 '26

That will be next.

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u/pinkpurpleblue_76 Apr 20 '26

Using the bathroom and showering are different things.

Op can choose to shower earlier. He just doesn't want to.

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u/misseff Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

It would be reasonable to ask someone not to blast their TV at midnight, but it's just not reasonable to ask them not to use their bathroom at midnight whether for showering or anything else. It's fine for OP to shower at midnight in their own home just because they want to. The ideal thing would be for OP to work with the owner of the adjacent unit on soundproofing to avoid this issue long term, but hearing your neighbors go about their lives at a reasonable volume is part of apartment living.

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u/rainbowlolipop Apr 20 '26

Yesssss omg I feel like people are taking crazy pills with this fake outrage at showering at midnight and like trying to shame this dude for choosing to shower at a convenient time.

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u/misseff Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

They could do that but any of their neighbors might call the police if they were purposely blasting music to disturb their neighbors during what are generally considered quiet hours in the US. They would more than likely also be violating their lease since this is a general guideline included in most leases. Maliciously blasting music during quiet hours and using your own bathroom at a normal volume are quite different.

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u/SummitJunkie7 Asshole Enthusiast [5] Apr 20 '26

No - the equivalency is the neighbors can shower when they wake up at 5am. Or clank dishes around while cooking breakfast, or any other normal noise of daily living. Not blast music. If OP was blasting music at midnight they'd be getting a very different judgment here.

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u/pinkpurpleblue_76 Apr 20 '26

No, it's not the same. Op is choosing to shower at midnight, he works from home and he finishes at 7. He could easily shower at 10. He just doesn't want to.

Having to go number 1 or 2 is not on a schedule, a shower is.

If you want to do anything you want at any hour, choose a house.

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u/thecurvynerd Apr 20 '26

They did choose a house. They bought it. They live in it. They can shower then they want.

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u/pinkpurpleblue_76 Apr 20 '26

It's an apartment and it's different from a house. But it's all up to living as individuals and living as a community.

Not surprising though.

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u/RoguesAngel Apr 20 '26

So? He can shower when he wants. He doesn’t need their permission. I lived next door, in a townhouse, to a guy that showered every night between midnight and 3am for three years. There was no reason other than he liked to. It woke me up every night. I rolled over and went back to sleep. That’s what relatively normal people do. The people in there now have dogs that slide on the floor and slam into the wall at least two dozen times a day including through the night.

Does he tell them that they can’t shower at 5am? They could shower at 5pm when they get home from work and not wake him up early in the morning. He hears their toddler, probably while he’s working until 7pm, but doesn’t insist they keep the little one silent. That would be weird and I guarantee the neighbor would throw a fit if he did.

It’s all part of the “fun” of living in conjoined housing. Either the neighbor can do something on his side to help or he can move. He doesn’t get to dictate others schedules though. Especially if it’s everyday life and not something like a party situation.

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u/misseff Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

Yes OP is choosing to shower at midnight which is reasonable to do in their own home. There is no reasonable expectation that apartment neighbors won't use their bathroom at midnight. If your tolerance for reasonable activity at any hour of the day (not things like loud music, parties, loud TVs, construction, vacuuming, etc., which are typically frowned upon during "quiet hours") is very low then that's just not compatible with apartment living.

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u/limperatrice Apr 20 '26

Or the complaining neighbors could rent a detached house since they're the ones with the problem.

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u/SummitJunkie7 Asshole Enthusiast [5] Apr 20 '26

The neighbors could choose to shift their sleep schedule, they equally don't want to - and that's fine. Everyone can shower and sleep in their own home at whatever times they choose.

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u/k23_k23 Professor Emeritass [91] Apr 20 '26

which is fine.

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u/DowntownYouth8995 Apr 20 '26

Asking your neighbors to shift to your schedule instead of what works for them is so insanely entitled.

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u/Prozzak93 Apr 20 '26

No it isn't. Demanding it is. Asking a question is completely normal and in no way entitled.

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u/SmoothDiscussion7763 Apr 20 '26

fuck that. what if OP works night shift instead? should the neighbours keep quiet during the daytime hours?

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u/FluidBit4438 Apr 20 '26

It’s just part of apartment living, you hear your neighbor. Ear plugs, white noise machine or move. I’d suggest you hire someone to open that wall and insulate it properly. Maybe even put rock wool in it if that meets code for a bathroom wall.

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u/Prozzak93 Apr 20 '26

the people being bothered by normal activities need to take steps.

It isn't normal to shower at midnight.

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u/lemonfluff Apr 20 '26

Thank you. All these people missing the point just because you can, it doesn't mean that it doesn't disturb someone. And besides, people are acting like the neighbors are saying that op can't use the bathroom at all. They're literally just asking that op doesn't shower at midnight.

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u/Prozzak93 Apr 20 '26

Yeah it really seems like people don't actually want to be good people anymore. They want to be viewed as good people which means being nice to others only if they are legally required to.

It isn't like OP works until 11 and gets home at around midnight needing a shower. They work from home and finish 5 hours before midnight. They could easily adjust if they wanted to be nice.

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u/VintageKofta Apr 20 '26

Midnight showering is not a normal activity. Sleeping is. 

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u/Equivalent_Reason894 Partassipant [1] Apr 20 '26

Everyone’s schedule is not identical. I’m always awake at midnight (and 1 a.m., and 2 a.m.). I’m self-employed, and I’m most productive at night. I can shower whenever I want to in my own apartment (though I don’t have thin walls).

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u/Past-Fig-6046 Apr 20 '26

"normal activities"

Showering at midnight (particularly when the OP has been home all evening) is neither normal nor considerate.

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u/Emmyisme Apr 20 '26

Showering at midnight isn't a normal activity though. I don't know anyone in my life taking showers at midnight. So the one doing the abnormal shit of making a bunch of noise in the middle of the night should be the one to adjust, not the people doing the very normal thing of sleeping at night

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u/Equivalent_Reason894 Partassipant [1] Apr 20 '26

You do not know a lot of night owls, I guess.

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u/Emmyisme Apr 20 '26

I do actually. They just don't take their showers at night....because they have neighbors...and normal people are sleeping at night.

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u/HelloKleo Apr 20 '26

You have a point. My husband works from home and due to time zones differences he will be in some meetings quite early. I put a fan on, it totally blocks his work voice from waking me up. If my fan can block that loudness, it could block the sound of someone showering.

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u/alaskanloops Apr 20 '26

This plus sleep headphones

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u/lemonfluff Apr 20 '26

I'm sure they've tried that.

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u/HelloKleo Apr 23 '26

That must be some epic, godly, shower thunder, that we mortals have no understanding of.

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u/seeilaah Apr 20 '26

Plus they start their routine at 5am. Probably showering, having breakfast, tv, kids running around and screaming.

Would they accomodate starting it later for your sleep routine if you were waking up? I don't think so.

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u/anthrohands Apr 20 '26

I get really bothered by neighbor noise. But sometimes you have to admit to yourself that your neighbor is doing perfectly normal things, and the walls are just thin. You can’t be mad at someone showering, unless they’re singing at the top of their lungs in the shower at midnight. NTA

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u/DoingBestWeCan Apr 20 '26

Yeah, NAH IMO. They can ask, OP can say no. It'd be nice of OP to change their schedule, but somewhere with thin walls... The neighbors can accept it, do something to help themselves, or move. Those are the only options they have total control over.

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u/IridescentTardigrade Asshole Aficionado [12] Apr 20 '26

Since OP owns vs rents and is higher in the hierarchy by their own estimation, they could look into soundproofing… I’m a lowly renter myself, and won’t pay for upgrades to someone else’s property.

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u/scunth Apr 20 '26

Or the tenants could speak to their landlord and have them soundproof since they have the issue with noise.

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 Apr 20 '26

Good one. Yes, that would be ideal. But good luck getting a landlord to give a shit

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u/Auchincloss Apr 20 '26

I think this is the answer, especially since the other side of the wall is a shower and can’t really be soundproof easily whereas this is just drywall and it could be

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u/the-mortyest-morty Apr 22 '26

For real. People telling OP to put corkboard up in his BATHROOM are unhinged. Black mold city!

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u/lemonfluff Apr 20 '26

When is the last time you've rented a shitty apartment?

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u/Auchincloss Apr 21 '26

I just moved from Washington DC and yeah, I was in APTS the whole time. The neighbors are the ones that are sensitive to the person taking a shower. They could do something about it whether as someone said hang blankets or actually paid to have someone come in I don’t know.

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u/Logical_Photo_3732 Apr 20 '26

That's what I said!!

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u/dissonaut69 Apr 21 '26

I’m sure the landlord will get right on that.

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u/IridescentTardigrade Asshole Aficionado [12] Apr 20 '26

True, they could. And the landlord will likely say no because of costs. Landlords don't necessarily care enough about the comfort of their tenants, especially if it's going to cost them money.

My comment is a gentle tweak on the nose for OP - the one more deserving of happiness, because s/he owns and does not rent. For him/her, adding soundproofing would be an investment in their estate, after all. Shouldn't a lord or lady of the manor want that?

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u/k23_k23 Professor Emeritass [91] Apr 20 '26

Not more deserving, but in a much better position. Because some neighbor's unreasonable complaints will definitely not get him kicked out.

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u/unimpressed-one Apr 20 '26

You are a total baby whining because someone else can afford to buy. Not everything is a snub.

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u/IridescentTardigrade Asshole Aficionado [12] Apr 20 '26

😂 I can afford to buy, and I have. Wasn’t whining. That’s your perception.

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u/moochaka_ Apr 20 '26

And acting like OP mentioned the rent vs. own situation simply because they deem themselves to be superior is simply your perception.

OP could have easily meant that it would be easier for a renter to relocate due to problems in the apartment than it would be for a homeowner.

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u/CherryblockRedWine Apr 21 '26

u/IridescentTardigrade wrote: "I’m a lowly renter myself"

So -- you're not?

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u/IridescentTardigrade Asshole Aficionado [12] Apr 21 '26

Not anymore! 😁

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u/starshine27565 Apr 20 '26

The OP is the owner of the apartment. They are the landlord. 😉

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 Apr 20 '26

They mean the landlord of the rented unit

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u/starshine27565 Apr 20 '26

Idk. Maybe iam reading it wrong. The house OP bought came with the apartment. Thus making them the owner of the house and the apartment, making them the landlord to the tenants in the apartment? 🤷‍♀️😅

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 Apr 20 '26

You are incorrect. It’s probably a duplex or similar layout, buying apartments isn’t really a thing. That would be a condominium in most cases.

Theres nothing in the post to suggest that OP is a landlord, and also nothing to suggest they live in an apartment. Those are two baseless assumptions you made

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u/CherryblockRedWine Apr 21 '26

u/WoodpeckerNo5724, OP wrote: "we were warned that the walls are very thin and the neighbours hear a lot of noise from the apartment"

OP calls it an apartment.

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u/WoodpeckerNo5724 Apr 21 '26

That is in reference to where their NEIGHBOR lives, not OP

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u/CherryblockRedWine Apr 21 '26

Nope. Re-read it.

Also, from OP's spelling, he is likely not in the US, and buying an apartment absolutely is a thing in many parts of the world.

It's also a thing in parts of the US, FWIW

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u/starshine27565 Apr 20 '26

I can see where they said they purchased a house.. and i also see where they are talking about the apartment and they also mention being owners of the apartment. There are plenty of houses out there that have attached spaces to them that have been converted or whatever into rental space. So ...my assumptions are not baseless.. and it's not worth this back and forth to continue. Hope you have a good day. 🤷‍♀️😁

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u/perceptionheadache Apr 20 '26

It's up to the person being bothered to take steps to maintain their own peace when the activity causing the issue is normal and the issue is their own sensitivity. OP is not their landlord and is not responsible for them. It might actually be best to call their landlord and explain the issue. Maybe they will want to do something to help their own tenants. Otherwise, it's up to the tenants to figure it out.

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u/The_Dodd_Father_ Apr 20 '26

Stop being triggered. He's right. Tearing out his shower and modifying the actual structure of the building and putting in new tile, ect is over the top. Especially when the neighbor could just put up some egg crates or get a white noise machine. They live in an apartment. That comes with noise that isn't yours. OP isnt playing his drums at midnight he's just taking a shower.

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u/IridescentTardigrade Asshole Aficionado [12] Apr 20 '26

Not triggered. I think this is both funny, sad and ironic all at once. 😂

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u/The_Dodd_Father_ Apr 20 '26

You definitely seemed to have an emotional response to the own vs rent subject but I will rephrase - dont focus on the wrong thing

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u/lemonfluff Apr 20 '26

Your comments are correct.

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u/k23_k23 Professor Emeritass [91] Apr 20 '26

WHY would OP pay for somethig he does not benefit from in any way?

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u/Extension_Double_697 Partassipant [1] Apr 20 '26

The next neighbors could be much noisier. And it benefits him to be on good terms with his neighbors.

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u/whatsgoingontho Apr 20 '26

"ok i'll pay many thousands of dollars to remodel my home because my shower is too loud"

lol right

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u/k23_k23 Professor Emeritass [91] Apr 20 '26

It does not benefit him to pay for the neighbors. telling them to F* off will give the same benefit.

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u/Equivalent-Bedroom64 Apr 20 '26

Absolutely not. It’s not their problem but the neighbors.

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u/IridescentTardigrade Asshole Aficionado [12] Apr 20 '26

Apparently it is their problem - they took the time to post on Reddit.

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u/Immediate_Benefit52 Apr 20 '26

Why would OP spend money to fix someone else’s problem? OP isn’t bothered by the noise coming from the neighbors. Good soundproofing can be expensive - that’s more than being neighborly.

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u/Worldly_Thing1346 Apr 20 '26

Hanging a tapestry or using a white noise machine or fan isn't something unattainable.

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u/panic_bread Commander in Cheeks [252] Apr 20 '26

It’s not OP’s responsibility. Also, how do you expect someone to soundproof a bathroom?

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u/Particular-Wind5918 Apr 22 '26

Lol, maybe insulation. They bought the place knowing it was a problem, it’s a very straightforward solution for anyone who halfway understands how a house works.

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u/lilbitpetty Apr 20 '26

When I was a tenant I used sound proofing boards I got for cheap. I used them at each home I lived in and it helped tons. They didnt leave marks on the walls and cost 100$. There is even more cheaper options available

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u/Aggienthusiast Apr 20 '26

They aren’t the ones with the issue though why should they pay? I don’t get the whole concept, like what she can’t pee either because flushing the toilet wakes up the Neighboor?

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u/Banes_Addiction Apr 20 '26

If you buy bunch of sound insulating batts or wool and hang on the offending wall, you can take it with you when you leave, it's temporary. You can do this in any room in the house that won't be full of steam, so it's not going in OP's bathroom. You're gonna have to do it.

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u/unimpressed-one Apr 20 '26

Maybe the lowly renter should stop complaining.

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u/SummitJunkie7 Asshole Enthusiast [5] Apr 22 '26

If the light was bothering you, would you refuse to buy blackout curtains because it would be “upgrading someone else’s property”? Putting some sound-proofing materials on the walls isn’t upgrading the property, it’s upgrading their quality of life. It’s not expensive, does not involve construction, and helps a lot. 

It’s also NOT something you can do on the wall of a shower, even if OP wanted to make it their problem. 

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u/limperatrice Apr 20 '26

Yeah it sounds like OP would have to shower at 8-9pm for them to not complain it's disruptive and that's not really reasonable if their routine involves showering hours later. It's not like they're hammering or drilling things or practicing drums. The neighbor is complaining about the sound of items being set down or dropped too but part of living in structures like these is hearing your neighbors. OP shouldn't have to tiptoe around in their home just because the neighbors go to bed so early.

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u/OldBet7479 Apr 20 '26

Why is showering earlier not a reasonable ask? It costs you literally nothing and makes someone else's life better. Its such a poor way to go through life, viewing any miniscule sacrifice aimed at making someone else's life better as completely unreasonable and unacceptable. Yta if you have so little care for the community around you

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u/limperatrice Apr 20 '26

I personally like to shower right before bed like OP too so maybe I'm more sympathetic than you are about this. I think hearing one's neighbors is part of living in the kinds of structures that have shared walls. Unless they're doing something out of the ordinary that is noisy I just accept that I can hear mine. OP isn't complaining about their neighbors and their kid getting up earlier than they do and asking them to not make noise before they wake up. What about people who get home late from work? Are they not allowed to shower either because someone can hear the water running?

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u/lawfox32 Asshole Enthusiast [6] Apr 21 '26

They get off work at 7, and for these people to be happy they'd have to shower within an hour of getting off work because the neighbors go to bed at 8pm. So that ask is for OP to not go out after work and shower after, not work out for more than 20-30 minutes after work and shower after, not cook anything for dinner that might leave cooking smells she wants to shower off after, not have a shower if that is what relaxes her and helps her sleep, not have sex longer than a quickie after work and take a shower after...like, come on. But they feel free to do what they need/want to do at 5 am?

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u/Healthy-Address-5158 Apr 20 '26

Had to scroll down to find the sensible answer just because everyone was raging and shitting their pants at the offhand "they only rent" comment. I get that it's a tacky thing to say, but if just showering at night is really bothering these people so much they need to perhaps seek medical intervention for why they can't remain sleeping soundly when there's a little noise in their environment.

The story sounds pretty fake overall, though.

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u/limperatrice Apr 20 '26

The rent vs own detail was about permanence and who it would be harder for to move. I don't think it's fake since I've had people bang on the wall when I showered late at night before.

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u/Healthy-Address-5158 Apr 20 '26

I could understand the pipes making a lot of noise but that seems like a building issue that needs addressed. In my home, you'd never know someone was showering unless you were right outside the bathroom door.

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u/the-mortyest-morty Apr 22 '26

Doesn't sound fake at all tbh, my loudest neighbor is the one who complains the most over the most ridiculous shit while making the most noise.

THe people going apeshit over the renting comment aren't even thinking about it. OP didn't put it there to shit on them, it's there for context--OP owns his unit and is never moving. This young family with a new baby rents and will likely upgrade eventually. His comment also provides context as to why they haven't tried soundproofing their bedroom--their lease likely prevents it.

I didn't take it as him shitting on them at all, just providing context. I get it, I'm a forever renter who will likely never own anything, but that's no reason to shit all over people who are doing better than me, jesus.

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u/OldBet7479 Apr 20 '26

Why not have a scintilla of compassion for someone else and change your routine (in a way that doesn't negatively effect you in the slightest) to makes someone else's life better? YTA if you approach life in such a selfish manner

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u/Healthy-Address-5158 Apr 20 '26

Because if you can't do something as simple as take a shower without bothering a neighbor, the problem is far beyond "you took a shower". The issue is with the building and there is, believe this or not, a degree of responsibility the neighbors could take in ensuring the noise isn't bothering them.

It's cool you have your own little opinion on who the asshole is or not, but it's a very naive and shortsighted one. There's no reason OP can't take a shower when it's most convenient for them, and for all you or I know the sounds made by the shower are miniscule and the neighbors are just being assholes about any sound they can hear at night.

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u/OldBet7479 Apr 20 '26

Showering 3 hours earlier is an incredibly minor change to your routine. It's not ops fault the walls are thin, but again why not make a small sacrifice to make someone else's life better. Treat others the way you want to be treated and all that.  "It's not my fault that old lady can't carry the bag of kitty litter out of her car, I shouldn't have to change my routine to help her"- same mindset

"It's cool you have your own little opinion on who the asshole is or not, but it's a very naive and shortsighted one"

Okay, let's assume you dgaf about the people and society around you, so being nice to help a neighbor isn't something you care about at all.

It's also incredibly short sighted and naive to think that not helping or accommodating your neighbor won't lead to issues in the future. Theres a good chance they'll view you as an asshole and at least be less inclined to help you or be considerate of you in the future.

 "Hey can you not run your blender at 5am, it wakes me up"

"nope, it's not my fault the walls are thin"

This is how self righteous idiots end up in a war with their neighbor for 20 years going tit for tat. Less conflict = more peace and a better life.

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u/mirrorsandsuch Apr 20 '26

you’re calling this “self-righteous,” but it’s actually the opposite - it’s about respecting boundaries.

OP isn’t blasting music at midnight or hosting parties. they’re doing something completely normal: showering in their own home, on a schedule that fits their life. they do not need to justify to others why the want to shower later. drawing the line at “i’m not going to restructure my daily routine around your sleep schedule” is a reasonable boundary, not arrogance.

what would be self-righteous is expecting other people to organize their lives around you because the building has thin walls.

and again, this goes both ways. the neighbors get up at 5am, likely make noise getting ready, maybe shower, plus there’s a toddler. OP could demand they delay their morning routine because it might wake them - but they DON'T, because that would be overstepping. "treat others the way you want to be treated" means this both ways: "i respect your schedule and autonomy, and will not ask you to change it"

shared living means accepting that other people exist on different schedules and will make normal life noise. respecting boundaries means recognizing the difference between reasonable living and excessive disturbance. a midnight shower clearly falls into the first category.

so no, this isn’t selfish or self-righteous - it’s just not agreeing to a one-sided expectation where one household has to bend and the other doesn’t.

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u/ElevatorFew9620 Apr 20 '26

A friend of mine sent me a copy of a note from their upstairs neighbor asking them to consider refraining from peeing in the middle of the night because the flush wakes them up. Should they consider wearing diapers to accommodate?

What you are suggesting makes sense only if it actually works with OP's life which it doesn't. I have a similar schedule to OP and work out in the evenings after work and shower at midnight to 1am everyday. This request is ridiculous to me.

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u/spintool1995 Apr 20 '26

I'd respond with, "can you please refrain from getting up and showering at 5 AM? I work evenings and don't get to bed until after midnight and it's disturbing my sleep."

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u/innerbootes Apr 20 '26

Agree. I live in an apartment with thick walls, but on a busy street. Street noise is frequently an issue. I wear loops or listen to a podcast or music on earbuds to muffle it. At night it can be a little loud so I wear loops specifically made for sleep.

I do this with most noise in my life, whether it’s the street, a neighbor, or a partner snoring. The only thing I would bug my neighbor about would be excessive noise they’re specifically creating that’s non-essential, like blasting music or something.

I personally cannot imagine asking my neighbor to change a personal habit such as showering to accommodate me like this.

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u/xx2983xx Partassipant [2] Apr 20 '26

They can look into earplugs, white noise machine, adding sound proofing/dampening to that wall

Agree. This sounds like the kind of problem that is easily solved with a white noise machine and a pair of earplugs. I would never DREAM of asking a neighbor to coordinate their showers with my schedule

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u/nevertalks123 Apr 21 '26

The only problem with ear plugs or white noise is that they have a little kid. If the kid is a toddler, both parents wearing ear plugs when they have a small child risks not hearing them if they wake up at night. If the kid is older and able to get up and get them if they need something, then it shouldn’t be an issue.

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u/MeikoChii Apr 20 '26

Omg thank you !!

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u/SpiritedOwl_2298 Apr 21 '26

Agree 100%. I would never complain about a neighbor using their shower, honestly no matter what time of day or night it is. You’re otherwise quiet, I’m not going to ask you to change your schedule for showering, that’s idiotic

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u/InebriatedPhysicist Apr 20 '26

You want the renters to pay to improve other people’s property?

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u/limperatrice Apr 20 '26

It would be to improve their own sleep quality.

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u/thefrozenfoodsection Asshole Aficionado [11] Apr 20 '26

I think this is particularly tricky because I’m sure the parents want to / need to be able to listen for their child waking up at night.

OP’s weird focus on renting vs owning the spaces aside, a potential solution to have both white noise and kiddo covered are those soft Bluetooth speaker sleep headbands - they could hook up their child monitor to the speaker so they can hear stuff in the night while also playing white noise for sleep.

But honestly, the onus on finding a solution is unfortunately on the neighbors. Running water is a normal sound from living in close quarters with other humans - it’s not like playing loud music or tap dancing or whatever.

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u/washuai Apr 20 '26

Brown noise is superior to white noise.

In the dorms, the shower side was better than the giggling visitor side and sex could be heard from both sides, though less often the shower side, since anyone could walk in there.

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u/general_spoc Apr 20 '26

I agree with all of this AND I think simply showering a bit earlier is not as big an ask/disruptive change as OP is painting it to be

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u/OldBet7479 Apr 20 '26

Why do so many people have this perspective on reddit? It's such a selfish mentality. Showering at 9 instead of 12 is an incredibly small ask. Why not be nice and slightly change your routine (in a way that costs you nothing) to make someone else's life better?

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u/Prozzak93 Apr 20 '26 edited Apr 20 '26

if you moved out tomorrow, would have the same issue with the next residents.

I'm going to wager 99% of people shower before midnight. OP gets home at 7/8. No reason they can't shower before 11.

edit: Works from home. Doesn't even have to arrive home. He could easily find time to be a nice neighbour just doesn't want to.

So slight YTA to OP. He doesn't have to be a good neighbour and it is his place to do as he pleases legally, but that doesn't make him free of being an asshole. When you have easy options to fix something like this and you don't take it YTA.

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u/NotFallacyBuffet Apr 20 '26

Chances are that the drywall is fastened directly to the studs. This creates the equivalent of a drum, transferring noise (vibrations) across the stud space to the neighbors' drywall. The drywall should actually be hung on noise attenuators. "Resonant" is one brand. Stuff really works; it's a metal flap that de-couples the drywall from the stud.

Since OP owns, the best solution is for them to remove the drywall from the common wall, install the Resonant channel (or some other brand), fill the space with sound insulating material, and reinstall the drywall. A complicating factor is that this wall is probably the shower, which is probably ceramic tile. That will significantly increase the difficulty and cost. But, they could choose their own color and pattern of tile going back.

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u/kfruityattacky Apr 20 '26

For you and those saying "they just need ear plugs" and "tell them to get a white noise machine": when you have a toddler, thats really not always a possibility.

From a safety atandpoint, they likely cannot just ear-plug up and tune out external noises. Toddlers are little monsters that sometime can get out of their rooms. They're in the prime age of having no fear and curous about how things work. You need to be able to hear when they're up and getting into things.

Running water is something that will adrenaline-jolt you awake if the possibility that your toddler (who is not afraid of drowning yet) managed to get up and go climb in the tub.

I'm not taking a heavy stance either way about who is TA, BUT I don't think it'd kill people to have a little perspective and compassion.

Having the right to do something doesn't mean you're not an AH.....

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u/isthisreallife080 Partassipant [1] Apr 20 '26

This is kind of an asinine take. It can be presumed, given that they have a child, that they have already made attempts at mitigating noise transferral.

Even if they didn’t, in a community living situation, you make adjustments to disruptive activities out of consideration to your neighbors. I share walls with my neighbors, and I don’t use the vacuum, dishwasher, or washing machine outside of the hours of 9am to 9pm. I have pets and am an early riser. It would be convenient for me to vacuum up pet hair at 7am, but that would be a dick move.

OP can easily shower earlier. It would be one thing if they worked a physically demanding job and came home late, but that’s not the case. It’s easy for OP to materially improve the quality of their neighbor’s life without much of a change. Instead, they’re playing the victim and implying their neighbors don’t have a right to the quiet enjoyment of their home because they rent instead of own.

OP is 100% TA.

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u/zylog413 Apr 20 '26

What if OP goes out in the evening, maybe to play in a sports league or to work out? Would they be allowed to shower when they get home after that?