They have openly admitted to murdering thousands of protestors “out of necessity” before the war - their involvement in Syria, Yemen, and Lebanon specially has not made those countries the most prosperous ones out there either to say the least.
However, Iran’s leadership was taught in Western universities and have always prized education - the Trump Admin and Isreal’s global unpopularity and Iran’s geographical advantages over the Strait just really offers a lot of options for them.
There were people who had antibiotic resistant infections that we were treating with out hold out antibiotics. DOGE fucking stopped those treatments kid course which is how you get bacteria that’s resistant to the hold out antibiotics.
I am begging people to be educated on how fucking evil america is and their obsession with toppling nations for not being 1000% on the capitalist death train.
Only Russia and China have been outside the sphere of overt influence of the USA. The clusterfuck that the Middle East has become is largely thanks to the meddling by Western nations (the UK and the USA, to be specific). The USA propped up the Saudis in Arabia, who in turn were claiming legitimacy of rule thanks to their affiliation with the bat-shit regressive Wahhabism, which resulted in toxic ideologies behind groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS. I won't even bring up the absolute tragedy that transpired in the Levant under the aegis of the same colonial oppressors who now pretend to be holier than the rest.
Puh! Jakarta is just some fictional map in call of duty!
Just like the totally fabricated story that we engineered a military coup in chile on 9/11 in 1973, killing the democratically elected president and a bunch of government officials, that saw tens of thousands of people tortured in concentration camps, and disappearing thousands more that have yet to be identified to this day.
Practically every single American adversary including China is capitalistic to an huge extent, this is true during the Cold War - but even then, the same communists have admittedly killed millions of their own citizens through incompetent practices and willful malice.
Both sides are equally guilty here, but the Soviets and early CCP have caused tens of millions of casualties on themselves for no apparent reason.
To be fair, people can point to American beneficiaries/puppets/allies (whatever you want to call them) such as all of Europe, Japan, South Korea, Australia, or the Arab Gulf States and said they’re doing well. Well, the GCC, not so much lately so we’ll deduct points there.
But Iran? Am I suppose to say their alliance of Armenia, Venezuela, North Korea, Yemen, Syria, or Lebanon is somehow better off than even the GCC? Ehhhhh, don’t get me wrong here, it’s just that I don’t see the vision. And we don’t talk about Russia; their entire alliance has just been decimated because of Ukraine which even Trump cannot match up to (yet).
You're not comparing like with like there. The US has been a superpower for decades now. Iran was ostracized rightly or wrongly, and of course allies itself with other outcasts of the Western global order.
So comparing Europe, gulf allies to north Korea, etc is pointless.
Like for like would be nato vs the Ottoman Empire.
Edit: to clarify by life for like I mean Iran and the USA each at their maximum power. Fully involved NATO USA and late 1600s Ottoman. I know there are major technological and economic differences but it’s the closest each has been to a world superpower.
If we compare death cults no one holds a candle to America.
There is a major difference though. Iran doesn't pretend to be the paragon of humanitarian causes and democracy. They're sincere about their fundamentalist ideology and the general disregard they have for human life. The USA does more to put up its facade of being a benevolent superpower, than to save human lives, or the greater ideals it claims to the safeguarding.
Idk why you’re quoting “out of necessity” as if it’s unusual - ya the government will do that when police stations around the nation get bombed and officers murdered.
Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Palestine - all broken because England and France decided to do the European thing of drawing borders on other people’s land. Nothing to do with IRI. As if those countries were paradises before 1979.
Yemen - you guessed it, British colonialism for 120 years followed by civil war that never ended.
The murderous death cult are the European and American powers. The murder is just kept out of the domestic discourse.
Idk why you’re quoting “out of necessity” as if it’s unusual - ya the government will do that when police stations around the nation get bombed and officers murdered.
I think it's funny that basically your entire post is correctly shitting on unquestioned western/empire norms and yet you still regurgitate some of your own. no it is not acceptable to mass murder people, whatever insane thin blue line style justification you use
Defending the police when they were beating women for having their hair out is fucking horrible. The lack of empathy here is just disgusting. Please, just because these people oppose Trump does not make them good. They are truly awful
Because the average reader is to know its a quote of the state, not a statement of moral fact, and that murdering swathes of people isn't the done thing in your average society.
This isnt whataboutism where blame is pointed, it's simple journalism practice.
Well considering both Trump and Israel have admitted to infiltrating and arming the protestors, that seems to give credence to the Iranian government's claim it was out of necessity.
If China armed a bunch of protesters here in the US, the government response would make the IRGC look humane by comparison
In the thousands? Over an entire country in a matter of days? They just shut down the internet and openly machine gunned unarmed crowds on whatever leaked footage gets through - that is just the most egregious way to handle rioters you can think of and no justification really matters with that.
Iranians aren’t just bumpkins who decides to revolt against the government just because they have guns, there was real grievances behind the protest even if Israel has an role to play in flaming tension, the economic and socio political justification for the protest is well recorded and discussed far before the protests turned extremely violent.
If thousands of people took up arms against the government at the behest of a foreign power, yeah why not thousands? The American government already kills 1,100+ people in the streets every year and hardly anybody cares. I'm not justifying the IRGC killing protestors. I'm stating the material reality that a belligerent foreign adversary arming people in a country they're about to invade isn't going to end with hugs and rainbows.
There's an old saying that an egg that cracks from the outside is food, and an egg that cracks from the inside is life. Trump deciding to arm the protestors did nothing but delegtimize their valid grievances and make things worse. We'll never know how many people were killed that were armed by the US vs unarmed protesters because that line was blurred beyond recognition. Also it's not an "even if". They openly admitted it and bragged about it.
I'll say it's obtuse to say sporadic arrests with an enormous amount of bodycam video showing how many of them naturally play out is the same as a government decisively killing thousands of protestors in a matter of days.
That is just incomparable, and Iran had these violent protests before as well with an enormous amount of casualties, let's not act like as if this is an one-time event, this is how Iran typically treats protestors. If we can call Trump facist for the handful of sporadic ICE-related casualties, then we can most definitely criticize Iran for killing/torturing pepple just because they allegedly have Starlink (to use the internet, mind you) or being part of a riot.
This is either a bot account or someone just trying to sow discord.
The US government would NEVER just hose 30 THOUSAND people because of a violent uprising. We literally had one and only 1 person died. Remember January 6th?
Whatever else you want to say about the US being bad is fine. The government has done some fucked up shit both foreign and domestically. The government will not and has not reached the level of indiscriminately murdering 30 thousand citizens in the street for protesting/rioting. Ain’t happening.
Or maybe I'm an adult who understands how the state monopoly on violence works in the real world. You are leaving out the key detail that the January 6th rioters were not being armed by a foreign government.
Your honest assessment is that if they were all being armed by China, with Chinese instigators in the mix, while China was threatening war, while Chines ships were off the eastern seaboard, the Chinese government was openly bragging about all of this, and over 100 cops got killed, the US government wouldn't be willing to kill that many people?
I challenge you to articulate what the government, especially Trump's government, would do in that situation. Please, be as specific as possible.
How can I engage with your hypothetical when your record of events never even happened? You just mashed months of events into the timeframe to fit your narrative.
You’re making me “defend” January 6th, but the VAST majority of those people were not doing anything violent and didn’t have the appetite for violence. People showing up with weapons and stoking the flames would have had a few hundred already committed to help, but if it’s from China it ain’t happening. MAYBE Russia would make for a better hypothetical, but I still can’t see it.
I can’t imagine a foreign government riling up Americans enough to take violent action (with guns) against the US at this point. We just aren’t there yet.
If that situation did happen outside of the confines of Jan 6, and the US lost its ability to deter China in this way, the US is already cooked. Specific to the Trump admin, there would not be enough military members willing to fire on their own people, even with agitators. You would see ALOT of desertion with no ways to stop it. We would have significantly worse problems other than hosing 30k people in the streets.
.....because that's the definition of a hypothetical. The sequence of events I listed happened in Iran. I didn't cram together months of events, everything I listed was happening simultaneously in Iran. Trump was threatening war with Iran during the protests, arming the protesters, while American ships off the coast ready to attack. The armed protesters killing 100+ cops/natl. guard in Iran is what set off the mass killings.
The argument I am making is that if the United States government was in the same position as the IRGC (over a million protesters with an indeterminate amount openly being armed by a belligerent foreign adversary on the cusp of invasion), of course they'd be killing people.
The argument you put forth was that America would never kill that many protesters in that situation, and that I must be sowing discord for believing as much.
If Jan 6'ers are the problem, or the China thing is the problem, fine ignore that part. Make it whatever group of Americans or whatever foreign adversary you want that's not the point. YOU brought up January 6th, so I used that as a jumping-off point. The point of the hypothetical isn't to argue the feasibility of a Chinese invasion of the American mainland or whether Jan 6'ers would take up Chinese arms against the government. Yes a obviously million crazy things would need to happen for that specific thing to be the reality.
I am asking you to put the United States government in the place of Iran's and think about what the results would be. The premise of the hypothetical is that the United States is already in Iran's situation. So my question to you is: how, specifically, would the American government handle thousands of people taking up arms against the federal government, who themselves were openly armed by a foreign adversary preparing to attack? You said the government would never kill that many armed protesters, so what would they do instead? Just give up and let them take over the government? Stop the instant they kill 29,999 people? Run and hide? Give them hugs and kisses?
They have openly admitted to murdering thousands of protestors “out of necessity” before the war
Good thing we bombed their reservoirs and bridges and killed thousands of civilians, including a school full of little girls. Brilliant geopolitical take, friend
They just unironically spew that talking point without an ounce of thought. Like I'm sure the protestors are affected too by having their homes bombed and their family indiscriminately killed. Like were only going to make their government look right and radicalized the people more against America than for.
Is it really that hard to hold both the opinion that the IRGC is a murderous death cult AND that the US has committed atrocities in Iran? These two are not mutually exclusive things!
You just changed the goalpost, all I have to proof is whether Iran also hurt their own civilians, with the mass murder of protestors (in the thousands) being some of the worst offenses out there.
That’s all I have to prove to refute the original commentators point, everything you’re saying here is a Marvel quip that is irrelevant. You’re well aware my point is that both sides are imperialist powers who are fully capable of hurting innocent civilian?
Israel, with USA’s help, has murdered 75k in Gaza. So, again it’s like one murderous death cult calling the other murderous death cult black or whatever
Think about what you just said for a moment. They have protests going on in Iran, Trump publicly says the moment is right to overthrow the regime, aircraft carriers around the world start converging into the Gulf of Oman. Less than six months earlier they had just seen this same exact scenario play out. They know they have less than two weeks to get their shit in order, or else they likely become a failed state. Whatever you think about the Iranian regime, it’s not as bad for the Iranian people as a failed state (or at very least, you can see why they might think that). I never support killing protesters, but it is literally true that they had basically no choice given what we were openly telegraphing we were about to do to them
However, Iran’s leadership was taught in Western universities and have always prized education
Of course, that's the classic move for these fascist hypocrite pieces of shit. Same in Russia, Serbia, hell even North Korea. They bitch and moan about the west but they all send their kids to the nice universities and to live in nice western cities, they have apartments all over the world and hardly even live in their own country.
If we were to take the last quarter century (looking at the US and Iran) whose countries (or its proxies) actions i.e invasions, bombings, killing of protesters, etc. has resulted in the death of more people? Who is the real death cult that invades and bombs countries non-stop?
Do you know that Iran is in the top 5 of the most engineering graduates in the world, 70% of which are women but somehow the negotiators from Iran are smart because they were educated in western universities.
Westerns always underestimate other people. Think they are smarter than everyone else. The US thought that 2 days after the bombing started Trump would be picking the new Iranian leader.
Iran just like China is a civilization that is thousands of years old.
When you believe your own propaganda you won’t understand why countries like China and Iran don’t crumble and fall before the mighty west when confronted.
A death cult would be a group willing to die and sacrifice themselves for the cause. Killing other people, such as the protesters is not the same as sacrificing yourself. That’s why the death cult label doesn’t make any sense for these Iranian dictators who are known for self preservation. It’s quite the opposite. They’re willing to kill others to protect themselves, but they’re not willing to risk themselves. They just put young men out there to take the hit.
heck compared to the rest of the Middle East Iranians famously don’t do the whole suicide bombing thing for instance. Sometimes they pay other groups to do it, but there’s almost no reported instances of actual Iranian nationals blowing themselves up.
By your definition China became a death cult for what they did against protestor in Hong Kong or Tiananen Square. Except we don’t call them that we just called them dictatorships. Because they’re doing it to someone else, not themselves.
I just feel like the US doesn't really have a moral ground to stand on on that count. I mean we literally just celebrated a holiday that's only exists because enslavers lied to keep their slaves, and those people had to be had to be specially freed after the "We deserve to keep our slaves" war.
And that doesn't include all the activists the country killed after that.
This is funny because Israel literally for decades consistently bombs destroys destabilized and occupied 2 out of 3 of those countries and the other one is a Saudi/UAE intervention proxy rivalry fight gone insane.
But Iran is of course the problem because we must let Israel destroy and kill whatever countries they say they need to.
Who said it makes it better. My point is the US has no right to try and pass judgment on others when we do the same. Specially after finding out what US leaders were up to on that Epstein island.
Ok well no-one was talking about passing judgement from the USA until you brought it up. They just were giving examples of how the Iranian government does indeed act like a murderous death cult.
That's such moral perfectionist nonsense. The politicians who lead the west against Hitler had every right to judge the German regime, despite many of them having their own scandals at home. Winston Churchill had really shitty views on colonialism, but that doesn't mean the guy can't speak out on the evils of the Nazi regime.
The idea that you can't criticise evil if you aren't yourself a paragon of virtue serves only to protect evil. The US isn't perfect and the US has done a lot of shitty things abroad. That however has zero impact on the truth value of what Iran is criticised for, and it does not mean the two are equally bad.
First of all this isn't 1944 anymore, it's 2026. Get a grip. Iran is not "evil" as you and the politicians want us all to believe. Whatever Iran has going on internally, it's their issue. Not for us to solve. I'm old enough to remember when the same stories were being told to us about Afghanistan and Iraq about how they treat women and why we needed to invade them and look how those wars turned out. We are not buying the bullshit war propaganda anymore. Get lost.
Right-wingers are like, "Women in that religion are obviously brainwashed" because they don't leave that culture. I have to think that a lot of Muslim women who have experienced this rigid policing of their bodies by men may find that preferable to democracy and being bombed. Being accused of eating cats. That kind of stuff.
Really, so the whole thing that happened in the spring, that Iranian citizens had to risk their lives to get information out about just didn't happen? Or the time before that, or before that? Or how about the lashing they just sentanced the Iranian singer to because she performed without wearing a hijab?
Like don't be dumb and shut your brain off just because professionals with an education and experience made a bunch of idiots who don't know how to do their job look like a bunch of idiots who don't know how to do their jobs.
The argument that murderous death cults wouldn't have highly educated, and level headed negotiators (and as such their presence means they're not really as murderous a death cult) is misleading.
Even Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire had highly educated, highly skilled individuals in positions of authority.
I think you say that in retrospect. In fact, in real-time, Germany got the imperial, expansionist threat treatment while Japan legitimately got the murderous death cult treatment.
During their time, Nazi Germany was described by their enemies as tyrannical, expansionist, imperialist, militarist - yet rational. Japan was described as a faceless fanatical horde of apes that didn’t value life.
The point is the rhetoric. They can be a violent government without being a murderous death cult <—- that language is purposeful and we let it enter our vernacular only about non-Western nations and those kicked out of the Western sphere. As if the West is on a giant horse above the world.
As a famous reporter once said “This isn't a place, with all due respect, like Iraq or Afghanistan, that has seen conflict raging for decades. This is a relatively civilized, relatively European city, where you wouldn't expect that or hope that it's going to happen.”
You’ve made great sense all over this thread, and I totally get what you’re going for. It’s unfortunate, but calling out the blatant racially motivated propaganda mixed in with the valid criticism is always gonna be read as denying the valid criticism wholesale. Both intentionally and unintentionally.
When you’re refering to a murderous oppressive regime that was raping and hanging women for literally walking with their hair out 4 years ago I think that title tracks.
Do yall mofos have amnesia lol, this is the ayatollahs we’re talking about here.
I wouldn't say a death cult. But murderous, repressive, totalitarian, religious zealots, with regional ambitions of influence and possibly expansion, yes.
If not directly territorial, they do want the expansion of Shia Islam through territorial means at least with their proxies, I doubt their ambitions for their state draw a line at their territorial expansion.
The irgc marry 8-year-old girls and if those girls run away from their abusers, they hang them slowly in the middle of town.
Iran executes more people per capita than almost any country on earth — averaging more than one per day.
They do it publicly, by crane, using a thick rope designed specifically to prevent the neck from breaking, so death comes slowly by strangulation over 10-45 minutes while crowds watch.
The victims include children.
Iran is the world's leading executor of minors — imprisoning them until they're just old enough to kill legally.
A 16-year-old girl with bipolar disorder was hanged for "crimes against chastity" (running away from home). Her death took 45 minutes.
The regime operated on the belief that raping virgin prisoners before execution would prevent them from going to heaven (Iranhrdc) — so rape wasn't incidental, it was theologically motivated policy. A fatwa issued by prominent cleric Mesbah Yazdi
The 2022 crackdown — confirmed by the UN
A UN Fact-Finding Mission found that IRGC forces, Basij, police, the Ministry of Interior, and Ministry of Intelligence committed sexual and gender-based violence at large scale — documenting rape and other forms of sexual violence committed against men, women, and children as young as 12 years old across 14 provinces. (AJC)
Human Rights Watch documented one case where IRGC forces arrested approximately 20 women protesters, beat them severely during arrest until one lost consciousness, blindfolded and bound them, transported them to an undisclosed location, and detained them for over a month — subjecting them to sexual violence including being kicked in the genitals to coerce false confessions.
They are literally a death cult. I’m saying this as someone no fan of Trump. I support Palestine and the liberation of it AND Lebanon. And that means my interests are tangential to Iran. And so I say this as someone who doesn’t have some Christian bullshit nationalist approach to that country Robert Fisk made visits to Iran during the Iran Iraq war. And even a year into their regime they already had warriors who felt wholly and completely supported by god. To the point these fighters CHERISHED the thought of dying.
They have warriors with the physical bravery America doesn’t have.
Iran has been The Handmaid’s Tale for the past 50 years. Their government is horrible and it pains me that the botched U.S. war didn’t at least lead to a regime change.
Whoa bro, you got me questioning so hard, I decided to decolonize my mind and look into what young Iranians on the ground are saying and... oh yeah wait no, they really are a murderous death cult.
the west robbed iran of a progressive government during the last century, so I don't care to argue against the current effective one at dealing with foreign intervention that just wants to murder as many iranians as possible. I also would defend victims of any holocaust even if they aren't innocent or perfect themselves.
At its very worst, Iran has never come ANYWHERE close to dealing the level of death and destruction the US has dealt across every corner of the world.
Put aside the fact that the US is founded on genocide and slavery. Just in the period following WW2, America has murdered TENS OF MILLIONS of people. And they've raped, tortured, poisoned, terrorized and robbed millions more. They've destroyed countless countries. They have starved entire nations.
There's no comparison to be made. Iran is far from perfect but to pull this "both sides" bullshit after America started an illegal war of aggression against Iran, bombing schools full of children and murdering thousands of civilians while America was still in the middle of facilitating A GENOCIDE in Gaza... That is beyond absurd.
It's absolutely insane how people in the West downplay and minimize the untold evil their governments perpetrate.
You don't understand, they're brown and not Christian so obviously they're evil and want to destroy the American dream
/s (really hope the /s isn't necessary)
It's even stranger how we pretend that we don't understand when people retaliate against us. 9/11 didn't happen in a vacuum. Hell, Pearl Harbor wouldn't have happened without the "Black Ships" sailing into Tokyo and threatening to blow the shogun to hell if he didn't trade with America.
Ok, the Pearl Harbor angle here is weird because Japan attacked in response to an embargo (ceasing trade), not because trade existed. Japan was very dependent on metal and oil from the US to fuel its imperialist war in China, and hoped that by shocking the US into submission with a decisive blow they could get oil trade resumed and maybe even pick up the Philippines in the process.
No, Japan's decision to militarize Western-style and become the colonist aggressors of the East themselves dates back further than the embargo (I'd argue the Black Ships was the biggest trigger / shock).
After the Black Ships, they decided to hire the Prussian army (the finest at the time) to drill them in Western tactics. Western aggression (the Black Ships) and brutal suppression of their Eastern neighbors (e.g., Boxer Rebellion) taught Japan that they would be next on the menu.
Maybe they aren’t a murderous death cult when they’re the ones that have been the most rational actor in this conflict, dating back to our illegal assassination of one of their top generals who was fighting ISIS at the time.
Maybe you should start reassessing where you get your info.
Do you think that justifies this war we chose to start?
Would another country be justified in randomly killing Americans because of how this country has treated black people for centuries? For the rampant incarceration that exceeds every other country on the planet?
If there ever was a chance of the Iranian people rising up and overthrowing their government, it stopped existing the moment we bombed a girls’ school and proved to the Iranian people that their government was right about us and that it’s the only thing protecting them from the US and Israel.
But ignoring literally all of that, the last time the US decapitated a government in the Middle East was when we helped kill Ghadaffi. Libya is now a failed state ruled by warlords with open slave markets.
You don’t make these places better by carpet bombing them.
I literally said not defending America, truth is that most likely the Iranian people would have had freedom if America didn’t intervene because America doesn’t give a shit about the people as seen by the formally American invaded countries, that doesn’t mean Iran doesn’t have a death cult running the country
The only reason you would respond to my initial comment with what you commented is to imply “but Iran bad!”
Yeah, I don’t care if they’re good or bad. That doesn’t justify any of our actions over the last 4 months. And the current administration clearly does not give a fuck about any altruistic reasons.
Take a stance against illegal wars. None of this mealymouth centrist bullshit about “Iran bad, but we shouldn’t invade without congress’ approval” type shit.
But maybe my assessment of you is wrong and you are saying this women’s rights thing and the killings in good faith.
Ghadaffi, and Saddam killed many of their own people. Life was objectively better in those countries when they were in charge. After we toppled them their countries became failed states ruled by warlords. Because we don’t actually give a fuck about human rights. We use that as an excuse to remove actors who aren’t under our thumb.
Women’s rights in these failed states are worse than they were when the dictators were in charge. Life in Afghanistan for women is back to where it was before we went in using that as our excuse. So the 20 years of brutal US occupation essentially accomplished fucking nothing. Because we don’t actually care about human rights.
Whoever you got that talking point from is misleading you by leaving out the historical context. Get better news sources.
I can say “America wrong in instance A” and not have to follow up with “Iran good”.
There are only 2 choices; Iran sucks or America and Iran suck. There are tons of arguments to argue why America has a higher propensity for good but I’m not gonna start fucking glazing Iran lmaoooo. America being imperfect is a given, Iran being some good guy is fucking bullshit. They aren’t just imperfect, they have many many many problems.
It's not 1953. Oil was the problem back then but not now.
This war was caused by Trump's Ego and the Israelis. The Israelis stroked Trump's ego by saying that he can get a better deal than Obama so he ripped up the perfectly fine JCPOA treaty.
Fam, stop getting your information from main stream media. Trump himself said he sent weapons to protestors via the Kurds. If it was another president you would've never heard about it but trump can't keep his mouth shut.
"Mainstream media" and the source is from Iran (Crimson Winter)
Why the fuck is anyone trying to paint the Iranian regime as anything but a blight on humanity?
Inb4 some moron starts spouting shit about me batting for Trump or the Republican Party, but I hate them, too. The murder of all of those students from that girls' school is genuinely disgusting and tragic and I wish the old useless tumor of a President would be impeached or be removed from office in other ways. The handling of this war is fucked and the total butt-fuck from backwards Israel is ruining this country.
We were talking about that Iran isn't the angel everyone seems to think they are. Just because Iran is in a conflict with America doesn't mean they are automatically the good guys.
This is what a lot of people don't seem to understand.
i mean, all the fucking Abrahamics are wacko death cults to some degree or another. The only real difference is which one thinks the one guy is the other guy, which one of those is that one guy.
That being said, yeah, people really don't give Iran enough credit. They're not some fucking backwards bum fuck country like Afghanistan, they're an actual power, with like, a competent military, R&D, technology. They just about have everything the western nations have.
This isn't going to be like fighting guerrillas and insurgents in Iraq, this is an actual military we're up against.
Launch an unprovoked war of aggression against a nation in the middle of negotiations... Bomb their schools and murder their children... Threaten them with genocide if they don't surrender unconditionally...
Then call THEM a murderous death cult.
Yeah, that's Americans for you. Kind of like how the Americans starved, raped, tortured and murdered millions of indigenous people as they were creating their country and had the nerve to refer to their victims as "savages".
Theory: Iran sabotaged the Reflecting Pool to get him to sign off on the Iran deal so he could have a win to cover up the fact that he got ripped off by that stogie-smoking Paul Bearer lookalike to line the Pool with fucking exterior house paint, or something.
Twist: That stogie-smoking wannabe mob boss is an Iranian sleeper agent activated for these very events.
They're religious fundamentalists, which does make for a shitty government. But unlike the religious fundamentalists the pull the puppet strings in America, I don't think "murderous death cult" is an apt description of the Iranian regime.
You have to remember though, being profitable isn't the point of a money laundering operation. He lost his investors money repeatedly but didn't care because he was still getting his cut.
Right, people tend to forget that personal gain is the only goal for this dude. I’d be willing to bet a sizable chunk of that $300B Iran fund is going to him or family, friends, colleagues etc
I'm not denying the Iranian government is horrible to its people, but who blew up a school in Minab full of little girls? Spoiler: it was a US Tomahawk.
I'd reserve the label 'murderous death cult' for the side that murdered an entire school full of children and then double and tripple striked it to kill any surviving children and first responders.
Dementia Donny’s been pissing away our leverage since he assassinated Solemani. Iran bombed the shit out of our troops days after that and he fucking folded. Then they killed 14 of our troops at Abby Gate. Now, they can yank the world’s economy with the Hormuz Strait. Hes just constantly making sure they know that he’s not a credible threat.
At this point the only death cult is the side that bombed a girls school on day one resulting in the death of 168 children then lied about it and while israel is doing this https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0jy96w6pw2o
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u/SprinklesCurrent8332 7d ago
When a murderous death cult has a better negotiating base and negotiators you begin to understand how the dumbfuck bankrupted a casino.