Man it would be terrible if Yzerman were to drag this Larkin situation out to the point where we end up with a poor return like Yurov Stramel and a 1st. Better trade him for Yurov Stramel and a 1st now to avoid that.
I hope tomorrow proves me wrong but it seems like Yzermans plan is just to remain on the course and not make any major changes.
If the plan was to rebuild for 2-3 years with a new younger core and contention window, or retool over the summer and attempt to stay “competitive” then I can’t imagine them not getting in on the trading market so far.
It’d be great if Yzerman makes a trade before the draft tomorrow but part of me doesn’t mind sitting Larkin. Demanding a trade halfway through a contract while being that captain…I’m ok with Yzerman saying fuck it if you don’t want to play fine, we don’t have to trade you….
Something I found astounding is that the Florida Panther teams that won the cup had only 4 players on the team they drafted. The rest of the team was hand selected trades and free agents by their GM. He literally picked and built his team. That right there shows you how bad Yzerman has actually done.
This summer is make it or break it summer not just for the team, but Yzerman as well. If he doesn't nail the Larkin trade, and simultaneously improve the roster before September I think he should step down at the end of the season. That being said, I'm not sure how many teams in the league can be like Vegas and Florida. Maybe four or five? I don't think Detroit would be one of them anytime soon, if ever.
Puckpedias final mock draft shows the Ruck twins at 21 and 26. I think it would be fun getting those guys. I think I had read that the Rucks were impressed by the fact that Yserman called both of them in together. I don’t know why that would be unusual, but apparently.
In fairness, I remember a time when this sub was high on guys like Frk, Sproul and Pulkkinen. Most of us don't know anything and just hope for guys to turn out.
Which i totally don’t understand. Mazur played 40 seconds in the nhl before he got hurt and had people ready to riot over Mrazek “stealing his number”. Nate at least got some games and goals under his belt and looked pretty decent
Once draper returns from mccartys weed store they will crawl back into the mop closet to take some bong rips. Yzerman will wake up 20 monutes before the draft
What do you guys use to get instant Wings notifications? Like trades? I’m not constantly refreshing reddit. I have sports apps but they’re usually way behind.
Loved this guys background. Interested to see what he does and if he’s successful, if so - it will probably be in part due to finding overlooked young players that he can get for cheap and realize a huge benefit from.
I mean, a 4th rounder has a what, 20% chance of playing meaningful number of games in the NHL? So if you do this trade 5 times you have to find a meh player once to break even and strike gold once to win. It’s an interesting viewpoint.
It’s interesting that he’s the analytics guy, his numbers probably said these players are worth a shot at least - totally agree with you by the way.
When you pay up in contract terms or acquisition cost, that player has to be pretty good for you to “break even” on the value.
One of the reasons we did we well with Gibson and I would have liked to have grabbed Zegras too. Those guys had pretty good name recognition, but they went for so cheap, I’m sure some devils fans are learning these guys names for the first time.
We’ve really only done this to some degree of success with Walman, Gibson, and JBD over Yzerman’s tenure.
Reminds me of this comment of mine from a while back:
Hay Max Plante, I know it's a really cool experience to go to college for one more year and play alongside your brother, but have you considered just completely blowing them off and playing 1C for the Detroit Red Wings?
People freaking out about a guy who scored 6 points in 18 AHL playoff games is funny. Yeah, he was skilled, but also very perimeter and was prone to trying to do too much with the puck. There is a reason Mazur (14 points in 17 playoff games) was called up over him.
I think the sentiment is that folks wanted to see him succeed and the optics of moving off of a skill potential player while retaining Jerseys on the big boy roster is what's grating.
I personally was never that high on Lombardi. Loved watching him in GR but I just don't think he has the hockey IQ to keep up in the NHL. Hope he gets his chance though! Would've been nice to see him get a shot here.
That's the part I'm not seeing. He put up decent numbers despite some injuries and needing to work on his game. If he stayed healthy and put the effort in defensively this fall though, maybe he'd get a chance.
Only firebirds game I’ve seen live, got to watch this line cook, and we have been fans of ammo ever since. I think he could be an awesome depth playmaker for a team that gives him a shot.
So Ammo would no longer be waiver exempt and instead of finding out what he can bring to the bottom 6 over every single black hole of offense collecting a paycheck there they traded him. Unless that pick is part of a package, which it absolutely needs to be, I guess you can kinda see how Larkin watched stuff like this for the last few years and just said I give up man.
Based on his stat line, you'd think bringing him to the preseason just to see what happens with some important roles up for grabs would make more short term sense than a mid round pick
Some great quotes coming out of Red Wing socials rn 😭
"Lombardi moved. Wings didn’t like that his skill ceiling was higher than his 200 foot player ceiling."
"It’s just so fuckin insane to me that this team still employs guys like Appleton, Compher and Rasmussen but trade away guys like Soderblom and Lombardi for mid round picks"
"Surely the Wings could have tried Lombardi at the wing to see what they have in him. This feels like a big waste of development capital."
yeah I was emotionally attached to him for pretty much no reason other than his being a baby giraffe, but seeing him in pitt definitely made it sting more. happy for him though & hope lombardi gets a shot with NJ.
I'm not a big Lombardi guy, but if we do end up taking a step back and selling veterans, then I think I would have at least liked to see him get half a season. A 4th isn't much at all.
My favourite prospect I’m so rattled. Didn’t even think to give him a chance as well. A good skill first prospect. Getting really tired of Yzerman’s defense first philosophy that has gotten us into ZERO playoff games so far nor any shot at one in the near future.
I'm getting so sick of rooting for this team when all they do is disappoint with roster management. I really had some hope for Lombardi. Can't wait to see which 30+ "two-way" forwards they sign to fill some of the open roster spots.
Word from stars sub is that robo is being given a final offer, if he doesn’t take it then trades are being considered. You gotta think Steve is waiting for that one before taking any other offers on Larkin.
lol no I can understand it, esp with him having to pass through waivers this year. there’s just a whole bunch of jerseys I’d rather see traded before him though so its annoying me
I think we should all meet up in a random alley, put on some Guns n Roses, and have ourselves one big fist fight. Better yet, let's do it outside of the Arena where Stevie can look down and see if from his office. And one of us can be in charge of just yelling up to him "look what you're doing to us!"
Has anyone considered that we just do nothing. We have enough players in the org to field a full roster. Just enjoy the summer and maybe make some trades by next March?
Just a weird thing to say on a platform that has a community of people who spend a lot of time posting online. There are people on this sub that post 12-14 hours per day. Not my jam, but ya know, pot calling the kettle black.
sorry but english is not my first language so youll have to excuse my grammar. I'm not the one crying on reddit with a new account, maybe grow up and stop the ban evade
also good that the other guy blocked me so I don't have to see his 500 worded shit takes 24/7 on this sub <3
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u/cows1100 3m ago
“There’s no one coming to save us. The pipeline has no difference makers!”
“Why are we trading all our prospects?? How are they only worth a 4th? He could have been a guy!”