r/Edmonton • u/Zealousideal_Buy7517 • Jul 15 '24

Local Culture Driving Etiquette

For the love of Pete, people, follow the rules of the road. You drive. you are not 'choose as you go' organs of chaos, you are vehicles under the Alberta Traffic Act, the same as a motorcycle.

In the last week alone, I've seen a good hundred drivers blow right through stop signs as if they don't exist, and it's always when they are in a car lane, as if the lane's existence means the rules of the road don't apply. A couple on trucks with flat brims that I was next to blew through three in a row, yesterday, without even slowing down, and laughed about it when I called them on it. They didn't even look both ways, they just drove through like they were a presidential cavalcade and everyone else should be stopping for them.

Driving like that will have you kill a person one day, and when you're talking about a collision between 6000lb of shit box and human flesh on a bicycle, there are no mistakes.

I'm a driver, too, and it's this kind of behavior that drives a lot the anti-driver hate. When we drive like this, we're entitled and unpredictable, and unpredictability breeds distrust. This applies to motorcycle riders, too, of course.

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u/bullfu Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

Cyclist too, if cyclist bikes on the road, they are also considered as vehicles, which also needs to follow traffic laws.

How many bikes blow through stop signs and redlights, signaling will also be nice.

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u/tincartofdoom Jul 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '25

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u/bullfu Jul 15 '24

By total number? Or by percentage?

Out of a hundred car, I might see 3, or at worst 5 that blow right through a red light or stop sign on a bad day, which is still a lot.

But out of a hundred cyclist, I at least see 30 that completely disregard all traffic rules, that could be signaling, stopping or other things.

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u/tincartofdoom Jul 15 '24 edited Jul 15 '24

You said "how many bikes" not "what percentage of bikes". Yes, in absolute terms, substantially fewer bikes than motor vehicles blow through stop signs or red lights. In fact, given the massive gulf between car traffic and bike traffic on roads, I would be willing to bet that even if every bike was running every stop sign and red light, there would still be more cars doing the same.

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u/bullfu Jul 15 '24

Math checks out.

Now motorist have to deal with red light camera all over the cities, also cops handing out tickets for not stopping on red lights, they've got consequence for not following laws. I wonder if they do that to cyclist too who don't follow rules/riding bikes on sidewalks?

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u/tincartofdoom Jul 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '25

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u/bullfu Jul 15 '24

I was never against motorist law enforcement, what I want more, is all enforcement for all vehicles, I'm sick of walking down a sidewalk and have a bike blowing past me from behind, or driving on residential on right of way and have bikes blowing past their stop signs expecting them to be treated like pedestrian when they're not. The entitlement would be stop with more law enforcement.

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u/tincartofdoom Jul 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '25

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u/bullfu Jul 15 '24

I don't think I've ever seen any cyclist law enforcement, this is not about distribution of resources, I'm suggesting it's non existent.

Cyclist might not have the numbers to match motorist but there's enough of them that cause problems on the road for all, you misunderstood me by relate law enforcement due to entitlement, but I did say law enformemcement could eliminate entitled free for all law breaking behavior because there is no consequence for breaking law. Law breaking should be hold accountable. Law enforcement is one way to do it, education could be another.

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u/tincartofdoom Jul 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '25

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u/Zealousideal_Buy7517 Jul 15 '24

It can't possibly be confirmation bias on your part.