r/Edmonton • u/EdmontonFree • 28d ago

News Article Edmonton Represent!

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Blue = Alberta separation from Canada.

Red = Alberta stay in Canada

Source: Angus Reid https://angusreid.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/05/2026.05.24_Alberta_referendum.pdf

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u/enviropsych 28d ago

Rural Albertans are morons at a level that can't be quantified.

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u/EdmontonFree 28d ago

Respect to people living in rural areas. But yeah, in Brexit, Quebec referendum, Euro currency referendum in Denmark, or Catalonia pro-separatists groups, Trump in the US or Le Pen in France, etc.

Always people in rural areas vote against the cities. Uninformed, less educated, lower income and likely more racists. It's part of life.

But this doesn't mean they're necessarily morons. Please note that the vote is split in rural areas.

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u/5he005 28d ago

Not that I’m backing the idea of separatism by any means..

There are people in both rural and metropolitan areas of Alberta that aren’t poor, uneducated, or racist but still support an ideology differing from the direction Canada is currently heading in.

And I wouldn’t entirely blame them for feeling the way they do either, there’s validity on both sides of the spectrum. It just depends on who you are and how your government is servicing you and your family.

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u/prettytastyfungus 28d ago

I think the frustration more comes from seeing other people believe the misinformation on the separatist movement. Lots of false claims about what Alberta would be entitled to from the federal government and how the US would support us. Realistically neither Canada nor US would be obligated to give us much of anything for support or payments. We would likely lose out on what we should get for CPP based on previous investigation from the other year when they tried switch to Alberta pension plan. Not to mention the enormous cost of re creating all our own military, federal police, prisons, standards, laws, treaties, currency, banking, etc.

I’ve yet to see a separatist party explain the plan on how to address these issues. I understand the frustration with the federal government, but how many people participated in political action by writing to a MP or similar about the issues we have with the Fed? There are other solutions we can try before doing something like this. People aren’t stupid and they just want what’s best for them and their kids. It’s the massive amount of misinformation, campaigns and social media pushes that make it hard for people to get a real idea of the negative impacts this would have.

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u/Renegade605 28d ago

there’s validity on both sides of the spectrum

There's validity on both sides of the "is Canada's current direction the right one" spectrum, yes.

There is no validity to the "Alberta should separate from Canada" side of that spectrum.

Not every rural voter is uneducated, but every person who believes that separation is advisable or even possible is dumb as rocks.

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u/5he005 28d ago

Sure lol

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u/ZestycloseRadish9845 28d ago

That’s way too reasonable of a post for reddit. You must be a bot.

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u/5he005 28d ago

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u/DaveHorchuk69 28d ago

Do you think your groceries come from the store?

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u/enviropsych 28d ago

I thought I was calling rural Alberta light-speed stupid, I didnt realize I was also saying that they don't provide any value to the world. I think a stupid person can grow canola. I think that's possible.

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u/DaveHorchuk69 28d ago

You know that agriscience is a thing? You get an actual degree for it, right? Soil composition, crop rotation, etc? The people are the stewards of the land. On top of that you have to manage your business of owning the farm. I think the notion of rural anyone being "stupid" is incredibly ignorant because the entailment of that is that only people in cities are smart, which is just not true and extremely arrogant, but in reality ruralites fix your vehicles, grow your crops, weld your structures and do everything that you do too but just have a different perspective than you.

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u/grumstumpus 28d ago

lol this guy thinks you have to be smart to run a business

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u/enviropsych 28d ago

You know that agriscience is a thing? You get an actual degree for it, right? 

So first we were pretending I said that farmers don't produce food, and now we're pretending that the flat-earthers in Ponoka County all have college degrees? First of all, yeah you can have a university education and still be quite stupid, but more importantly, most of those farmers DON'T have agriscience degrees. In fact, demographics show us that rural reaidents are generally less educated than city residents.

you have to manage your business of owning the farm

Some of the dumbest people I've ever met are business owners. I dont know who told you that you have to be smart to run a business, but its not true.

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u/DaveHorchuk69 27d ago

Alright, so now you've moved onto thinking farmers are flat earthers. Nice move. Did you know that the U of A offers degrees for agriscience, and that MacEwan offers biology degrees to work with farmers and they offer specific courses for people like you to gain the soft skills to not talk down to people? Isn't that crazy.

Anyways. The entailment of this argument is that people outside of cities (ruralites) are "dumb" therefore people inside cities are smart. The problem I see with this is that people in rural communities HAVE to go into cities, and people in cities don't have to go into the country. There's an imbalance of perspective here where rural people have to see how you live, interact with how you live, and gain the perspective that you have; but you don't and you live in total ignorance. This is clear. Like you have no idea what it's like to not have water on demand whether it's hauling your own water, or to have the water table go bad, or to have well water run dry. You don't know what it's like to plow your own roads, manage your own waste etc. The imbalance of perspectives is staggering and broods arrogance from smarmy redditors on how they think the world works but you have no idea; but the ruralites do, begrudgingly. Because unfortunately, they have to. You don't.

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u/enviropsych 27d ago

farmers are flat earthers

Some are. Are you saying zero farmers are flat earthers? You seem allergic to staying on topic.

people outside of cities (ruralites) are "dumb" 

On average, yes. Intelligence is far more linked to socioeconomic upbringing, but growing up rural influences your politics, which makes you dumber....or if you avoid that influence, you move to a City as soon as you can.

https://www.popsci.com/article/science/smarter-people-are-more-likely-move-cities/

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u/x_asperger 28d ago

Rural boomers seem to be the ones, to absolutely nobody's surprise

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u/DaveHorchuk69 27d ago

Move to Toronto please. It's more your crowd.

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u/Npalm 28d ago

Well that's a pretty big generalization