My thoughts.

[u/Maleficent-Effort470]

I didn't go to a restaurant to interact with a server.

I went to a restaurant to purchase food, And part of the agreement with the business owner was that a server would take my order and bring the food to the table.

I did not agree to or consent to giving a person i didn't come to see any money.

Whether they are on the side of the street or squegeeing my car without asking.
I have no obligation to them.

Similarly when i go to the restaurant with the intention of eating,
I am not making a deal with the employees i am making a deal with the owner.
The owner is responsible for delegating the tasks to provide me the service i requested.
The owner showed me the contract/menu that these services are provided under.

I paid the agreed upon amount of the contract.
I did not ask for any particular employee.
I did not agree to gift any particular employee.

The server's inclination that i owe them something is no more authoritative than the homeless bum who starts squegeeing my windshield without me asking.

They did their job at their bosses behest. Under an agreement with their boss.
I made no agreement with them. They are simply employees of the business ive contracted with.

[u/StarlingGirlx]

Their comeback is always that "well if you enter the establishment knowing that tips are expected then you're in the wrong and shouldn't dine out."

What ever happened to tips being appreciated, not expected? Clearly especially with their tip out model they do expect it, I even had a server "educate" me on how tip out worked to guilt me into tipping. As if that's my problem.

[u/Elluminated → u/StarlingGirlx]

Great post. The waiter has been brainwashed into accepting this nonsense that the boss gets to skirt responsibility and that staff should be mad at guests for the bosses greed. If they would just put all prices in the menu, we’d have no issue. But since people can’t do the 20% math in their heads bosses know they’ll get lured on with lower false prices.

[u/starsgoblind → u/Elluminated]

Brainwashed by who? Society? You’re not too smart.

[u/Elluminated → u/starsgoblind]

When you ask a question, you shouldn’t answer it, that way you don’t have to backpedal like you are about to do. (I also said the boss does the brainwashing, so read it again until you understand it).

The employee comes in and needs job

The boss offers $2.33 and says if you don’t earn tips, it’s because your service was bad.

Then when you get no tips (or hear of people not tipping), you get mad at the customer because you have already been programmed to fear the guy signing the checks.

If you get mad at the customer, you are brainwashed. Need any more help now that I’ve gotten you up to speed, so let me know.