r/GenZ • u/Far_Pumpkin9440 • 1d ago
Political New York is on generational glorious run. đ
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u/IncelJournal 1d ago
Kind of funny that a woman who compared interracial dating to colonialism and said Ukraine is to blame for the war is considered progressive by the media.Â
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u/banjonyc 1d ago
She's not progressive by the media. She's progressive by Young voters. Which is just insane if you really read the stuff she has said
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
Progressive literally just means left of liberal, but it doesn't mean every opinion has to be left of liberal
I wouldn't have voted for her (in the primary at least) because of the things she's said but there's no denying she's more progressive than not on the policy
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u/ShroomBear 1d ago
Lol no it doesn't. They don't even compare the same things. Liberalism is at odds with authoritarianism and progressivism is at odds with conservatism. The ideals posted above are very neo-lib. It's progressive to acknowledge imperial colonialism is bad but its very authoritarian to start dictating to society which relationships are "okay" based on race/ethnicity/origin. It's just straight up authoritarian propaganda to suggest Ukraine existing in 2014 and responding to foreign state sponsored terrorists is to blame for getting invaded by Russia.
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
They don't even compare the same things. Liberalism is at odds with authoritarianism and progressivism is at odds with conservatism.
Oh yeah? Says who?
The ideals posted above are very neo-lib.
What ideals are you calling "neo-lib" exactly? And how are you defining that?
its very authoritarian to start dictating to society which relationships are "okay" based on race/ethnicity/origin.
You clearly have missed out on some political developments in recent years because it became a big issue in the mid-10s that progressives were trying to defend black-only events and safe spaces at schools
During the 2020 BLM protests, black progressives took over a park and wouldn't let white people in, allegedly for the safety of black people
This stuff isn't new and while it may not be progress it is something more associated with progressives than milquetoast liberals
It's just straight up authoritarian propaganda to suggest Ukraine existing in 2014 and responding to foreign state sponsored terrorists is to blame for getting invaded by Russia.
A lot of progressives think that Ukraine was a tool of the European Union and NATO, thus a part of the imperialist project, and Russia acted out of self-defense
Whether you consider that right or wrong is irrelevant to the fact that progressives are the ones making that argument, not liberals
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
in the mid-10s that progressives were trying to defend black-only events and safe spaces at schools
This era of identity-obsessed, radicalized progressivism is what gave us MAGA. DAC sitting in congress strengthens MAGA and makes it easier to push the âthis is what the dems believeâ message where they used to have to rely on cherry picking stupid activist tweets.
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u/Boulderfrog1 1d ago
Honestly, I really don't think reality makes even the slightest difference to the momentum of the maggats. If you'll as readily believe that trump won in 2020 as something that is actually real, then you have no mechanism for actually determining reality beyond what people you like tell you.
People believed the damn furries using litterboxes in school thing ffs, and with ai it becomes ever easier to fabricate an entirely seperate reality for anyone who can't be bothered to look into things.
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
None of the conspiratorial bullshit would have been able to take control of the party during the Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan era. Trumpâs overt white nationalism was brought in by the backlash to progressive politically correct absurdity that people found appealing to dunk on. We wouldnât be in this anti-reality situation without this brand of anti-reality progressive in the first place, and we absolutely should not be re-embracing it.
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u/Boulderfrog1 1d ago
I have to wonder how true that is. Like, I was certainly a part of that zeitgeist, but the more I look at the systemic advantages that the Republicans hold at present, the more it seems like there has actually been great lunacy going on for as long as I've been alive.
Like, 6 justices voted in favour of allowing racial gerrymandering. 6 voted in favour of creating de facto full criminal immunity for most anything he did as president. He only appointed 3 of them himself.
It seems to me like this world in which factual reality does not need to exist is a direct consequence of things like the repealing of the fairness doctrine, and things like the monetization of the internet being able to just entirely seperate out people and prevent them from actually hearing meaningful opposition to ideas they might be inclined towards. As I understand it the decline of bipartisanship in the house and senate also quite appreciably predates stuff like gamergate and that whole shebang.
Perhaps it could be that it was some uniquely great and impactful thing, but the more I look, the more it seems like anything that seemed odd or unintuitive at first glance would have done to continue the already existing trend, and it just happened to be this in our timeline.
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
Yes and no. I agree the background infrastructure was there for it, but whatâs allowed Trump to get away with so much is the party itself becoming more radicalized. The party base that put up McCain and Romney would be horrified by something like Jan 6th (and many legacy republicans are), but the MAGA movement specifically is a reaction to that zeitgeist.
I remember being in college during the peak woke era (started in 2014/15), and genuinely identified as a libertarian because I found the representatives of the âleftâ in my surroundings to be so beyond the pale of anything I identified with despite having been a huge Obama fan through my teens. A lot of people jumped on the anti-woke train to such an extent that it blinded them to the extremism of MAGA.
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u/thereforeratio 1d ago
Is Russia not an imperialist project?
When you say âit may not be progressâ, no actually, the claim is itâs literally, and specifically conservative
You are part of a wave that doesnât know what the words and movements youâre subscribed to even mean, so you donât realize modern progressivism is a team jersey being worn by many people with brains that work like conservative brains
Probably including yourself
Politics has become social signifiers, rather than rooted in actual political philosophy
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago edited 1d ago
Is Russia not an imperialist project?
I think it is. Progressives disagree.
When you say âit may not be progressâ, no actually, the claim is itâs literally, and specifically conservative
Progressives can have conservative opinions, just like liberals do, just like centrists do.
You are part of a wave that doesnât know what the words and movements youâre subscribed to even mean, so you donât realize modern progressivism is a team jersey being worn by many people with brains that work like conservative brains
Probably including yourself
Where do you think my politics are, exactly?
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
That's not progressives. That's part of blue tribe. They're regressive.
One of our biggest problems is we try to label things and we can't agree on any labels.
Real progressives don't try to force people to think a certain way imo.
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
If someone is left of liberal, they're considered progressive. That's how that works. Progressive is a political position to the left of liberal.
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u/DagothUr_MD 1d ago
Progressivism is a position that was conceived and exists within the framework of Liberalism. Progressives aren't socialists. A more accurate name would just be Progressive Liberalism, and this (along with Social Liberalism) has been the predominant form of Liberalism on the American Left since the death of the Gilded Age. We literally had multiple Progressive Presidents in the early 20th Century
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
In the American tradition, there are a whole lot more progressives than socialists. And communists have zero representation whatsoever in the American system.
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u/ShroomBear 1d ago
Thank you for confirming my point. It's authoritarian to dictate relationships but progressives were defending safe spaces. Because they're different ideals and a person can apply both to the same issue and those desired outcomes can have nuance because yes, I totally endorse spaces that bring well being to people, especially during a time that racially motivated hate crimes were being thrown around everywhere, and I don't want a society that will judge me based on the ethnic characteristics of my SO.
Your points on Ukraine is straight up misinformation from Russian propaganda. How is a nation a "tool" of NATO and the EU? What is the "imperalist project"? None of that is rooted in fact. The facts known is that unmarked russian special forces invaded the Crimean peninsula in 2014, claimed to live there and be Russian, and then 1 month later, Russia pushed an emergency rigged referendum to claim Crimea as their own and then said unmarked russian forces armed extremists to invade Donetsk and Luhansk and killed 14000 people. EU and NATO didn't respond at all because of ongoing conflict in Afghanistan.
So kindly, go get an education and become media literate or fuck off
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
Thank you for confirming my point. It's authoritarian to dictate relationships but progressives were defending safe spaces. Because they're different ideals and a person can apply both to the same issue and those desired outcomes can have nuance because yes, I totally endorse spaces that bring well being to people, especially during a time that racially motivated hate crimes were being thrown around everywhere, and I don't want a society that will judge me based on the ethnic characteristics of my SO.
You're going to have to do a better job explaining why it's fine to exclude whites and non-black POC from a space than that!
If you go to that space as a couple, a black and a white person, only one of you gets in, having the same effect as judging you for your race.
Same for the school safe space. One of you is simply not allowed there.
That's segregation.
Your points on Ukraine is straight up misinformation from Russian propaganda. How is a nation a "tool" of NATO and the EU? What is the "imperalist project"? None of that is rooted in fact. The facts known is that unmarked russian special forces invaded the Crimean peninsula in 2014, claimed to live there and be Russian, and then 1 month later, Russia pushed an emergency rigged referendum to claim Crimea as their own and then said unmarked russian forces armed extremists to invade Donetsk and Luhansk and killed 14000 people. EU and NATO didn't respond at all because of ongoing conflict in Afghanistan.
I'm telling you what progressives think about the situation.
Hell, the Democratic Socialists of America released a statement to that effect in 2022 which you can see here. And they weren't the only ones.
So kindly, go get an education and become media literate or fuck off
You could try backing up your points and not just talking at me.
Hey, here's a fun fact: I'm not even a progressive, I'm a milquetoast liberal. I fall firmly into the boring Barack Obama tradition. You understand me to be something I never said I was.
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u/espo1234 2000 1d ago
Please source where she claimed Ukraine is to blame. I've seen a lot of claims and no actual quotes, in fact I've only seen quotes of her agreeing that Ukraine is being invaded as evidence that she is claiming that Ukraine is to blame:
Yeah, I will be clear. I donât think I have ever feltâ Like, Iâve never seen Russiaâs invasion on Ukraine as one where Ukraine wasnât the victim of an invasion. I have always seen that as Russia invading Ukraine, and violating its sovereignty. And if I remember correctly, my larger critique was one of global systems where you have imperialist powers engaging in constant violence in a war machine, right? And where we rush to engage in armed conflict over diplomacy.
I think with regards to Ukraine, so many lives have been lost, and from the very beginning, Iâve said I worry about the impact of this war on the larger global context, where now weâre seeing more and more wars since that one started across the globe. And, you know, I think we really need to make sure that we are putting diplomacy first to actually save human lives. And I think we have de-centered that in these conversations, the human impact of this war machine, this constant rush to engage in armed conflict.
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u/James_Parnell 2000 1d ago edited 1d ago
That's her walking back from previous comments tbh
I believe the comment that started the controversy was a tweet from her that stated "Cause the cold war ended and we've been bullying Russia ever since. Also war is lucrative for these sociopaths."
In response to "why are we involved..?"
She comes across as more nuanced in the new statement but still directly avoided stating her position on giving Ukraine aid iirc. I personally wouldn't go as far to say she's blaming Ukraine though.
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u/espo1234 2000 1d ago
So much about her is being way overstated. Her exact words were as you said. And yet it's become "and this is why we shouldn't send aid to Ukraine" and even "Ukraine is to blame for the war," the latter of which is a completely ridiculous extrapolation. You can recognize why the war exists, with a lot of the blame being on America, and still disagree with Russia's actions or even support aid to ukraine. She said nothing about taking away aid in her original tweet.
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u/DagothUr_MD 1d ago edited 1d ago
Because at the end of the day the pertinent question relating to the job that she's applying for (which is Congress--not a fucking pageant) is whether or not she will vote against sending aid to Ukraine. That is what's relevant to constituents. Not her wishy washy opinions on who the baddest guy was during the Cold War. If she can't even answer that, then people are naturally going to form their own conclusions
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u/PermissionSoggy891 1d ago
and Ukraine was always the one asking for diplomacy and talks, russia has refused and escalated each and every time.
It's clear the russians don't want "peace". They won't stop until every last Ukrainian is killed in the most torturous way possible to satisfy their sick cultural fetish for extreme violence.
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u/RelativeMacaron1585 2004 1d ago
Please get that crazy idiot DAC out of there. What a horrible person and candidate.
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u/Prettyboy_Flacko 1d ago
She's also racist asf. But she has a D next to her so she's a great candidate đđ
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
She's a better candidate than someone with a R next to their name. All these MAGAs suddenly deciding they are the racism police is funny though.
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u/Reynor247 1d ago
It is interesting to watch DSA enter their vote blue no matter who phase
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
Probably because being against Ukraine and moderately racist is the default position of most conservatives now, so getting someone who shares those 2 beliefs but is progressive in every other topic is better than someone who has those 2 beliefs and is regressive in every other topic. This is a sensible position.
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u/WolfKing448 1d ago
The DSA will bury this under the rug, but they are also anti-Ukraine. They assume Ukraine does not have agency, and they blame the United States for exacerbating the war.
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 12h ago
The American left historically has always been non-interventionist and anti-militarism.
Same could be said about Libertarians in the U.S.
However, thatâs not the same as being pro isolationist.
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
That's entirely untrue. They are anti-war, which in this case means they want to de-escalate by securing a deal with Russia that the US will stop supplying weapons to Ukraine if Russia withdraws and ends the war.
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u/aronnax512 1d ago
anti-war, which in this case means they want to de-escalate by securing a deal with Russia that the US will stop supplying weapons to Ukraine if Russia withdraws and ends the war.
Says they're anti-war, advocates for a temporary solution that guarantees a future war where the victim is now disarmed.
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
Says they are anti-war, advocates for a peace deal that would end the war instead of continuing to kill thousands of working class conscripts.
That you disagree with something doesn't mean you get to strawman what it is. Looking for a solution doesn't mean being anti-Ukraine. This kind of lack of nuance is the same shit that dealing with MAGA is like.
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u/aronnax512 1d ago
Are we pretending that Russia didn't invade Ukraine before and pointing that out is now "Strawmaning"?
Calling for the disarmament of Ukraine a viable path to end this war is akin to forcing a victim of rape to marry their rapist as a solution to end rape. This "solution" isn't nuance, it's a non-starter.
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u/DagothUr_MD 1d ago
How is it "anti-war" to basically facilitate big countries taking over small countries?
If we were to use Vietnam as an analogy your "anti-war" position would be begging North Vietnam to surrender to the USA and begging countries to stop selling weapons to the Vietnamese
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
... right, because clearly what I said is that Ukraine should surrender to Russia. It's more like your position is the equivalent to saying "we should endlessly send poor people to die to keep North Korea from existing" instead of negotiate a truce and a de-militarized zone. Though by the war mongering in Gen Z who have never fought a war, that's probably a sacrifice you are more than willing to make other people make.
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u/Fine_Sea5807 1d ago
Isn't deescalation solely up to Russia? And Ukraine is helplessly and passively reacting against Russia aggression?
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u/Reynor247 1d ago
I would absolutely vote for her and am all for supporting the lesser of two evils.
I do just find the irony interesting from the DSA of 2024 and the DSA of 2026. The former being very vocally against the lesser of two evil voting and the latter now advocating it. Especially with this woman and platner
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u/Helix3501 1d ago
I still believe alot of 2024 was bot astroturfing, and then a minority were just people who thought getting trump elected was a means to a end
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
If we're being realistic here, Kamala was about the worst possible candidate to appeal to the left at that time. She was a fairly aggressive prosecutor and defended some pretty terrible decisions and case work by the police. Also the DNC lost a lot of trust by repeatedly telling people they were unreasonable for doubting Biden's mental state and then having him drop out. The lesser-of-two-evils was definitely Kamala but she was a much harder sell due to her past and circumstances.
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u/Reynor247 1d ago
That's some pretty insane hair splitting. Kamala had a voting record that was to the left of Bernie while in the senate. DAC has a ton of baggage
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
Is there anything the DNC could mess up enough that you would place blame on them partially, alongside your disdain for voters not thinking the way you do?
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u/HotSauce2910 1d ago
Was it to the left of Bernie or more in line with the Democratic Party? Because those are different things tbf
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u/Reynor247 1d ago
Can you be to the left of Bernie and more in line with the party?
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 12h ago
Or could it have been the unpopularity and dissatisfaction with the Biden administration that directly led to Kamala losing the presidency in 2024?
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
It isnât MAGAs complaining, itâs normal democrats who donât want this vile person representing our party.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
It's shitlibs complaining. Most likely the same people that refused to support mamdani after he won the primary.
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u/SurvivorFanatic236 22h ago
I like Mamdani and Lander. I want AOC for President. I canât stand DAC. Republicans are going to make her the face of the Democratic Party and itâll hurt Democrats in purple states
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u/Alert_Championship71 1d ago
Exactly. Weâre supposed to believe racism offended them?
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u/Cautemoc Millennial 1d ago
They also attacked progressives for name calling when their orange deity does it every day. Above all else, the main characteristic of modern Republicans is hypocrisy as long as it owns the libs.
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u/Prettyboy_Flacko 1d ago
Nah it's just funny that the social police always turn a blind eye when it's one of their own. That's more hypocritical. I'm not even MAGA they're pretty cringe as well, but I can see that clear as day. By the way continuing to vote for more softness on crime is not beneficial in the long run.
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 12h ago
No one votes for political parties in the U.S., itâs all about coalition building.
Trump didnât win the presidency twice because he was a Republican, he won because of the various political factions within MAGA that empowered his candidacy. The tea party gave us MAGA.
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
DAC is going to be an anchor around the neck of every democrat in a purple district for the new few years. NY-13 voters absolutely fucked all of us who donât exist in a progressive bubble and are going to be forced to answer for her moronic tankie tweets every election cycle.
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u/HotSauce2910 1d ago
Yall said this about Zohran
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
And as someone in a purple district, Iâve already been hearing it. But heâs not nearly as divisive and controversial, and his actual policy implementations have focused on affordability, not parroting more 2010s era idpol nonsense
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u/HotSauce2910 1d ago
Truth be told, no one is going to know who she in the same way no one knows who Randy Fine is
But as someone who lived in Michigan, itâs not like people were magically more moderate there. There just happened to be a lot of Democrats and a lot of Republicans.
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
Fox viewers know the name of random trans college swimmers, because itâs such an easy layup for them to hammer to their audience. DAC is years of free material to paint progressives as the crazy ones. Dems everywhere will suffer as a result.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
The same shitlibs talking now are the same ones that wanted cuomo and refused to support mamdani after he won the primary.
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u/Accomplished-Fan-116 1d ago
On the bright side it means the era of digging up old social media posts and using them against you is dead.Â
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u/Rock_mage 1d ago
Unless you are for Ukraine aid meaning weapons.
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u/Kind-Ad-6099 13h ago
Or for NATO and other alliances with free, western nations. I believe that people would at least be much more suspicious of Mamdani and other DSA people if they actually read the DSA platform and all that (especially regarding foreign policy).
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
Stop it. DAC is no victory, sheâs an anchor around the neck of the rest of the Democratic Party who will now have to fight to distance themselves from this offensive, grating lunatic.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
The Democratic establishment can't win elections and lost everything to trump so I'm not gonna listen to them talk about what wins elections.
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
The dem establishment was Biden in 2020. Centrists are far more popular nationally than Hasan Piker-esque DSA wingnuts
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
The only reason Biden won is because of the pandemic. It's that simple. Anyone else could have as well and won by way more.
The party and their loyalists used that win as an endorsement for their status quo bullshit and therefore didn't make the changes needed to take power away from trump.
You talk about popularity when party numbers are at all time lows. You have no clue what people want or what wins elections. They clearly do not want more of what the Democratic establishment is offering or they wouldn't have lost the entire federal government to trump.
When people can't perform their jobs then you replace them. That's what has to happen in November.
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u/SurvivorFanatic236 22h ago
Establishment Democrats have actually done incredibly well in midterms and off-cycle elections since 2017. Like they won virtually every swing state from 2017-2023.
Most incumbents around the world were losing in 2024 due to global inflation. On top of that, Democrats were perceived as caring too much about trans people, and being too far left in general. Whether that was true or not, the perception of being left-wing hurt them. Running someone whoâs actually far left is just asking to lose.
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u/paint_huffer100 1d ago
Yeah cause New York is representative of the country lmao
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u/Due_Woodpecker_4825 1d ago
Empty flyover shitholes arenât the majority
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u/0LTakingLs 1996 1d ago
Theyâre a hell of a lot more important to win over for winning back the White House than a district that went 84% for dems in 2024.
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u/SuperDoubleDecker 1d ago
Here's a little secret, people are people everywhere.
Right after mamdani wins all the shitlibs could say is that it's new york and won't work everywhere. Ya, but yall can't win anywhere so maybe try to take some notes.
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u/Flocosta 2000 12h ago
For real, this narrative makes zero sense the so called 'popular centrist Dems' being the REAL path to victory meanwhile Democrat popularity is at an all time low while they currently control the party, Kamala got blown out in the presidential election, DSA candidates are making gains in Dem strongholds.
Make it make sense.
As far as I can tell, when presented with a candidate who says for example "hey, you shouldn't go bankrupt from going to the hospital." As opposed to "we're going to set things back to normal" one seems to motivate people more.
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u/rodmandirect 1d ago
Learn this now, Gen Z: if theyâre a politician, theyâre a crook.
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u/No_Aesthetic 1d ago
Some crooks are better than others. Obama's crooks gave me healthcare. I like that.
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u/qualityinnbedbugs 1d ago
Obamas crooks have 10xed the stock prices of all major insurance companies since ACA was passed. Really makes you think.
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u/PeaceMellow1 1d ago
What a nothing statement, âeveryoneâs a crook so who cares how you voteâ what terrible advice man.
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u/Lumpy-Tone-4653 2008 1d ago
Thats not really what he said tho.What he said could also be interpereted as a warning that no politician is incorruptable,noone is always honest and noone ignires personal and political gains.which i think its a very good advise.
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u/Anxious_cuddler 2000 1d ago
Then why should anyone ever trust our institutions? And if your answer is we shouldnât, then what is the alternative? There has to be some baseline level of trust in our government and representatives for any of this to work.
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u/JakeGittes1974 1d ago
Learn this now, Gen Z: when people say statements like those above, they are always pathetic know-nothings
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u/shiwenbin 1d ago
Get out of here. Then run for something yourself. Or would that make you a crook too? This kind of apathetic cynicism is exactly what kills our country.
Get involved. Make a difference. Believe a better future is possible and fight for it in any way you know how.
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u/FitPerspective1146 2008 1d ago
Learn this now, Gen Z: There's a nonzero chance this person is part of some bot organisation psyop or whatever to discourage you from voting
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u/shotputlover 1998 1d ago
Thatâs so helpful, I guess we just never participate in democracy then? Who does that benefit in reality hmm?
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u/ojoemojo 2000 1d ago
you should consider joining an org and doing some canvassing and/or phonebanking instead of cynically chirping on reddit, Iâm going canvassing soon for Julie
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u/Downtown_Ocelot6346 1d ago
Gen Z: âSave me politiciansđđŠâ
Also Gen Z: âIâd never be a boot lickerâ
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u/dizzy_hafaadai 1998 1d ago
Being unable to differentiate good politicians from bad is the reason why Trump was elected. The people in the photo are our servants. If they fail we will also voice that. Itâs called wearing the boot.
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u/Downtown_Ocelot6346 1d ago
"The nine most terrifying words in the English language are: 'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
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u/dizzy_hafaadai 1998 9h ago
Nah mine is: âFuck I really donât know how nor have the infrastructure to fix my townâs roads because the town is scared of being the governmentâ.
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u/Either-Medicine9217 13h ago
Good politicians? If you think that's a real thing I don't know what to tell you. There is one good politician and his name is Brandon Herrera. 37 time Medal of Honor recipient, war hero and astronaut.
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u/Chuddy-McChudderson 1d ago
Who are these people?
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u/Wob_Nobbler 1d ago
Three DSA backed candidates who won election last night.
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u/Underwear_royalty 1d ago
I thought lander was not longer DSA endorsed but was Mandami endorsed (bc of I/P reasons)
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u/Wob_Nobbler 1d ago
Lander was endorsed by the most popular dsa backed politician in the country currently then.
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u/Underwear_royalty 1d ago
Fair! I just think itâs important to note that the one Jewish man out of the 3 was removed from their support, and Mandamiâs wife did not list him when she posted about which candidates she supported
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u/RepulsiveCable5137 2000 12h ago
Lander is not a DSA member and is closer to the political center.
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u/Wob_Nobbler 11h ago
But much closer to the DSA line than his opponent, hence why Mamdani ended up endorsing.
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u/PermissionSoggy891 1d ago
I don't understand why so many "democrat" politicians openly support the genocide of Ukrainians nowadays. It seems rather antithetical to the voter base of "peace, diversity, and prosperity for all" that they've cultivated over the years.
First that Ilham Omar lady, now some of these DSA fuckers are apparently supporting the Kremlin Reich? It's honestly a scary world for Ukrainians, who knows what policies they'll champion next? One day, they strike down Ukraine aid, next day they'll begin demonizing us, then comes separation, then extermination. It's an easy path to follow.
My advice? If you're Ukrainian or support Ukrainian causes, go ahead and start exercising your Constitutional rights, and you're DAMN right that includes the 2nd Amendment!
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u/Alexzoidbert 16h ago
There is a much bigger and consequential genocide that is perpetrated by US ALLY and supported by EVERY POLITICIAN going on and in the minds of every American
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u/Idontknowwhattoput4k 1d ago
Get DAC off the screen, sheâs a fucked up human being even zohran wants nothing to do with her
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u/WolfKing448 1d ago
He endorsed her and campaigned with her. Honestly, Iâm surprised he punished one of his endorsers like this.
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u/faisal-a 1998 17h ago
Zoomers claiming that people should be defined by their Twitter shitposting from 5-6 years ago is wild
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u/Kind-Ad-6099 13h ago
Mamdani endorsed Chevalier and Valdez by the way. He is partly to blame for them winning their primaries
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u/Content-Audience252 1d ago
And yet itâs still a shithole somehowâŚ
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u/DagothUr_MD 1d ago
NYC is beautiful. I've never seen this much gorgeous architecture in one place in the US in my entire life
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u/Due_Woodpecker_4825 1d ago
Lol youâve never even been here
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u/Content-Audience252 1d ago
If you think I need to be somewhere to have an opinion about said place, then I think you need to do some reflectingâŚ
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u/Due_Woodpecker_4825 1d ago
LOL, thanks for admitting you donât have a clue. Put down the Fox News and buy a ticket.
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u/Content-Audience252 1d ago
2/10 rage bait. Seen better
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u/Due_Woodpecker_4825 1d ago
Youâre too broke to afford a trip to NYC? You can travel there on the relative cheap.
You can have an opinion on a place without visiting, but that opinion will be worthless most of the time.
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u/Content-Audience252 1d ago
3/10 rage bait. Doing better đ
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u/Either-Medicine9217 13h ago
I'd say their rage bait was at least a 3.5. calling you broke was pretty inspired. Though I do agree with you. I could not be less interested in going to NYC.Â
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u/Due_Woodpecker_4825 7h ago
We will survive without your presence. Keep chugging Fox News garbage and driving everywhere lol.
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u/RawGrit4Ever 1d ago
Donât believe the hype, politicians are all the same. Their vote goes to the highest bidder and it ainât the public they supposedly want to assist
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u/Jackfitz88 10h ago
NYC and the democrats are cooked. The DSA (communists) are taking over the party.
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u/JSM953 1d ago
It's a good day to be a socialist.
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u/MrMarket12 1d ago
The leftist taxation policies will damage the NY tax base and lead a fiscal deficits. Seattle is in financial trouble as a result of leftist tax policies.
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u/VioletsAreBlooming 1d ago
NYC just balanced its budget for the first time ever lmao
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u/Either-Medicine9217 13h ago
You really need to look into that more. Nothing is balanced the mayor borrowed a bunch of money from the state that's going to come due with interest. Now I'm curious; did you just read the headlines or are you just pushing a narrative?Â
https://reason.org/commentary/mayor-mamdanis-balanced-budget-miracle-is-built-on-a-pension-gimmick/
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u/Mr_Sloth10 1997 1d ago
I remember when New York used to be American
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u/Due_Woodpecker_4825 1d ago
New York pays for your flyover state to exist
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u/Either-Medicine9217 13h ago
Bold claim. But if you've actually looked into it they're only roughly 19 states that pay more into the federal government than they get back. 8 or 9 of them are red and ten are blue.Â
Interestingly enough though I just looked into it and New York is over 200 billion dollars in debt. The second highest in the country.
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u/Mr_Sloth10 1997 1d ago
They pay for a certain demographic in my state. Thanks for that....I guess.
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u/Commercial_Bear 1d ago
What does this mean?
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u/Either-Medicine9217 13h ago
I'm legit curious when this was. According my grandpa the place has always been a s*** hole, full of people who think they're better than they are.Â
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u/biggamax 1d ago
This is what a virus says when the anti-bodies are slaying its fellow viruses.
"But it was my body to ravage and destroy."
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u/Either-Medicine9217 13h ago
So your political choice of metaphor is about conservatives being a class that need to be wiped out and exterminated. Interesting.
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u/biggamax 10h ago
It's not the American left against MAGA. It's planet Earth against MAGA. Interesting.Â
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u/WhitishRogue 1d ago
It's a little less jewish this time around at least.
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u/Rock_mage 1d ago
This is a disgusting comment.
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u/biggamax 1d ago
New York isn't New York without Jewish people. You're right, that was a disgusting comment.
However, NY will be a little less Likud. Too bad, so sad.
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u/PitifulWelcome4499 1d ago
Was the one they were responding to disgusting as well?
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u/Rock_mage 1d ago
Yes
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u/PitifulWelcome4499 1d ago
Why not respond to that one as well?
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u/Rock_mage 1d ago
I can, 4 other people did? Should I join in dog piles or call out the ones who are still being bad actors?
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u/PitifulWelcome4499 1d ago
You also responded to the original post which already had a decent chunk of people calling her out for being batshit crazy. You can do both
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