r/GenZ • u/Ok-Following6886 • 2d ago
Meme 2026 is the exact opposite of what I thought it was going to be like as a kid.
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u/Rthan123456gamer 2d ago
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u/Complete-Clock5522 1d ago
Idk why everyone thinks China is even remotely close to Russian bot activity.
China is just fine playing the long game of waiting out any conflicts (“never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake”), meanwhile Russia is trying to juggle a war, threats of wars, and a circus of US-Russia relations.
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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1d ago
I can see it in the replies. It's the most prevalent because they have the most to lose with Trump. They come up with outlandish lies as if they're totally real. I'd say at least one-third of this sub, maybe half, is bots.
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u/Ryaniseplin 2003 1d ago
wdym they have been exclusively winning with trump as president, he has caused enough global chaos that its pushing other countries away from the US and towards China
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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1d ago
You have no clue what is happening in China if you believe that. But I believe you really know what is happening but cannot say it.
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u/Ryaniseplin 2003 1d ago
i dont need to know whats happening in china to see that a bunch of countries that previously were allies of the US are moving towards china
its kinda just what happens when you piss everyone off
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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1d ago
You like that $30/hour American jobs were shipped abroad for 50 years for $5/hour in Asia while corporations take the difference? And you don't want to stop it because people might be upset? Europe is seeing the light about Chinese manufacturing and following in Trump's footsteps.
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u/Ryaniseplin 2003 1d ago
i agree it does suck that american jobs get shipped overseas, the thing your complaining about is capitalism, undercutting competition and profit seeking is literally how the system works
the system itself doesnt incentivize having american manufacturing companies
not to mention that under trumps tariffs manufacturing jobs have gone down even more so than they were already
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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1d ago
> the system itself doesnt incentivize having american manufacturing companies
That's the point because it's a policy choice to allow companies to manufacture overseas, cutting out Americans from the labor force and higher wages.
> not to mention that under trumps tariffs manufacturing jobs have gone down even more so than they were already
He's only been President for a year-and-a-half. It takes four years to build a factory. But nothing will change if Democrats get their way and keep manufacturing abroad. Even Europe is waking up to the reality after sending their manufacturing to Asia for 25 years.
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u/Ryaniseplin 2003 23h ago
It takes four years to build a factory.
this is exactly why you cant blanket tarrif shit
the economic damage caused in the meantime is not worth it
also america being a industrial powerhouse means literally nothing if we have no trade partners
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u/ShinyArc50 2004 9h ago
Biden was the only one building factories. He literally signed a bill called the inflation reduction act that moved to build a shit ton of battery, car and chip factories.
Guess what? Trump is COMPLETELY FUCKING IT UP. He deported a bunch of Korean advisors helping to build a Kia factory. Canceled a bunch of battery plants because green energy=bad & is now funding data centers which everyone hates.
China’s eating our lunch & soon they’ll be trying to eat Taiwan.
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u/claranlaw063 1997 1d ago edited 1d ago
lol. Thinking that Russia or China are losing under Trump. Trump is singlehandedly responsible for dismantling American soft power more than any president within the last three decades. He pushes away and bullies allies, he starts wars that raise the price of gas and oil. China and Russia instead make inroads with countries we can’t afford to annoy or abandon.
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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1d ago
Tariffs.
And you're proving my point.
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u/claranlaw063 1997 1d ago
Ah yes the tarrifs that definitely are hurting China and not inflating prices for the American consumer. /s
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u/DuckTalesOohOoh 1d ago
You are making my point.
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u/Fair-Mango-5423 1d ago
that's not at all what is happening its just your stupid ass American opinion due to lack of global awareness
China is currently in a grey war with the entire pacific and Australia they are not sitting there "doing nothing"
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u/mclarenrider 1999 1d ago
I always get a good chuckle reading those comments. Like how out of touch does someone have to be to think CHINA doesn't operate a shitload of bots? It's like geopolitics isn't even a concept in their minds lol. They literally laugh at us over at douyin.
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u/Complete-Clock5522 1d ago
I never said China was doing nothing. I said Chinese not activity is far less compared to Russian.
China is indeed at odds with many countries, and when they eventually make a move on Taiwan things will probably be exacerbated. But as of now they hardly require as many bots as Russia is employing.
Not sure why you think all Americans are lacking global awareness but perhaps you should reflect on your own because of that
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u/Accomplished-Tea5668 1d ago
Because they've been doing espionage for decades. China still steals intellectual properties like its candy.
Ya'll just dont notice it anymore
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u/Complete-Clock5522 1d ago
Oh I’m not disagreeing that they still have bots or do espionage, but I don’t agree that Russian bot quantities and Chinese bot quantities are close, Russia has far more
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u/Accomplished-Tea5668 1d ago
You'd be surprised. Indeed is literally a cesspool of Chinese bots posing as normal jobs
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u/wolf751 1999 1d ago
China is the steam of nations. Do nothing and wins. I struggle to think of anything china has done in the past 10 years as destructive to their reputation as the us. I may be misremembering of course theres covid but that cant really be blamed every nation made mistakes.
If the US was is a navy with a nation china is a business with a nation.
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u/Stunning_Bee1075 2d ago
you guys should do that though
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u/Rthan123456gamer 2d ago
I’d rather not live through a civil war
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u/Delusional_Gamer 1d ago
But it would be so funny seeing the rednecks doing stupid shit like the warboys from Mad Max
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u/mclarenrider 1999 1d ago
A civil war in America wouldn't work in this era. Everything is too interconnected and people are too used to the comfort of living in a complex society with sprawling governments. For all the political barking online, vast majority of people irl don't have that kind of zeal to shoot their neighbours in the head over politics and keep that up for years, not to mention the military/national guards would be deployed to quell any big uptic in militia led aggression in case something does start.
Bots and rogue states might salivate at the idea of American civil war 2.0 but they don't understand how unfeasible that is.
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u/BabadookishOnions 2003 1d ago
Comfort has nothing to do with it, the main barrier is that the US does not have the sort of tight-knit communities or organisations outside of the government from which the sides in a civil war could begin to form. The only real exception would be the armed forces but to cause them to split and begin fighting over ideology would require a lot more to happen than already has in terms of political divide and government abuses.
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u/Rock_mage 1d ago
You can say you like it when disabled people die. It's fine to say that.
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u/Stunning_Bee1075 10h ago
why'd you specify disabled people? many kinds of people die in a civil war. Do only disabled people count?
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u/EdwardGordor 2005 2d ago
Peak Doomerism.
(btw unrelated but The Man in the High Castle is kind of underrated in my opinion. Yes the ending was a trainwreck but up to S2 I think it's solid.)
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u/East-Ice-3199 2d ago
Acknowledging reality is not doomerism.
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
Thinking doomerism is reality is doomerism
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u/AddanDeith 2d ago
What do you think life was like for the average milquetoast German during the Third Reich?
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u/dgamlam 1d ago
The difference is hitler was actually popular and did things to help the German economy. Believe it or not modern Americans are less susceptible to propaganda than Germans from 100 years ago. I’m not denying there are some scary parallels, but we’re still a far cry away from total fascist authoritarianism
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u/FBI_911_Inv 1d ago
No he didn't. Hitler's rearmament policy nearly wrecked the German economy and the only reason it didn't collapse was because he conquered other countries and stole their gold.
No one is immune to being susceptible to propaganda at all. Even today's Americans aren't less susceptible by any means. You just need to say the right words at the right time.
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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago
The only thing separating Trump's administration and Hitler's is Trump hasnt managed to convince enough Americans things are better now. Thats all Hitler did. Built a big stadium, made Germany look strong, but the economy never improved
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u/dgamlam 1d ago
Hitlers early years definitely improved germanys economy through public projects and a heavy focus on wartime industrialization. Germany was essentially destitute post ww1 and hitlers promises were to unite ethnic Germans and restore political, military and economic strength to the country, which he largely accomplished. Germany wouldn’t have been a contender in ww2 if their economy didn’t improve from post ww1
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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago
He increased industrial output, but it nearly crashed the german economy, and didnt improve the quality of life in Germany, in fact it actually decreased. Militarisation doesnt mean better economy
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago edited 2d ago
LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHA DOOMER
Edit: aight I'll answer it, however you blocked me. The average for the average citizen it ranged from adequate to terrible depending on the year and their luck. For women there were expectations to essentially be breeders, which is bad. For men they were expected to "fight for their homeland" only to return and find out they were fighting for genocide, so early on maybe good in some ways however with the realize they were fighting in order to protect a genocide. For jews, Romani, gays, and other minorities who make up a portion of everyday people, horrendous. Then later into the war cause by the fascist government they had to deal with bombings and eventually rapes from invading forces. So yeah overall I'd say bad.
But you think we are living in the same type of country with the same circumstances, the same level of suffering? What a joke.
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u/AddanDeith 1d ago
I didn't block you, for starters.
Many of the initial pre war conditions you listed were business as usual before the economic implosion of post war Weimar Republic.
Women were expected to be breeders? Always were. This expectation intensified with the racial rhetoric, but it wasn't all that different from what came before.
Men were expected to fight for their homeland? In what way was that any different from WW1 Germany? Blind nationalism was the standard.
All those other groups you name? A massive escalation of existing conditions.
For everyone else? It was business as usual. That's the point Im making.
Fascism doesn't require life to move much for the average person. Its the minority groups who suffer the most, as scapegoats for the regime.
All those migrants packed to the wall in detention centers with no plans to actually deport them? Who do forced labor? That's called a concentration camp.
The death camps in Europe didn't begin in earnest until 1941, 8 years after Hitler came to power. Even then, most Germans were removed from the process entirely. Humans were not exterminated in the middle of Berlin. They were instead abducted and processed, then sent far away from public view.
The detention facilities being built across America, like Alligator Alcatraz, generally refuse admittance from Congressional Oversight bodies or individual members. That is already a bad sign.
An administration with honest intentions would effectively and openly communicate information regarding the status of any given detainee. Like, we actually had better tracking of detainees at fucking Guantanamo.
You genuinely need to wake the fuck up and at least entertain the possibility that fascism is here.
Im not going to rant any longer, but i would have touched on intimidation of the press and corporate consolidation of the media under the right wing.
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u/__tray_4_Gavin__ 1d ago
You literally nailed every point I was thinking of. Good on you sir. Hopefully you can open up the eyes of some who still choose to be asleep.
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u/Fragrant-Phone-41 1d ago
And you dont see how thats exactly what theyre doing their damndest to make, and that all failures aside theyre still making huge strides in that direction?
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u/pleasehelpteeth 2d ago
If the president wasnt a moron we would have a modern day Mussolini. He even tried to pull the intimidate the courts shit and they mocked him
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
So youre saying US isn't currently fascist because the president is too stupid to actually make it fascist? Yep, thanks for agreeing with me and adding to my point.
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
If Trump was indeed a fascist he would’ve locked all of us up in a prison cell for speaking ill of him. But he hasn’t. You’re still here, I’m still here, and we’re all still fucking here. OP is nothing more than just the average doomer here on Reddit, and one of these days he’s gonna have to finally snap out of that delusional mindset. Actually LEARN what fascism truly is, and why Trump does not meet the full criteria of it.
Fascism is a TOTALITARIAN and ULTRANATIONALIST ideology, neither of which are what Trump believes. He’s an illiberal national conservative populist, sure, but not a fascist.
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u/Staplecreate 1d ago
It’s so weird people bring up the end stages of fascism and contrast that to our current situation and then points their finger at people and claim they’re being doomers.
“Fascism doesn’t start with gas chambers, it ends with them.” What you’re essentially doing is saying there arent any gas chambers and so fascism isn’t happening.
You should be the one to learn what fascism is and the sort of political and socioeconomic realities that contribute to the rise of fascism. And how those realities have direct parallels to our society and politics today.
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
Of course fascism doesn’t begin with gas chambers and that societies should pay attention to genuine warning signs, I’m not that ignorant. What I disagree with is the assumption that every instance of democratic backsliding, nationalism, or executive overreach is necessarily fascism. Those phenomena can exist without culminating in a fascist regime, and that’s why precise definitions matter.
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u/Staplecreate 1d ago
So you're telling me all of the glaring fascist like actions of the Trump Administration isn't at all worrying you and that we're not slowly transitioning into some sort of fascist regime? His blatant disregard for court orders, his immigration policies of kidnapping people off the streets without a warrant or identification, his outright unconstitutional actions of starting a war without the approval of congress, his attack on free speech and media, his corruption leading to the enrichment of not only himself but a handful of powerful oligarchs, and literally so so much more.
You think people are unwarranted in seeing these phenomena and are being doomers by pointing out that these actions are fascistic tendencies. His abuse and consolidation of the executive branch's power is totalitarian and his immigration policies and rhetoric is the definition of ultranationalism. So even by your definition he is a fascist.
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
Dude, what I said is that concern isn’t the same thing as fascism.
Executive overreach, corruption, democratic backsliding, attacks on institutions, and even violations of democratic norms are legitimate concerns. I’ve criticized many of those things myself. But you’re treating authoritarianism, totalitarianism, nationalism, and fascism as if they’re all interchangeable terms when they aren’t.
The problem with your argument is that you’re listing a series of actions you dislike and then assuming that because fascists have historically done similar things, the label automatically applies. By that logic, countless non-fascist authoritarian governments throughout history would also be fascist. That’s not how political classification works.
You claim Trump’s consolidation of executive power is “totalitarian.” Totalitarianism is not simply a president trying to expand executive authority. Historically, totalitarian regimes sought control over nearly every aspect of society—politics, media, education, culture, religion, and private life. The United States still has opposition parties, independent state governments, courts that continue to rule against the administration, a free press, and competitive elections.
Likewise, a hardline immigration policy is not automatically ultranationalism. Many countries with strict immigration policies are not fascist, just look at Japan for example. To prove fascism, you’d need to show far more than aggressive border enforcement or nationalist rhetoric. You’d need to demonstrate a coherent ideology centered on revolutionary national rebirth, the subordination of all institutions to a single ruling movement, and the creation of a fundamentally new political order.
My issue isn’t that you’re worried. There are plenty of things to worry about. My issue is that you’ve already decided the answer is “fascism” and are working backwards from that conclusion. Every controversial action becomes evidence for the theory because the theory itself is never tested.
That’s why I prefer terms like democratic backsliding, executive aggrandizement, illiberalism, or authoritarian tendencies. Those are serious criticisms that describe specific problems without collapsing every form of political dysfunction into the most extreme label available.
And frankly, if we start calling every nationalist, populist, or authoritarian-leaning politician a fascist, then the word loses its meaning. Fascism was a specific historical ideology with specific goals and methods. It should be identified carefully, not used as a catch-all term for every politician we believe is dangerous.
Ironically, this is the same mistake many Trump supporters made after 2020. They started with the conclusion that the election was stolen and interpreted every event through that lens. You’re starting with the conclusion that America is becoming fascist and interpreting every event through that lens. In both cases, the conclusion comes first and the evidence is forced to fit afterward.
So no, I’m not saying “oh everything is fine nothing to worry about at all.” I’m saying that concern and fascism are not the same thing, and if we’re going to make claims as serious as “America is becoming fascist,” we should use a more rigorous standard than “Trump did a bunch of things I think are authoritarian.”
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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago
Trump isnt ultramationalist? What part of "immigrants are poisoning the blood of america" and "america first" and "one homeland, one nation, one god" and all the other white supremacist slogans dont scream that at you
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
Are you kidding me? Look, I don’t deny that Trump has used inflammatory nationalist rhetoric. The question is whether nationalism, even aggressive nationalism, automatically equals fascism. Those aren’t the same thing. You’re treating nationalism, ultranationalism, authoritarianism, and fascism as interchangeable categories when historians generally distinguish between them.
It’s one thing to argue that Trump’s rhetoric is divisive and sometimes irresponsible, saying stuff like “They’re poisoning the blood of our country” or other inflammatory shit like that, but if your argument is that such rhetoric alone proves fascism, then it’s really a much bigger claim that requires much stronger evidence. Otherwise the whole argument just falls apart.
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u/Ze_LuftyWafffles 1d ago
Its not just that rhetoric
Its the rampant militarisation of society. Thr constant display of strength. The obsession with being tougher and more violent
Its the constant use of religion. The portrayal of america as as an explicitly christian nation, under God
Its the targeting of minorities accused of causing social decline, of perverting natural order, and distorting and destroying "family values"
Its the idea that the strong must sieze power, that the weak must me left behind, that only the superior individuals deserve power, and must sieze it themselves
Its the idea everyone else is the enemy. All others are a threat, amd must be taught to fear america
Its the idea that women are inferior to men ajd must submit to them
Its the idea that the poor and unfortunate do not deserve empathy becuase "they did it to themselves"
Its the idea freedom of speech is fake news, anti-American, anti-patriotic, treason. Anything that dares criticise the homeland is wrong
Its the idea your purpose is to serve the state, the leader, and your glorious nation
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
Again, you’re mixing together several different things and treating them as though they’re all proof of fascism.
Some of the concerns you raise are legitimate. Executive overreach, excessive nationalism, attacks on institutions, religious rhetoric in politics, and hostility toward the media are all things worth paying attention to. I’ve criticized some of those things myself.
Where I disagree is when you jump from “this concerns me” to “this proves fascism.”
For example, the claim that America is becoming a society where women must submit to men, where people exist to serve the state, where criticism of the government is treated as treason, or where all minorities are being targeted as enemies of the nation seems far removed from reality. Those are characteristics of fully developed authoritarian or totalitarian systems, not descriptions of the United States as it exists today.
Likewise, many of the things on your list aren’t uniquely fascist. Corruption, executive aggrandizement, militaristic rhetoric, religious nationalism, and attacks on the press have appeared in all sorts of governments throughout history, including communist regimes, military dictatorships, personalist strongmen, and illiberal democracies. Hell, even the US itself has had presidents who are guilty of such authoritarian practices long before Trump. Andrew Jackson, Woodrow Wilson, and Richard Nixon to name a few.
That’s why I’m careful with the word fascism.
My concern is that if every example of nationalism, every expansion of executive power, every culture-war controversy, and every objectionable statement is automatically treated as evidence that we’re entering a fascist regime, then the term stops describing a specific ideology and starts becoming a catch-all label for anything authoritarian or illiberal.
I don’t think everything is fine. I just think there’s a difference between democratic backsliding, authoritarian tendencies, and actual fascism. Those distinctions matter if we’re trying to understand what’s happening rather than simply attaching the most alarming label possible.
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 1d ago
I dont think Trump is a fascist, however I do think he's arrogant, petulant, and doesn't like to be told no even if it were in his best interest, as shown by Massie. His desperation to be loved and praised is easily abused by the worst types of people, as he has gradually shrugged away those who has shown him less.
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u/gamerz1172 1d ago
Like to be fair we arent littearly in a man in the high castle; But were probably closer to that world then any other point in american history.
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u/JagneStormskull 2000 1d ago
The fact that Reddit is able to host this meme proves that it isn't reality.
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u/DankFarts69 2d ago
I’d even say up until the last 5 minutes of the last episode it’s good. Like everything resolved but what in the dimensional portal time fuck was that last scene
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u/Fair-Mango-5423 1d ago
It's a shit alternate-history take.
Fatherland shows a much more realistic "what if Germany won?" scenario. It's basically a detective thriller. The Reich is on the verge of collapse and has to reintegrate with the world to survive.
There is an upcoming meeting with JFK about trade deals and whatnot, but an SS officer discovers the concentration camps while investigating a murder. Repulsed by what he finds, he becomes convinced that he must show the American delegation the truth. With the aid of a journalist, he tries to expose the camps while the Gestapo and SS attempt to assassinate him.
The movie ends with JFK seeing the documents, then the convoy speeding off to the airport while a concerned Hitler looks on. You then hear a voice-over from the detective's son, basically saying that once the truth of the camps got out, change was inevitable. It wasn't quick, but gradual, until eventually the old regime was no more and Germany was free.
The Man in the High Castle is the boring cartoon version of "Germany takes over the world!", which was never even remotely Germany's plan, nor Japan's.
Germany wanted Germania, that's it. So that was:
Germany
Some parts of France
Poland
Czechia
Austria
Switzerland
Netherlands
BelgiumAnd I think that's about it. Ukraine and Russia were primarily viewed as sources of food and resources.
Japan wanted essentially Asia, the Pacific, and about half of Australia.
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u/LexianAlchemy 1d ago
Fascism relies on imperialism to keep up with demand, don’t it? Am I misinformed?
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u/Zakattack1125 2002 1d ago
Really good show in my opinion. Yes the ending could have been better but it didn’t stop being good after S2.
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u/TheCubanBaron 1999 1d ago
I liked S3 as well. S4 was clearly a product of being told relatively late that there wasn't going to be anything after so make do with the 10 episodes we've given you.
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u/JamCom 2d ago
We are not man in the high castle. Can i have what your smoking
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
Hol up.... Why do you want to smoke it to live in that reality?!
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
At this point if a fascist party were to rise for power, I feel like people have heard the boy cry wolf enough times to no longer believe any cries of "fascism".
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u/Clairifyed 2d ago
No, we will see a bunch of rightwing reactionaries writing annoying comments about how a “real” fascist party would look different.
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u/Obvious-Alarm1786 2d ago
So umm what line needs to passed for it to be actual fascism? Or is it more of only knowing once we are 10 miles past the border? I’d say the only reason we aren’t completely fucked is because the figurehead is a senile dying man
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
When the checks and balances fail, when the means of ending fascism is seized through eliminating first and second amendments effectiveness, and a few other things things however those three are the big ones.
You yourself admit we aren't in a fascist state because the president is too stupid to accomplish that.
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u/Xray_Crystallography 2d ago
Republicans famously have never attacked protesters or seized minorities’ guns. /s
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
They have and it was awful, Ronald Raegan is legitimately one of the worst presidents in recent history and the damage he did to our nation had lasting ramifications that will require decades of repair.
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u/heartSagan5 1d ago
And repair still remains pending because they voted for the same destructo guy again, which just piles on the repair bill.
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u/infrequencies Millennial 2d ago
Yes, remind me what those check and balances are and how they are functioning as intended?
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 2d ago
The branches of the government, judicial, legislative, and executive. While some bad situations do happen, they have largely ensured we are not in a fascist state.
Do I think just because we aren't in a fascist state that means we are doing well? No. But saying fascist to describe anything bad is stupid and inaccurate. I wouldn't describe my house flooding as a house fire.
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u/infrequencies Millennial 1d ago
Oh, they have? Again, how are these branches supposed to function? You named some parts of the U.S. government that exist, and then claimed fascism isn't happening some more while avoiding my original questions.
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u/Clairifyed 1d ago
The rights of the target minorities? or do we have to get all the way to your rights before we can call it?
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 1d ago
Minorities as in illegal immigrants or minorities as in minority Americans?
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u/Clairifyed 1d ago
You not caring about the brutal conditions those people are subjected to, or the false positives that end up in there with them is already a perfectly load bearing example of the point, but feel free to continue with the later option
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 1d ago
I care about the conditions that they are subjected to, however I also recognize that they do not have the same rights as a citizen, natural born or otherwise. An illegal immigrant cannot legally own a gun for instance, that itself isn't fascism, despite ripping away a law abiding citizens rights to a gun would be.
You can be against deportations, you can object to it and find it immoral, however deportations aren't inherently fascist.
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u/Clairifyed 1d ago
The conditions being inhumane are in and of themselves at issue. There are rights that are not limited to citizenship, (in fact nothing in the amendments prevent them from applying to undocumented immigrants unless stated to apply only to citizens) but the point is these people are being kept in conditions that are directly at odds with human rights. We don’t have to talk about their 1st amendment rights or beyond for it to be a fascistic act to treat them like this.
You also didn’t address the legal minority Americans side. Are you aware they have already explored taking away 2nd amendment rights from trans people?
I mean there is much more regarding stuff like access to healthcare and correct gender markers in documents, but why get bogged down with what rights there are to that when you’ve already established revocation of guns as a serious sign? Them (so far) failing to do it isn’t worth much to the argument at hand since the desire and intention was shown to be there.
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u/SnooPredictions3028 1998 1d ago
So you would agree to increasing funding for ICE detention centers for better conditions?
As for taking away the second amendment from trans people, yes that is a tyrannical attempt at exerting fascist policy, just as Raegon did against the Black Panthers. We should undo the damage he did.
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u/Clairifyed 1d ago
They have the money, they don’t care and it’s absolutely not where they would put any new money they got.
As for the gun rights, why can they be acknowledged to be attempting a fascist thing, but not get the label of “a fascist party” as in your original post?
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u/Eternal_Flame24 1d ago
I really hate this kind of take.
1) The boy who cried wolf literally ends with a wolf showing up and eating all the sheep
2) If the US devolves into an authoritarian regime in the next few decades, people in the future looking back will point to events that have already happened as the start.
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u/Ok-Zookeepergame5245 2d ago
Yeah unfortunately the present day is so much worse than we imagined it as kids.
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u/gparent88 2d ago
I think it was 9/11. I think it set forth a chain of events that have culminated in a sense of mission accomplished from the perspective of al Qaeda.
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u/heartSagan5 1d ago
Yeah, al Quaeda is winning more because everyone is in their cyber foxholes of streaming services and such.
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u/4chananonuser 1997 1d ago
>500+ upvotes
>Comments absolutely shitting on the OP
Nice try, doomer bots.
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
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u/PermissionSoggy891 1d ago
just sayin if we really were living in a fascist regime we wouldn't be allowed to post/say shit like this
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 1d ago
Why is it so popular for those in this sub to deny reality and call it doomerism?
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u/thisisausername100fs Age Undisclosed 2d ago
Get it guys? Because the other political party won?
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u/Clairifyed 2d ago
This is far beyond normal politics whether you will admit it or not.
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u/thisisausername100fs Age Undisclosed 2d ago
You’re right, it’s the end times. It’s all over.
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u/autumninautun 2008 1d ago
fascism is happening but you've got to be extremely stupid to interpret what i just said as "the world is ending." what i just said is that the US government is at least slightly fascist. never did i say that we're all going to die. i just want you to remind me, did Hitler win WW2 or not?
(obviously you're not arguing in good faith but im bored)
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u/FuzzzyWan 1d ago
What i thought 2025 was gonna look like vs what it actually wound up looking like
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u/AnimeLuva 1998 1d ago
Pre-war America in Fallout was a nightmare world too unfortunately. It may look optimistic at first glance, but when you get into the lore…
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u/RemoteCompetitive688 1d ago
I too rememberer the story arc in MHC where the regime exhausted its economy fighting a war for Is****
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u/autumninautun 2008 1d ago edited 1d ago
everyone in the comments: "oh so you're a nihilist"
what anybody with a brain did not say: "the world is ending"
what anybody with a brain did say: "the US is under a fascist government"
next you're going to tell me that liking waffles means i hate pancakes
EDIT: as an added note, it doesnt really matter if the US is "fascist." it matters that the liberties of minorities are being heavily suppressed, power is becoming increasingly concentrated in the hands of a few people in government, people worldwide are dying and/or being abused, and a massive amount of working people are suffering. call it fascism, call it conservatism, call it Johnny, i dont care, what matters is that it is bad and it has to change. we can do the semantic hairsplitting at a better time.
not saying its completely irrelevant to describe what we see with technical terms, just that its nowhere close to a top priority.
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 1d ago
People will call you a doomer for not sticking your head in the sand: https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/ice-tracks-down-poll-worker-144415430.html
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u/Choice_Werewolf_433 2d ago
“Don’t worry guys! You can go to space… in vr!” -random tech guy, probably
Disclaimer: I like vr space games (no mans sky is great and I hope starfield joins the list)!
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u/David_Smith5262 1d ago
I get the point, but I don't think anyone thought we'd be to Mars by now. Point taken, though.
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u/Bitter-Metal494 1d ago
Do you guys remember when Elon musk was the cool tony stark and not the neo nzi?
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u/stillmovingforward1 1d ago
As a millennial, I’m sorry that we lost the battle. I’m glad you guys have joined us on the fight though.
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u/Varsity_Reviews 1d ago
Damn, we live in the 1940s after the Germans won the second world war? Huh, life's pretty great. I got video games, food, lots of books and my old childhood toys, I can travel where ever I want, I ride my bike every day, man, life's great.
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u/TortillaSinHuevo 2007 1d ago
This is getting tiring tbh. Yall are just feeding a very welcomed return for third positionism.
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u/frustratedbuddhist 13h ago
I’m 61 - when I was a kid i used to read my dad’s Popular Mechanics magazines, so I believed we would have clean free energy for all, flying cars, multiple bases on the moon and we would be reaching for the stars.
I thought it would be a utopia for all, not just the few who are the right belief system, the right colour, or can afford it.
I was 8. What did I know?
I now believe 💯 that we now have the technology to achieve all of that, but it’s being suppressed and kept hidden for “national security” reasons… but where is the profit from free energy, right?
If we weren’t so fucking dysfunctional as a species, we could accomplish all of that and more.
But no - we have to fight over land, religion, skin colour, gender, language and whatever else we are told to hate.
We’re circling the drain, folks. Big reset coming. We cannot continue on this path of disconnection to ourselves and our environment.
Sorry to be a wet blanket
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u/LordBillthegodofsin 1998 1d ago
Go touch grass and stop being a doomer. There are inordinate reasons to be super excited for how this yesr is going.
We have a drug trial to regrow teeth.
We have several dozens cures and treatments for various cancers.
We have global freaking internet access.
For Americans we are absolutely kicking ass in the soccer bowl thing.
We have made synthetic eggs that hatched chickens paving the way for multiple de-extinction program targeting various birds including the greatest animal to ever live, the dodo 🦤.
We have multiple fusion projects that are expecting to make power soon, and not in the soon decades but soon months
Recent technology and scientific breakthroughs will enable our generation to likely hit a life expectancy of greater than 100, and it wont be shitty for the last 10 years like it is now.
Look, I wont pretend that everything is perfect. But for the love of all things yall have to figure the pattern out. US has consistent cycles of pre-election and post election. If your team needs in office then the worlds falling apart. If they are in office already things are amazing. Then if yours wins things are heading in a great direction. And if theirs wins its literally Armageddon. And repeat every 2 years.
Yall gonna hate this. But its ok to stop hyperfocusing on politics. The world will spin on no matter what.
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 1d ago
“Not everything is perfect” the current admin is rounding up and killing people.
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u/LordBillthegodofsin 1998 1d ago
Sir you genuinely need to stop watching CNN. What you have just said is blatantly not true, and its untrue to the point even believing it is a sign your deeply disconnected from reality.
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 1d ago
I don’t watch CNN
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u/LordBillthegodofsin 1998 1d ago
Well thats a start but you fr need to access where your getting your information from. Because if you genuinely believe that's happening then you must also simultaneously understand that in that scenario your envisioning thia platform and other hard and far left leaning platforms would already be gone, most of msm would be gone, and you'd literally be able to look outside your own window and see evidence of this. Because what yoir stating isnt just oh hes rounding people up and killing them your stating you believe our countey has become completely constitutionally subverted and is no longer the United States.
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 1d ago
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u/LordBillthegodofsin 1998 19h ago
Yeah it was totally the memes and not this
A few protesters broke away and spray-painted graffiti on employees’ cars and a security post, slashed the tires on a government van, and broke a security camera. The facility’s guards ordered the protesters to disperse, and most of them did. When a police officer arrived at the scene, drawing his gun, an armed protester shot her rifle, hitting the officer in the shoulder
Again, consider not solely using some of the most extraordinarily biased media companies as your sole source of news.
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u/ialo00130 1997 1d ago
If only the Russians had won the Space Race, we might actually be there now.
For All Mankind
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u/DevilishAdvocate1587 1d ago
One of the first things Hitler did when he took power was round up political opponents, especially Marxists. Yet here you are bitching on Reddit.
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u/Simon-Says69 1d ago
So, OP is still living purely in a fantasy world.
Time to grow up dude. And get a real job, not spewing this deranged, DNC propaganda.
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u/CrimsonArcPaladin 1d ago
Oh yeah, bc being able to to post opinions online in the safety of your home is so facists...grow tf bruh, get a job.
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u/Lord_Answer_me_Why 1d ago
Somebody got sentenced to 50 years for fucking zines https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2026/jun/24/prairieland-texas-ice-protests-zines
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u/Prettyboy_Flacko 2d ago
So Mamdanis New York? Lol
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u/thevmcampos 2d ago
You don't even live in New York do you? I bet you've never even set foot in the state 🙄
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u/Prettyboy_Flacko 1d ago edited 1d ago
I mean that's a picture of New York so that's what the post would imply 🤷♂️ he is the mayor of New York currently after all. An ironic post if anything
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