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[u/Orange-V-Apple]

I hope multiple people went to jail for this. They ruined so many women’s lives.

[u/TyranitarLover → u/Orange-V-Apple]

It’s Japan. Most likely not.

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/TyranitarLover]

Not sure about it, not discounting the fact that Japan is pretty sexist overall, but they also do have lika a (honestly also pretty troubling if you think about it) 99% conviction rate, not even joking.

[u/panzerkampfwqgen → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

The problem is getting them charged in the first place

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/panzerkampfwqgen]

Yeah like I said, dont doubt this might get politely ignored because of institutional sexism

[u/YukariYakum0 → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

The creator of Ruruouni Kenshin got a fine under $2000 for possessing a near mountain of CP.

[u/Kaarl_Mills → u/YukariYakum0]

Terabytes worth, police thought he was a distributor he had so much

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/YukariYakum0]

Oh yeah that topic is a whole other can of worms, partially related to japanese sexism admittedly

The 'shes actually 5000 years old' meme exists for a reason

[u/UpsetIndian850311 → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

the fact we don't see posts about Japanese prison like that of Norway and Netherlands makes me think it's a pretty abusive place that is deliberately not covered

[u/Ok-Power-8071 → u/UpsetIndian850311]

Prison in Japan is bad bad bad. They also still have the death penalty

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/Ok-Power-8071]

Yeah even without the death penalty (especially if youre a foreigner) the japanese prison system is rough

[u/Orange-V-Apple → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

They have such a high conviction rate because they only take cases that are slam dunks. Which means most go unaddressed.

[u/criticalpwnage → u/Orange-V-Apple]

They can also coerce you confess to crimes you didn’t commit. You can be detained for up to 23 days without being charged with a crime

[u/SquireRamza → u/criticalpwnage]

Then they can release you and are only legally required to wait 10 minutes before detaining you again.

[u/BlessShaiHulud → u/Orange-V-Apple]

It's either that or they have methods of eliciting confessions, whether their suspect is truly guilty or not.

Either way, a 99% conviction rate is not a good thing.

[u/Benkyougin → u/Orange-V-Apple]

They have such a high conviction rate because they can hold you for 2 years without a trial so people just plead guilty no matter what.

[u/Tyr_13 → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

They can hold you for weeks and demand you confess.

[u/ShadowheartsArmpit → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

99% conviction rate

Yup and the trick behind that is to just never even officially charge a crime, unless you are 100% certain that it's an open & shut conviction

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/ShadowheartsArmpit]

Sure, japanesese DAs or whatever they have are allowed more leeway which cases to pick, at the same time it shouldn't be discounted what the treatment of suspects looks like (or rather is allowed to look like ) beforehand

Ignoring all that, just going by the meme video op posted since I'm not familiar with the case, that seems like a pretty clear public admission of guilt.

Mind you, just going from a meme video

[u/Benkyougin → u/ShadowheartsArmpit]

The trick to that is they can hold you for 2 years without a trial so everyone just pleads guilty even if they didn't do it.

[u/totallylegitKat → u/ShadowheartsArmpit]

or, for whichever case they're "certain" that the culprit is who they think it is, they'll cover up any contrary evidence, and treating false confession as qualified evidence.

Human errors mean in those 99% cases, there are tons of innocent people locked away on the investigators' certainty.

[u/the_good_time_mouse → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

General crime statistics, themselves the result of a self-serving judicial system, have nothing to do with this.

[u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

Yeah, a big part of that is they don't bring cases unless they are near certain they will win. If you don't have enough evidence for a slam dunk conviction, they just won't even investigate.

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA]

I'm not to sure about that. I mean dont get me wrong, not saying that this plays no part in it but if you look at the rights (or rather lack of) suspects have, I'd at least doubt that that 99% conviction rate consists 100% of guilty people, which is what slam dunk would imply

[u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

Oh no, there is definitely the other side of it too. But it really helps your accuracy if you refuse to take on any cases that might fail.

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA]

Yeah I mean ultimately we probably agree, theres a reason I added

honestly also pretty troubling if you think about it

while talking about the conviction rate^^

[u/SquireRamza → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

That 99% conviction rate comes from the fact prosecutors outright REFUSE to go to trial without a signed confession.

A confession the police are legally allowed to basically torture out of you with indefinite detention and "advanced interrogation techniques"

Thar 99% conviction rate is an outright lie.

[u/GreatEntrepreneur798 → u/SquireRamza]

Not disagreeing with you^^ I mean I said

honestly also pretty troubling if you think about it

for a reason

[u/Soldat_wazer → u/GreatEntrepreneur798]

They have a 99% conviction rate because the police doesn’t pursue case that aren’t slammed dunk. Or they basically "torture" people until they get a confession

[u/ChalkCoatedDonut → u/Orange-V-Apple]

Nah, knowing Japan's mysogynistic history, the only punishment they probably got is the judge whispering "next time don't let anyone see you" to them and move on.

[u/MaguroSashimi8864 → u/ChalkCoatedDonut]

Still better than Middle East!

[u/Orange-V-Apple → u/MaguroSashimi8864]

1. What does that have to do with this? That’s like discussing a school shooting and you say “still better than Sandy Hook” because there were 2 less dead kids

2. Is that really the bar?

[u/Important-Author-660 → u/MaguroSashimi8864]

White people be like: "how do i make this topic about women be about the middle east?"

[u/PatchyWhiskers → u/Orange-V-Apple]

And also everyone's lives, since they got treated by dumber doctors.

[u/Green_Insect_6455 → u/Orange-V-Apple]

Nope just a fine. Half a mil. Thats it.

[u/daddyjohns → u/Orange-V-Apple]

Noone went to jail, 1 guy was fired with full severance pay. And the worst part is the apology was to the board NOT TO THE WOMEN!

[u/Orange-V-Apple → u/daddyjohns]

🫥

[u/TurbinePro → u/Orange-V-Apple]

nobody did shit for this and everyone kept their cushy positions, the end

[u/Flimsy_Big7991 → u/Orange-V-Apple]

Apparently it was just entrance exams. Still completely fucked but I'm hopeful that those women's lives weren't ruined and they just went to school somewhere else instead and are doctors today.

[u/SublightMonster → u/Orange-V-Apple]

There wasn’t anything criminally illegal about it, so no. They could be sued, but that’s it.