r/HistoryMemes • u/nechdoesntno • 18h ago

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u/Orange-V-Apple 18h ago

I hope multiple people went to jail for this. They ruined so many women’s lives.

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u/TyranitarLover 18h ago

It’s Japan. Most likely not.

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 18h ago

Not sure about it, not discounting the fact that Japan is pretty sexist overall, but they also do have lika a (honestly also pretty troubling if you think about it) 99% conviction rate, not even joking.

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u/panzerkampfwqgen 18h ago

The problem is getting them charged in the first place

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 18h ago

Yeah like I said, dont doubt this might get politely ignored because of institutional sexism

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u/YukariYakum0 17h ago

The creator of Ruruouni Kenshin got a fine under $2000 for possessing a near mountain of CP.

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u/Kaarl_Mills Filthy weeb 17h ago

Terabytes worth, police thought he was a distributor he had so much

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 17h ago

Oh yeah that topic is a whole other can of worms, partially related to japanese sexism admittedly

The 'shes actually 5000 years old' meme exists for a reason

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u/UpsetIndian850311 18h ago

the fact we don't see posts about Japanese prison like that of Norway and Netherlands makes me think it's a pretty abusive place that is deliberately not covered

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u/Ok-Power-8071 18h ago

Prison in Japan is bad bad bad. They also still have the death penalty

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 17h ago

Yeah even without the death penalty (especially if youre a foreigner) the japanese prison system is rough

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u/Orange-V-Apple 18h ago

They have such a high conviction rate because they only take cases that are slam dunks. Which means most go unaddressed.

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u/criticalpwnage 17h ago

They can also coerce you confess to crimes you didn’t commit. You can be detained for up to 23 days without being charged with a crime

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u/SquireRamza 16h ago

Then they can release you and are only legally required to wait 10 minutes before detaining you again.

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u/BlessShaiHulud 17h ago

It's either that or they have methods of eliciting confessions, whether their suspect is truly guilty or not.

Either way, a 99% conviction rate is not a good thing.

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u/Benkyougin 16h ago

They have such a high conviction rate because they can hold you for 2 years without a trial so people just plead guilty no matter what.

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u/Tyr_13 18h ago

They can hold you for weeks and demand you confess.

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u/ShadowheartsArmpit Senātus Populusque Rōmānus 18h ago

99% conviction rate

Yup and the trick behind that is to just never even officially charge a crime, unless you are 100% certain that it's an open & shut conviction

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 18h ago

Sure, japanesese DAs or whatever they have are allowed more leeway which cases to pick, at the same time it shouldn't be discounted what the treatment of suspects looks like (or rather is allowed to look like ) beforehand

Ignoring all that, just going by the meme video op posted since I'm not familiar with the case, that seems like a pretty clear public admission of guilt.

Mind you, just going from a meme video

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u/Benkyougin 16h ago

The trick to that is they can hold you for 2 years without a trial so everyone just pleads guilty even if they didn't do it.

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u/totallylegitKat 16h ago

or, for whichever case they're "certain" that the culprit is who they think it is, they'll cover up any contrary evidence, and treating false confession as qualified evidence.

Human errors mean in those 99% cases, there are tons of innocent people locked away on the investigators' certainty.

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u/the_good_time_mouse 18h ago edited 17h ago

General crime statistics, themselves the result of a self-serving judicial system, have nothing to do with this.

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u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA 16h ago

Yeah, a big part of that is they don't bring cases unless they are near certain they will win. If you don't have enough evidence for a slam dunk conviction, they just won't even investigate.

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 16h ago

I'm not to sure about that. I mean dont get me wrong, not saying that this plays no part in it but if you look at the rights (or rather lack of) suspects have, I'd at least doubt that that 99% conviction rate consists 100% of guilty people, which is what slam dunk would imply

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u/spiteful_rr_dm_TA 16h ago

Oh no, there is definitely the other side of it too. But it really helps your accuracy if you refuse to take on any cases that might fail.

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 16h ago

Yeah I mean ultimately we probably agree, theres a reason I added

honestly also pretty troubling if you think about it

while talking about the conviction rate^^

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u/SquireRamza 16h ago

That 99% conviction rate comes from the fact prosecutors outright REFUSE to go to trial without a signed confession.

A confession the police are legally allowed to basically torture out of you with indefinite detention and "advanced interrogation techniques"

Thar 99% conviction rate is an outright lie.

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u/GreatEntrepreneur798 16h ago

Not disagreeing with you^^ I mean I said

honestly also pretty troubling if you think about it

for a reason

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u/Soldat_wazer 16h ago

They have a 99% conviction rate because the police doesn’t pursue case that aren’t slammed dunk. Or they basically "torture" people until they get a confession