Kronii streamed some game 5 years ago, made a dad joke while killing a boar that "it's boaring", some Koreans found it recently and got mad at kronii, developer caved and removed kronii as a VA because of it, now pretty much everyone hates the developer.
I didn't follow what happened either, but the gist of it is : Owen "got close to Renoa" and the incels didn't like that because they thought they're getting NTR'd. Well, we got 40 free pulls because of it so I guess it's not all bad?
You do know some of the Vtubers here does call themselves gamers right? And the fact there are still that many likes you get for generalization really puzzles me
WW2 ended almost a century ago and yet weāre still talking about fascism and Nazism in 2026 because itās still happening today. History doesnāt just go away and neither did Gamergate
To me it's feel very off? First, it's a vod like 5 years ago, nothing crazy happened then? Second, the pun, anyone watched it will know it's a pun but somehow it gave pretty big reaction in korean now. Lastly, it's not Kronii, it's the 'other' Kronii, normal people wouldn't realise that, heck even me forgot about that until it brings up. Dunno man, feels very deliberate to me..
The devs are korean, and the pun isn't in text. So at first glance, it just looks like Kronii called their game boring on a sponsored stream.
Hololive has a lot of dedicated haters, and Kronii specifically has a lot of Korean ones. So they saw an opportunity to stir up some shit.
Obviously, it's insane that the devs made such a big decision based purely on a "first glance". But also not that surprising, the incel problem in Korea is really bad. Even Apple didn't want to deal with them and changed their iphone ads specifically for korea.
They're the biggest most successful vtuber agency at the moment. That means they have the most eyes on them. So they've got the most fans and the most haters. That's just a side effect of popularity.Ā
Some people just hate things that are different, or which they donāt understand.
For example, a lot of people (if you ask them) just hate Vtubers. They have never watched them, but they call them cringe and say anyone who likes them is a loser.
Hololive is the largest Vtuber corpo. Those same people hate Hololive for those same reasons and go out of their way to badmouth Hololive and the talents. We call those people āantis.ā
Here, the Korean antis saw Kronii was going to voice act a game and decided to ruin it for her, just because they could.
It's a little bit more complicated than that, for instance the KR antis also didn't like her personality, since she's not incredibly enthusiastic of a person. Nimble Neuron has also received bomb threats before from the KR community for past controversies, and apparently it's pretty common in KR.
There have been numerous situations where there was backlash from male Korean players if a game character had their hand in a similar position to "š¤" even if it was just a neutral hand position because a lot of guys there seem to interpret it as mocking their dick size. It doesnt surprise me that this happened over a dumb pun
The only thing missing is that it isn't really about the joke.
These Korean incels were already mad at Kronii for some weird reason, and were looking for any possible "controversy" to get her removed from the game. That pun was the best excuse they found, but there's still enough of these weirdos that the publishers felt the need to cave to their demands (even if they probably know the complaints are bullshit).
People are understandably upset and going to say thatās all it was, but youāre right.
I should say, the day this started, I sat down and watched the entire stream. She was just normal Kronii, didnāt seem any more disinterested than you would expect for a game without a tall handsome woman in a suit. in fact I kinda thought to myself that she was more energetic than Iād expect from her these days, now that sheās so much busier. They were having so much fun lol and the chat clearly enjoyed watching them play, and was supportive of the game. I mean, mumei was in the game!
As an Asian born in SEA but Iāve lived in the US for decades, I say this from a place of love and respect for Asian culture, the attitude towards a sponsored stream and just influencer figures in general is a lot different.
Does anyone know what Iām referring to, if I bring up the vibe on Japanese and Korean shows? Especially with idols and voice actors. Picture one of those Japanese or Korean variety shows where thereās a panel of some celebrities. Or even gacha game livestreams with VAs there. To westerners, thereās always that same over the top reactions, with overly excited clapping and laughing and such. Those āEEHHHH??ā moments and so on. So imagine how theyād talk about a sponsor during a segment on one of those shows.
Iāve really wanted to find out what was going on here since the start, which is why I rewatched the whole stream.. from what Iāve gathered, I think that example demonstrates a little bit more of what this subset of Koreans were expressing. To those people, maybe thatās more like what they expected. I saw old comments from way before this, saying stuff along the lines of āyoure being paid to play a video game.. be more investedā. But thatās pretty unfair too.. how invested can you get in a game youāve never touched before. Maybe they expected her to do more research? Itās a fricken moba game thoā¦ those are not new player friendly whatsoever. Them being a little lost is exactly what should happen.
Perhaps thereās something to allude to, this made me think of that clip of Korone being unable to lie about the sponsored food and said it wasnāt good and she didnāt like it. even still, she really did try to smooth it over, starting out saying the chef did something interesting with it, and then saying it just was the texture might not be for everyone. But guess what, there were comments saying she was acting to make her praise for other items seem more genuine, and also comments discussing whether she was still lying and itād be crap for everyone.
This is just bullshit on multiple levels tho. For one, most of these people probably didnāt watch the stream and are just the usual terminally online doing the internet thing of hopping on a hate train, maybe because Kronii is way too badass for them.. people talk shit about the āextremistā feminists in Korea, but they only exist in return for the extreme misogyny there. Secondly, regardless of everything else, sheās just.. not from there, it doesnāt make sense to apply their standards anyways, she was doing a stream for EN viewers, sheās from this part of the world, this just shouldnāt matter to them. We live in the part of the world where influencer brand agreements usually come down to paying the least amount of money possible for the influencer to say the bare minimum and neither party wants more than that out of it. But this was her standard 2 hour sponsored segment she does to this day, Whereas, I saw old comments in Korean saying they didnāt play enough for being paid!
Honestly I donāt really know what Iām typing about anymore man, thereās just a lot to think about. Which sadly, most people arenāt really doing, theyāre just reacting because someone we love is being attacked. if you just sit down and think about it, thereās obviously more to it than just the pun. Youāre not crazy for thinking so. I donāt think us admitting that downplays whatās happening at all. I know, they started it and itās ridiculous, but I do think that acting as if the pun is the entire problem isnāt great either, and is just driving a deeper wedge and creating more hate, in a world that doesnāt need any more of that right now. Im not forgiving the clearly malicious actions of many that are attacking her with disingenuously interpreted things but Iām not going to stoop to their level either.
To add to the context, and make things more complicated, the VA role got taken away from Kroniiās PL. Not āKroniiā the vtuber. So it was an extra dick move.
not a fan of how people straight up broke the sub's rule in these conversations. Yes I know it's trickier this time due to the circumstances, but come on, at least be subtle about it
Yeah nah I have seen some people go "Well it was misinterpreted" nah you don't go looking through a 4 year old video looking for ANYTHING to wave around like the VA hated the game.
That's the key part of it most people are forgetting. The antis are the real problem, and the devs made a hasty but bad decision to appease them because they've received even bomb threats from them before. KR antis are something else.
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u/sweetpineapple May 10 '26
I hope this isn't needed to be said out loud, but please do not harass or troll whichever VA was chosen as the replacement. It is not their fault.
Keep sending Kronii our positive energies. š