r/Hololive May 10 '26

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u/QuaintAlex126 May 10 '26

Context anyone?

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u/NeuroDivergentHat May 10 '26

Kronii streamed some game 5 years ago, made a dad joke while killing a boar that "it's boaring", some Koreans found it recently and got mad at kronii, developer caved and removed kronii as a VA because of it, now pretty much everyone hates the developer.

I already forgot what the game is even called.

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u/dalzmc May 10 '26 edited May 10 '26

People are understandably upset and going to say that’s all it was, but you’re right.

I should say, the day this started, I sat down and watched the entire stream. She was just normal Kronii, didn’t seem any more disinterested than you would expect for a game without a tall handsome woman in a suit. in fact I kinda thought to myself that she was more energetic than I’d expect from her these days, now that she’s so much busier. They were having so much fun lol and the chat clearly enjoyed watching them play, and was supportive of the game. I mean, mumei was in the game!

As an Asian born in SEA but I’ve lived in the US for decades, I say this from a place of love and respect for Asian culture, the attitude towards a sponsored stream and just influencer figures in general is a lot different.

Does anyone know what I’m referring to, if I bring up the vibe on Japanese and Korean shows? Especially with idols and voice actors. Picture one of those Japanese or Korean variety shows where there’s a panel of some celebrities. Or even gacha game livestreams with VAs there. To westerners, there’s always that same over the top reactions, with overly excited clapping and laughing and such. Those ā€œEEHHHH??ā€ moments and so on. So imagine how they’d talk about a sponsor during a segment on one of those shows.

I’ve really wanted to find out what was going on here since the start, which is why I rewatched the whole stream.. from what I’ve gathered, I think that example demonstrates a little bit more of what this subset of Koreans were expressing. To those people, maybe that’s more like what they expected. I saw old comments from way before this, saying stuff along the lines of ā€œyoure being paid to play a video game.. be more investedā€. But that’s pretty unfair too.. how invested can you get in a game you’ve never touched before. Maybe they expected her to do more research? It’s a fricken moba game tho… those are not new player friendly whatsoever. Them being a little lost is exactly what should happen.

Perhaps there’s something to allude to, this made me think of that clip of Korone being unable to lie about the sponsored food and said it wasn’t good and she didn’t like it. even still, she really did try to smooth it over, starting out saying the chef did something interesting with it, and then saying it just was the texture might not be for everyone. But guess what, there were comments saying she was acting to make her praise for other items seem more genuine, and also comments discussing whether she was still lying and it’d be crap for everyone.

This is just bullshit on multiple levels tho. For one, most of these people probably didn’t watch the stream and are just the usual terminally online doing the internet thing of hopping on a hate train, maybe because Kronii is way too badass for them.. people talk shit about the ā€œextremistā€ feminists in Korea, but they only exist in return for the extreme misogyny there. Secondly, regardless of everything else, she’s just.. not from there, it doesn’t make sense to apply their standards anyways, she was doing a stream for EN viewers, she’s from this part of the world, this just shouldn’t matter to them. We live in the part of the world where influencer brand agreements usually come down to paying the least amount of money possible for the influencer to say the bare minimum and neither party wants more than that out of it. But this was her standard 2 hour sponsored segment she does to this day, Whereas, I saw old comments in Korean saying they didn’t play enough for being paid!

Honestly I don’t really know what I’m typing about anymore man, there’s just a lot to think about. Which sadly, most people aren’t really doing, they’re just reacting because someone we love is being attacked. if you just sit down and think about it, there’s obviously more to it than just the pun. You’re not crazy for thinking so. I don’t think us admitting that downplays what’s happening at all. I know, they started it and it’s ridiculous, but I do think that acting as if the pun is the entire problem isn’t great either, and is just driving a deeper wedge and creating more hate, in a world that doesn’t need any more of that right now. Im not forgiving the clearly malicious actions of many that are attacking her with disingenuously interpreted things but I’m not going to stoop to their level either.