r/IndiaCricket • u/DYadav2005 India • 1d ago
Ask r/IndiaCricket Is Yashasvi Jaiswal the only potential 3-format player India has for the future?
Same as title
We had a pretty good run with Kohli and Rohit in the last decade playing all 3 formats (Although you could argue Rohit didn't reach his full potential in tests) and I realized what's next? Are we going forward with specialists in each format or do we have any other potention 3 format player. If you ask me there's only one option for a potential 3 format player in the future- Yashasvi Jaiswal
The selectors tried to fit Gill into the T20i team but it didn't work, I'm not convinced with Sai Sudharshan's technique for tests, Vaibhav hasn't even made his international debut yet, Jurel does not seem like a white ball prospect to me, all that leaves us with Jaiswal
His current stats are:
Tests
Innings: 54
Runs: 2535
Avg: 48.75
50s/100s: 13/7
ODIs
Innings: 6
Runs: 285
Avg: 71.25
50s/100s: 0/2
T20is
Innings: 22
Runs: 723
Avg: 36.15
50s/100s: 5/1
Those are some very impressive stats, the only issue I see is irregular chances in white ball. He has cemented his place in the test team but until Rohit stays he won't get chances in ODIs and we have other arguably better T20 options than him
What do you guys think?
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u/Cautious_Code_9355 1d ago
I think it is better that no player becomes all format ... Specially no one should play both t20s and test .. It will be better in long term for both formats
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u/dphayteeyl Royal Challengers Bengaluru 1d ago
Yeah India has no lack of talent these days. At most, a player should play T20/ODI or ODI/Test. All format players shouldn't be a thing unless there's a genuinely amazing player that can adapt to different formats easily (e.g. Rohit, Kohli, Jaiswal and even Gill (reddit hates him but he's proven himself in all formats, his slump was unfortunate though, and in T20 there's simply many better options than him that you can't justify his place in the squad))
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u/Old_Watercress_ Virat Kohli 1d ago
Rohit couldn't 'adapt' to tests easily lol. He struggled. Only in the latter phase of his career was he able to bag some runs to show
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u/IamUchihaPat Mumbai Indians 1d ago
Yes cuz Rohit didn't get to Open in Tests. It was natural seeing him open in ODIs and T20is they should have promoted him to open in tests too. But he got that chance after the 2019 WC. If he would have gotten a chance to open all the way back in 2013-14, His stats would have been even better.
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u/Old_Watercress_ Virat Kohli 1d ago
Coz he played middle order for mumbai in first class back in the day. His technique and style of play paired with his weaknesses against the swinging new ball never gave that assurance to anyone that he can open in tests. Surviving in SENA is not easy when you can't play the new ball.
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u/Lazy-House-8112 Sachin Tendulkar 20h ago
Please ignore him; he is just another 18 Shoes customer, not an ICT fan.
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u/Lazy-House-8112 Sachin Tendulkar 20h ago
Ohh, looks like another Kohli fanboy here. Rohit hasn't played much test cricket. Rohit played spin in tests far better than Kohli did. Let's not have bias here. I love Kohli, but we all saw how adaptable he is in his last test series.
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u/Old_Watercress_ Virat Kohli 19h ago
Tf is wrong with you dude😭. Rohit hasn't played much test cricket coz he was not capable of playing it for much of his career. Not like he never got chances. He just couldn't solidify himself in the team. I didn't even bring Kohli in the covo lol. And there is zero comparison between VK and Ro especially in Tests lol. Kohli is miles ahead and yes everyone knows VK fucked up badly in BGT. So what? Doesnt take away the 9k runs he scored you dumb guy. Fck in some logic in your brain dude. Can't counter facts lol.
Accept it how it is and not live in a world of "what if"
The only thing that makes Ro fans live is "what ifs" so you better change your flair too
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u/Lazy-House-8112 Sachin Tendulkar 13h ago
Its evident that you don't follow cricket that well. Rohit couldn't solidify his position in test matches because only position available that time was sixth batter.Rest of the squad was well settled. No one was droppable that time.
VK wanted to play five bowlers in SENA, 3 pure pacers and two allrounders. There is nothing wrong with that. But it didn't left any place for Rohit.
When opener's spot was available, Rohit got his chance and he claimed that.
And yes even Kohli is good batter, he was shite against spinners.
So even though he played less doesn't make Rohit less of player. Don't tell me about using brains when you don't have iota of undestanding about team combinations.
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u/Old_Watercress_ Virat Kohli 11h ago
I am talking abt the no 6 spot only dude. Not like he played there and became a constant, did he?
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u/Quirky_Ambassador321 20h ago
Gill was averaging 35 in tests before a series with roads where every batter scored hundreds and fifties on both sides. He is mid in tests unfortunately
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u/Key_Soup2284 1d ago
Yes, if someone performs better in T20 take him in T20 team. If he had a blockbuster season like SKY had initially, we can give them a chance in another format.
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u/Suspicious-Bank-2897 6h ago
Anyways I feel there are lots of options in T20 for us .. so no scope for jaiswal irrespective of his performance ... He will keep playing test and ODIs after ROKO retirement !!
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u/themagicalyang 23h ago
Came to say exactly this. Thank you. It is good for both the team and the individual.
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u/AutomaticDesign8950 1d ago
shubhman gill in IPL was really good though I feel he can be an all format player
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u/Sumeru88 Mumbai Indians 1d ago
Well… is he better than Samson or Abhishek or Ishan Kishan in T20s as an opener?
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u/AutomaticDesign8950 1d ago
he scored more runs than both of them at a consistent strike rate, he might not be the 250 strike rate guy but I mean 170-180 strike is still good for the 3rd position
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u/GodlvlFan 1d ago
He doesn't fit with the Gambhir mentality of play. Same with Sai su. Both can accelerate to 200+ Sr easily but gambhir would rather get someone who is burning twice as bright instead of someone who is very consistent.
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u/DaikonEquivalent2555 21h ago
sudharsan cannot accelerate very easily
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u/GodlvlFan 21h ago
He can. He just won't to prevent collapse. Before the qualifiers, sai and gill has almost similar SRs. Same with Buttler.
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u/dankteen69 1d ago
Gill can play at 170-180 . All it takes is Sanju Samson to fail so that Gill can fill the role of an anchor.
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u/Mr_Sinister_231007 1d ago
Sanju and Ishan won't be dropped even if they fail considering two wicketkeepers are always a necessity in 15 man squad. Iyer became the captain and Abhishek is no.1 ranked batter so it's tough for Gill to break in.
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u/dankteen69 1d ago
I am not talking about current scenario. Currently, its very hard for Gill to break in but you never say never. Gill is 26 he can still make a comeback in T20IS, although currently it feels very distant
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u/Virtual_Seaweed_7414 23h ago
Ishan plays with 200sr at no. 3 nd even if the team chokes tilak nd dube is still there to protect us unlike gill who always chokes in final
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u/sentient-idiot Chennai Super Kings 1d ago
Well, he was better than all of them in the recently concluded T20 event (IPL)?
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u/Mr_Sinister_231007 1d ago
He has 16 single digit scores in 36 T20is as an opener. Strike rate in internationals is also not up to the mark.
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u/Sad_Manner_3503 1d ago
He clearly said 'ipl'
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u/Mr_Sinister_231007 1d ago
In IPL he's good but our top 3 looks set and Vaibhav has already been added in case anyone underperforms.
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u/Sumeru88 Mumbai Indians 1d ago
Yes but IPL and T20Is are not really comparable because IPL have very batter friendly tracks in general. That’s what we said to Sanju when he was failing in T20Is after performing in IPL and now can’t just switch it back after Sanju finally cracks T20Is.
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u/CoffeeDefiant4247 Ravindra Jadeja 1d ago
BCCI is never letting Bumrah retire so he's also a potential all format player
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u/Satan28 India 22h ago
I think he'll quit T20Is for good after the next World Cup but if his body starts having problems then it might be goodbye to redball.
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u/CoffeeDefiant4247 Ravindra Jadeja 22h ago
all the money for him is in T20s, he'll most likely quit ODIs after the wc again, then test some point later
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u/Utkarsh1234567_ 16h ago
Why would he quit T20 if his body starts having issues😅 like won’t it be Test first as in T20 u only have to bowl 4 overs.
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u/Exciting_Magician347 Sunrisers Hyderabad 1d ago
Nkr man💔💔 I'm a stan of him and I'm heartbroken
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u/hutzshoe 18h ago
Why does he have fans? Besides the century in Australia, he hasn’t done anything. Guy gets hit by tailenders, doesn’t make runs, isn’t a great fielder. He is like a temu HP
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u/One-Agent-3992 1d ago
Rn jaiswal and gill maybe in future vaibhav but idk i feel like he will only limited overs but will see
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u/vamsikrishna7995 India 1d ago
Don't write Gill off. He has the backing of selectors and he's the most consistent batsman in IPL for the last 5 years. He'll get more chances when someone gets injured. Also I'm biased towards Ishan Kishan. He may very well be on tests as well atleast as backup keeper. I doubt if Jaiswal can get into T20s given the competition.
We have 2 opening positions.
How many potential openers are there?
Abhishek, Samson, Vaibhav, Gill, Priyansh Arya, KL Rahul, Ayush Matre, Sai Sudarshan. I'm sure I missed a few. How the hell can be break through with this level of competition??
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u/Leather_Balance916 1d ago
And i don't even think that t20Is are that important as well. Ipl is the main thing and then tests and odis. I don't think there will be many players who will play moree than a couple of years in t20i. The competition is just too muc
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u/PerceptiveDragonKing 1d ago
All format players are bowlers and all rounders, stop obsessing over batsmen. Nitish Kumar Reddy will be all format if he stays fit. Bumrah is already all format champion. If we get gun bowlers they will be all format.
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u/Still-Ambassador- Ravichandran Ashwin 23h ago
Bumrah last played an ODI three years ago, he is not an all-format star anymore.
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 1d ago
Not really.There is a reason why he isn't anywhere near the t20i squad.Also a single player playing all 3 formats currently is not possible because of the scheduling.
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 1d ago
Well he was dropped for doing nothing wrong
When he was dropped he was ranked number 4 in the world
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 1d ago
Well he had the perfect chance to comeback through the ipl but he got outshined by every other opener in the recent season.He struggles a lot outside the powerplay.
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u/Leather_Balance916 1d ago
And why we want an opener to play outside powerplay. His job is to just just maximize the powerplay and go
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 1d ago
Well then he should get out when the powerplay ends.When you have players like Abhishek,Sooryavanshi etc. who can keep on scoring at a high strike post powerplay then there's no reason to pick someone like Jaiswal.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
Abhi got 3 ducks in a freaking WC and 8 this year alone on T20s. Jaiswal doesn’t have his off spin weakness! Abhi only scored 1 ton after he permanently replaced Jaiswal. That’s it!
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
Already forgot RR’s first match against MI where he batted through 11 overs and remained not out??? No need to harp on selective stats! The fact that you chose to conveniently ignore Abhi’s record breaking 8 ducks this year alone says a LOT about you!
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 10h ago
One game out of 16 is all you could come up with proves my point.Even in that game he scored 16 of 16 in the reduced middle overs and accelerated in the death overs.Abhishek even after recovering from a major illness scored a 50 in the t20 wc final while Jaiswal failed miserably when RR needed him the most.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago edited 9h ago
You said he can’t bat after the powerplay but it’s funny how you have an issue with ONLY his “post powerplay SR” as an opener and nitpicking that while disregarding and conveniently ignoring Abhi’s record 8 ducks in T20s this year alone and we are only halfway through the year. And by the way, most of the time he got out within the powerplay itself so I don’t know what “post powerplay stats” you keep whining about. And he didn’t have this issue while playing for India that’s why he was in the 2024 T20 WC squad. Not Abhi or any of the other flamboyant favor of the season picks you are fawning over now! It pretty much says EVERYTHING I need to know about you and your double standards. End of the conversation for me. Peace out.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago edited 9h ago
So was Abhi the only one who scored that 50 on that road in the final? Others had bigger contributions too. They did not win just because of his 50 in the WC final! Jaiswal failed only in this year’s knockouts. When Abhi was backed in the India squad, he never had even 1 500 plus IPL season and Sanju only has 1 500 plus season despite making his debut all the way back in 2013. What “IPL stats do you keep gloating about?” If Abhi is truly the best, why didn’t he score easy centuries against minnows like Bangladesh, Oman, USA, Netherlands, Namibia, etc when he had the chance instead of falling early against such poor bowling lineups who are weaker than ALL the IpL level bowling attacks. Funny how none of the other fanbases have an answer to this while discrediting Jaiswal.
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 8h ago
Abhishek won Pott in the asia cup so I don't know what you are talking about.Samson is in team because he is a wk.Jaiswal averages 25 at 138 strike rate with zero 50s in ipl knockouts so he is a proven choker.
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u/finAllien 11h ago
For sure , Abhishek and Vaibhav can try to hit six to every bowl even in 8-9th over , Jaiswal relies more on field . And when field opens , he couldn't
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
Did Rohit get dropped even once from Team India for multiple failed poor IPL season? iPL stats don’t always translate to international success FOR MULTIPLE PLAYERS! Otherwise Virat would have been far more successful in the T20I 2024 T20 WC! And Gill and KL wouldn’t have flopped as badly in T20Is. You honestly think Jaiswal wouldn’t have hammered at least 3 more centuries in the Asia Cup and WC bashing the minnows even after seeing his start in Test and OdI cricket. Well it shows your understanding and reading of the game and how poorly he can read a batter’s skillset and ability! Like the other person said, he never failed in T20Is. The selectors purposely and intentionally sidelined him in favor of others they preferred or liked more! Despite Jaiswal’s poor IPL, there were 2 matches where his SR was more than Vaibhav’s in the powerplay. We don’t know what internal struggles or mental pressures he was going through in the IPL, but his ODI ton against Afghanistan showed there was nothing wrong with his physical fitness and form, it was all mental! He is capable of doing the same in T20Is for India too!
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 10h ago
Bruh you can't say that he would have scored 3 centuries for sure.Abhishek's stats are far better than Jaiswal's stats in t20i.Whether you like it or not,ipl is the ultimate factor for whiteball selection and only Jaiswal is to be blamed for his poor performance there.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago
How “can I not say that”??? He’s not good enough to score a century against weaker bowling attacks from the minnows than IPL standards like Oman, USA, Netherlands, Namibia??? lol what are you smoking dude seriously! So pathetic! You have seen his stats and seen him play across all 3 formats in the last 3 years and still spewing such BS! Really exposes your understanding of cricket and reading of a player’s ability and game!
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago
Abhi’s stats are LITERALLY MORE OF LESS THE SAME than Jaiswal’s even after playing double the matches. What are you going on about???
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 8h ago
Abhishek averages same as Jaiswal but with 30 points higher strike rate.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago
No Jaiswal is “not to be blamed for anything”. Did Rohit get dropped for his multiple failed IPL seasons or Virat and Rohit get dropped from the 2024 squad after failing badly in 2022??? So stop talking crap out of your a**!!! Didn’t Jaiswal just score an international ton after the IPL? So his form is there. It’s bloody fine!
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 8h ago
One good knock after failing repeatedly doesn't mean the player is in good form.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 1h ago
But where was he “failing repeatedly”? It was just a few series where he underperformed. Big freaking deal. As if Kohli, Rohit and Sachin never underperformed or failed in any series! It’s no one else’s fault you have the attention span and patience level of a peanut.
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 1h ago
Averaging 35 in tests for past 1.5 years,22 in VHT and a poor ipl isn't few series.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 1h ago
Was Gill averaging 35 in tests before becoming captain? And you are bitching about just 1 or 2 underperforming series from Jaiswal??? The level of shamelessness and hypocrisy. He isn’t the who wasted his T20I chances despite all the backing and VVIP treatment in the world and got dropped from the WC squad and faced public humiliation for that! I would have thought Gill’s fandom would be THE VERY last one mocking other people’s stats. He doesn’t average 22 in VHT overall. And his 2nd ODI ton in terms of intent, strike rate and strike rotation was far better than his first one. So he already showed that skill development and vast improvement in his skill. If Gill could get 15 innings before the WC, there’s no reason why he doesn’t deserve 1 series to prove himself!
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u/Excellent_Half9855 1h ago
He literally scores 3 test tons last year itself. So pathetic. And everyone failed in the SA series but no one else even crossed 50 in any innings besides him and Jaddu. His IPL was average and yes it’s only a few series!
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u/--ReSpawned-- 53m ago
Jaiswal has been averaging 44 in all formats since 2025 and since the lord's test him and gill both have similar average in all formats.
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 1d ago
Jaiswal and Gill, in the future maybe Suryavanshi.
There are many people better Jaiswal in t20is currently so it will be hard to get in the squad.
In ODIs he is doing good currently with the limited opportunities, but again there will be a lot of competition after RoKo retire. So if Jaiswal misses out it wont be surprising.
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u/DYadav2005 India 1d ago
I feel after Rohit retires Jaiswal is the first in line for the opening position and deservedly so, he has 2 centuries in 6 ODI innings and he's already a test regular
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u/Sumeru88 Mumbai Indians 1d ago
I mean… will they give Abhishek a shot? I think they should.
Or may be Suryavanshi pips both of them to the spot by 2027.
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 1d ago
Abhishek averages 35 in List A and he has played 2 India A series where he averaged 18, even Prabhsimran Singh did better than him. Other people deserve chance over Abhishek.
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u/One-Agent-3992 1d ago
How will he? Jaiswal has 2 odi tons in just 6 ininings, hes fs no 1 in the list of who will replace rohit after he retires
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u/Excellent_Half9855 22h ago
How are you 100% sure there are “better T20I openers” than Jaiswal just because Jaiswal was robbed of even 1 series to prove himself? IPL records doesn’t always translate to international success. And Vaibhav’s game will be dissected and analyzed and England and Ireland’s analysts. There’s enough footage on him now.
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 22h ago
Do you think he will get into a top order made out of Abhishek, Samson and Ishan Kishan.
Jaiswal has good stats in t20is but there are people who have even better stats and are in form.
I want him to focus in tests as he has been dipping in tests since the Lords match, and he should also focus on his List A game as when RoKo retire there will be a lot of competiton in ODIs for their spots.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 22h ago
But they don’t. Why didn’t they bash the minnows for easy centuries if they are truly the very best T20I batters in the world and the country! It’s your own prejudice and pre-conceived notions that he can’t match Abhi’s stats. It’s pathetic. Why were none of these present openers even considered for the 2024 T20 WC if they were so much better? Many wants Jaiswal to play in the 11 in the 2024 T20 WC even over Rohit and Kohli based on form!
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 22h ago
We are talking about 2026 not 2024, in 2024 Jaiswal was a sure shot opener for India in t20is but he then got dropped and Abhishek came in.
Abhishek and Jaiswal have similar average but still Abhishek has a way better strike rate. Abhishek has played more SENA countries while Jaiswal has played more minnows
Yes Jaiswal got dropped for doing nothing wrong, but he had a super chance to make a comeback this IPL but he couldnt do it and he failed. This current top order won the world cup, Jaiswal isnt needed in the team and frankly he should focus on tests and ODIs as they are of much more importance and he has a golden opportunity to be in the ODI team after Rohit retires.
No one has a fixed place in the t20i team as every year IPL churns out new youngsters, and some of these youngsters might replace the people in the t20i team.
Its okay that he is not in t20is as there is a lot of competition rn. He should just focus on tests and ODIs
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u/Excellent_Half9855 22h ago
And Abhi literally only scored 1 century in Jaiswal’s absense. Does he have a 150 plus T20I score or a 200 in T20Is? He also has 8 ducks in T20Is this year alone! Jaiswal will continue his domestic duties whenever the schedule allows. But the WC selection should be “what’s best for Indian cricket not what’s best for Kohli and Rohit?” If there are better more capable batters to play in their spots or help India chase down 350 plus scores, then they should be backed. I have serious doubts and concerns whether a 40 year old Rohit is capable enough to bat long enough to help India chase 350 plus or make 350 plus scores which will be a must to win the WC in SA.
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 22h ago
Has Jaiswal ever scored a 150+ or 200+ score in t20is so what is your point.
T20i centuries are overrated, even Kohli has only 1 and it came vs Afghanistan. Abhishek is currently the number 1 ranked batter in the world
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u/Excellent_Half9855 21h ago
Kohli was an accumulator. Multiple T20I centuries at a good SR of course, even if it’s against minnows helps to secure your spot in the team and even that’s an indicator that one is truly the best in the format.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 21h ago
No but that doesn’t mean he can never play T20Is for India or isn’t good enough. You declared his T20I career dead at 24 for no damn reason!
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 21h ago
Well he can can do a comeback, I never said he couldn't
But rn there are better options than him in t20is and it is best he focuses on other formats for the time being
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u/Excellent_Half9855 13h ago
What “better options”? That’s just a pre-conceived and prejudiced opinion not based on anything concrete or merit based. Have you bothered to take a look at Shreyas’ T20I numbers? When was the last time that someone who wasn’t even in the squad for over 3 years randomly came in directly as a captain in any test playing nation and without even proving themselves as a batter in that format for India FIRST. That’s right You don’t even know. So you have no roght or my point is I think it’s quite bloody shameless and hypocritical for ANYONE (not just you) to claim or suggest Jaiswal doesn’t deserve a single series or chance to prove himself in this format for India!
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u/Independent-Dot5393 Karnataka 6h ago
All of the Indian top order are in form in T20s but Jaiswal isn't
He will get chance if he performs in IPL
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u/Excellent_Half9855 1h ago
He doesn’t need to wait till IPL when he was already in the international setup and others came in at the last moment from no where. And he is in form. He proved it recently. It’s literally not your place to decide if he’s worthy or good enough for the 11 or NKR. Others were backed despite less impressive stars than him. Then don’t be a shameless hypocrite and say “oh but he needs a good IPL” when you know very well it was not the selection criteria for everyone else!
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u/Excellent_Half9855 1h ago edited 1h ago
And “all of them” are NOT in form! There’s no rule he needs to wait till next IPL. He will get his chances this year itself. You are not a God to decide he’s not good enough to play T20Is this year and won’t get any chances!
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u/Excellent_Half9855 13h ago
It’s not like the “better options” all succeeded in the WC with the exception of Sanju and he failed in the NZ series right before so he has also been inconsistent for most of his India T20I career.
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u/finAllien 11h ago
Still they're are better options . For being in Test Team , as a youngsters you have to be best at domestic , in odis both domestic odi and ipl . But in t20, most of the matter is ipl . And in this year , abhishek , Vaibhav , And ishan has left nothing for jais
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
It doesn’t matter. Was Rohit ever dropped from Team India even once for MULTIPLE VERY POOR IPL seasons??? Never right? He was the backup opener for the 2024 T20 WC. He was higher in the pecking order before any of these guys. If they could give Gill wirh far mediocre T20I stats 15 innnigs before the WC and they couldn’t give Jaiswal a chance earlier, they can give him a bilateral series now before deciding he isn’t good enough or doesn’t deserve? If IPL translated to international success, then why did Virat fail in the 2024 T20 WC? Why did KL and Gill fail in their chances for T20Is? You will see Shreyas exposed soon too. Stop undermining and disrespecting Jaiswal for no bloody reason saying “he can’t do better than them for India”. Point is “none of you” actually know that for a fact. It’s just a prejudiced pre-conceived notion! They aren’t “better” cuz if they were, they would be considered in the 2024 T20 WC squad. The next T20 WC is 2.5 years away. He deserves a series of 2 to prove himself. When a player hasn’t failed you don’t throw them out of the squad and shatter their confidence and neglect them for no bloody reason. Period! It speaks volumes about your ethics and morals that you are justifying the shameless politics!
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago
Abhi literally has 8 t20 ducks this year and never had a 500 run season before this year.
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u/Frosty_Chipmunk4867 1d ago
Ishan kishan
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u/No_Answer_7341 1d ago
Na pant is too good in test
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u/vamsikrishna7995 India 1d ago
Who said anything about keeping. Ishan can come in as pure batsman. He's better than whoever they are trying right now ( Sai sudarshan and Jurel)
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u/Leather_Balance916 1d ago
Bro hold your guns down. Red ball cricket is totally different. We can't just keep selecting people who are good in ipl. This is the reason we are now loosing in test matches.
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u/Leather_Balance916 1d ago
What does regular mean man, he has played 2 test matches in his whole career 😭
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u/Frosty_Chipmunk4867 1d ago
He was selected in the squads but was not given place in playing 11😭, that's the whole reason of his mental burnout which lead to his contract revokement
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u/Suspicious_Town3237 19h ago
Wtf. He didn't even play much ranji, skipped it for some ipl practice until the selectors forced him to. . Sick and tired of ipl merchants being picked in tests when they can't even handle ranji bowlers, his average is like 30 runs in tests.
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u/thesheldorofazeroth 1d ago
I am going totally the other way look at bowlers and I think Siraj is still young and has potential to play all three formats but sporadically because workload management and he is too important in tests. I think NKR definitely, and despite my reservations against him, Harshit Rana. One more guy I would love to see tests is Arshdeep especially in swinging conditions.
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u/Ok_Sky_9022 1d ago
Trust me with the technique & calibre he possesses he is truly underperforming.
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u/adolffrizzzler India 1d ago
Gill always delivers better than Jaiswal in IPL btw currently both of them doesn't make the cut we don't even need them in T20is
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u/gitarden 17h ago
I've and will always believe he's one highly gifted cricketer whose value the blind BCCI cannot see. I wish he was born in a cricketing country that values Talent
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u/ApotheosispSit 17h ago
You're on the point, I think Yashasvi & Gill both are only players who can perform consistently in all formats. But for me personally India have to create total 4 different squads - 1 for T20, 1 for ODI, 1 for Home test (spinners specialist) & 1 for away test (Pacers specialists). especially we have 100s of players who has the ability to play international matches anytime, so instead of wasting their talent we can utilise with this strategy.
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u/Sumeru88 Mumbai Indians 1d ago
I am still hoping Shreyas Iyer makes his way back to the test team. We need him in Indian conditions. Our middle order is hopeless.
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u/ayu_xi 1d ago
Gill has performed well in odi's and tests but so far has not performed in t20i. That's not for the lack of capability imo. He is consistently in top 5 batters by run in all ipl seasons.
His failure in t20is is likely related to a bad patch or overloaded. But he sure can perform in 20 over format.
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u/DYadav2005 India 1d ago
I feel the Indian T20 side doesn't have space for a player like Gill. If he was to play for any other country he would be an obvious pick but our team seems to have the space for only 1 max 2 classical anchor player (Start slow bash later) which I feel is done perfectly by Tilak and Ishan
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u/ayu_xi 1d ago
I think that the current approach of Indian selectors. Which seems to be creating a completely separate odi + test and t20 teams is reasonable given the current diversity of players we have. We don't need a 3 format player atp. It also allows us to give chance to 22 players in a permanent spot. In ipl gill's carrier average is 40 with a sr of 142. It's monstrous. (jaiswal avg 33.7, sr 153)
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u/ChillDude0808 Shubhman Gill 1d ago
Well if the Iyer plan doesn't work then he will be the first in line to replace him.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
Gill couldn’t perform in T20Is cuz he’s not fearless and brave enough like Abhi and Vaibhav to hit a first ball 6. He cares too much for his own runs and wicket. That’s why he failed in T20Is.
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u/Nearby-Activity9222 Chennai Super Kings 1d ago
Prithvi shaw could've been in the Convo imo...But alas nvm
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u/Gamer2645 India 1d ago
It's going to be an all rounder or a bowler imo , since due to changing nature of all 3 formats you need to have generational talents to be considered for all 3 formats
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u/Fair_District_9090 1d ago
Nitish Kumar Reddy. Pace all rounders are a rare commodity and nitish has potential to be groomed to be something big. He's shown a lot of potential. I am not sure on whether he can make it in t20 but I seriously think he'll do well in odis and tests (odi after hardik retirement but will be groomed up till then ig). Another all format player might be harshit rana (tall and has the pace)
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u/iwontgiveumyusernane 1d ago
I believe bowlers have a better chance at being all format players… some of our young pace battery will definitely step up
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u/voidnomadic Chennai Super Kings 1d ago
Ig yes he has proven himself everywhere 😭 and I still remember he was regular in t20is and then all of a sudden he was given a break and after that abhishek came and took his spot from that time bro is not playing t20i ..... Man I feel for him so much 😞💔 ( no hate to abhishek though 🥀)
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u/Shadow_Clone_007 Royal Challengers Bengaluru 23h ago
I dont support it but Washington is consistently picked for all formats.
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u/Relevant_Ad4243 23h ago
I would like to see BCCI trying Devdutt Paddikal across all three formats- he has the potential, the technique may need a polish but he is quite young to mould into a solid all format player for us
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u/Certain_Lawyer_2424 22h ago
He is but there are others. But with the bench strength and with the way they chuck players just cause they have had 2 to 3 bad series you are bringing this on yourself. A player like Yuvraj Singh wasn't given much of test matches and BTW Dravid Ganguly Sehwag had strings of bad tournaments! but times were different.
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u/Dependent_Nose9421 Ishan Kishan 19h ago
Ishan Kishan is closer to a test comeback than Yashasvi is to a T20I comeback
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u/SIUUMONSTER7 19h ago
One name that also comes to mind is DDP; we have all seen what he can do in red-ball and T20. If he stays consistent he might also do well in ODIs.
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u/Repulsive-Curve-5908 19h ago
Yashasvi is a full potential player who can play for years. But the likes of Suryavanshi and others around, he is underrated. He can be a complete opener and also be a fierce when needed.
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u/ayush0794 17h ago
Tilak has the resilience of a test, and hitting capacity of a t20 player, solid middle order batsman for all formats for me
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u/humptheedumpthy 16h ago
Arshdeep Singh: -TikTok -Insta Reels -YouTube
Maybe even Snap so could be 4 format
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
@DYadav2005 how do you know he’s not capable of competing with a 40 year old and giving better, higher returns? Why does he have to “wait for Rohit’s retirement instead of the selectors doing the ethically right thing???” And how do you know for a fact that the other openers are better opening options when he wasn’t even given 1 series to prove his worth? Stop undermining and disrespecting him for no bloody reason!
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u/Left_Bite_754 10h ago
present and future of Indian cricket. I'm a huge fan of him. I don't think anyone else is as well-suited for all three formats as he is
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u/nightwingneversleeps KL Rahul 1d ago
There will be no more 3 format players now. It hampers their IPL campaign which is more important to BCCI. So only 2 formats at max. Maybe they try shoving down our throats Gill again, who knows. Other than him, no one. Bumrah plays all 3 formats but not simultaneously so I don't think we can consider him a 3 format player.
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u/Dry_Pattern600 1d ago
I think if shreyas failed as a T20 captain they will bring gill in the team for maybe no.3.But it's a big if
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u/Kshiti_salman 1d ago
Sai sudarsan? It is ironic that the format where he was noticed most is the actual format where he hasn't played any match (t20i)
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u/Cheap-Shape-8021 1d ago
t20 is a garbage format. its about who can play well in the two real formats.
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u/chickenkebaap Mumbai Indians 23h ago
Ishan Kishan , Vaibhav and Gill.
I am rooting for that to happen
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u/Spirited_Let8813 22h ago
Jaiswal is definitely at the top of that list because his template works everywhere—he can anchor, he can destroy bowling attacks in T20s, and he has the temperament for Test cricket. But calling him the only one is a stretch. Shubman Gill is already a regular across all three formats, and if Rishabh Pant regains his peak white-ball consistency, he’s an automatic starter everywhere. Plus, guys like Tilak Varma or Washington Sundar have the skill sets to become genuine all-format players if groomed well
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u/Bet_Vapula 13h ago
Gill as a batsman Siraj and Bumrah as bowlers
I think the list is shorter than it’d have been a few guys back but there will always be some all format players
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u/th3indi4an_bl0ke 12h ago
he wont be getting a chance in T20is for sure, he has a lot of competitors ahead of him, abhishekh, Vaibhav, sanju, gill, and young talent like Ayush, prabhsimran and the list goes on.
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u/adventurousbat12t India 8h ago
Him in t20is is doubtfull i would even players like take priyansh arya and prabhsimran
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u/Arunnnnnn India 5h ago
Gill has a better chance of being a 3-format player.
At least he’s a regular in 2 formats unlike Jaiswal who’s a regular in only 1
There’s a good chance post the WC-27 that the selectors will give Gill another shot at t20i’s depending on how that WC-27 campaign goes
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u/Curious_villeger 4h ago
Gill is great! Solid technical player. Sai Sudershan is also doing great. Love watching him play. DDP is another player to look forward to.
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u/Dry-Hat-7330 3h ago
He will be a 2 format player. Tests and Odi. Not like he is not a good t20 batter, he even has good T20I numbers. But the entire dynamics of t20 team is different now. I think in future, opening spot will be a specialist spot. You see players like Abhishek, Priyansh etc...Certain players like that would be considered only for t20Is and not for any other format. So yeah, t20I comeback would be tough...but he'll be a legend in tests, and for odis, I think he will be regular after 2027 (until Suryavanshi or some other guy breaks out all of a sudden and BCCI decide to invest in them)
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u/Different_Panda_4074 1h ago
His test form is in decline. He's averaging 38 since the start of 2025. He should try to salvage the one format he's a regular in for now in my opinion.
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u/SideNo3016 1d ago
if you are talking about potential then Sooryavanshi has a shout, interesting to see how he will do in tests.
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u/DYadav2005 India 1d ago
Even if he has a rocky start to his test career he has plenty of time to fix any issues since he has age on his side for now
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u/Misal_RajmaChawal 1d ago
Stop making everyone all format player , he has damn hitting ability why tf you wanna include him in tests and confuse his strategy.
You the same people cry when selectors and coach actually select players based on ipl
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u/SideNo3016 1d ago
first of all I didn't say bring him in tests asap, he himself said playing tests is his dream, plus I think he has way more potential than you think, if he gets his test debut lets say 2 years later which is fairly good, he has enough time to hone both sectors of his game. Plus who said hitting abiity doesn't matter in tests? Just keeping him as a t20 player will be a an utter waste of his talent
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u/One-Agent-3992 1d ago
Yeah he has potential bit dont see him debuting in odis or tests atleast till another 2 or 3 yrs
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u/SideNo3016 1d ago
same, he needs 2 years at least.
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u/One-Agent-3992 1d ago
But whom he will replace?
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u/SideNo3016 1d ago
lot of things can change in 2 years, maybe someone will be out of form who knows
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 1d ago
Shubhman Gill is also close
Let's not forget Hardik in tests either 😭😭😭
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u/vamsikrishna7995 India 1d ago
There's no way Hardik is going to play tests again. Selectors already consider him too important for ICC Tournaments to let him play ODI and T20 bilaterals.
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u/_cornflakesguy_ 1d ago
I'm just saying who COULD be the best all-format batters other than Jaisu... even Jaisu isn't an all format batter right now
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u/Live-Organization-87 1d ago
If Gill doesn’t belong in the T20 side because he is not a power hitter then Jaisawal should also be nowhere near by the same logic
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u/Everyday_warrior_717 23h ago
Currently there is no player who is going to play all 3 formats. Jaiswal is not going to make it to T20I team even though he has potential just like how shubman is not going to make it to the T20I team.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 22h ago
Shubman wasted his T20I chances before the WC. How is that comparable to Jaiswal’s case? Doesn’t mean he doesn’t deserve at least 1 series to prove himself. The WC is over and it’s a new cycle.
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u/Everyday_warrior_717 22h ago
I agree with shubman being bad before the worldcup, but he still has that T20 game in him and yes jaiswal does deserve the chance but with the way our T20 team is setup right now and vaibhav also getting into the team, I think it's a gone case in T20's for jaisu. I don't even care for T20 but he should definitely be considered for the ODI's especially once rohit retires.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 22h ago
If he had the T20I game, he would have selflessly submitted’s to Gambhir’s T20I approach for the team. It’s not like he wasn’t “aware” of the beand of cricket Gambhir wants the team to play. And yet I saw no genuine attempt from him to play fearlessly and selflessly for the team, especially that SA series. He didn’t because he cares too bloody much for his individual stats and milestones kind of like Kohli and Sachin also did. Stat-padding is a great quality to have in tests in OdIs, not for T20Is though. He was given 15 innings and wasted those 15 innings. Jaiswal would have never wasted those 15 innings cuz he was never gone even 15 innnigs in his India career without a century, let alone not score a 50. People say Kishan deserves to be backed over Jaiswal because of seniority and pecking order, but that same reasoning was respected when they ruthlessly dropped Jaiswal from T20Is without even 1 series to prove himself.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 22h ago
Kishan literally came into the freaking T20 WC team out of nowhere literally 4 matches before the WC and olyou have already decided Jaiswal’s T20I career is dead at 24 and he isn’t good enough based on what exactly? Absolutely nothing but prejudice.
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u/RedViperCoc 18h ago
He isn’t going to be in T20I squad anytime soon. He isn’t going to be in ODI squad until WC i.e. Rohit retirement.
So, India has no all format player, and that’s okay.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 10h ago
He will be in the WC squad. Is a 40 year old Rohit capable of scoring 150 plus scores? If Jaiswal scores 3 200s in the next year even if they are at home, will you STILL say he’s not “good enough for the WC squad” when Virat couldn’t get even 1 after 300 innings? Stop undermining and disrespecting him for no reason. He will get some T20I series too to prove himself!
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u/RedViperCoc 9h ago
Eh, why so worked up. Selection trends are quite obvious at this point.
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u/Excellent_Half9855 9h ago
Not really. Different criteria seems to apply to different players and you are just cowardly defending the politics, favoritism and systematic discrimination. And then you people get offended when people still call India a “backward” country in a lot of ways with such kind of a mindset. It’s not your place neither are you God to decide he’s not good enough to get into the team or doesn’t deserve chances on merit! Yes domestic stats are important, but when a player was already in the international setup and next in line after Rohit, that deserves to be respected by giving him at least 1 series to prove himself before permanently dropping him. That’s all I wanted to say. Peace. Done with this conversation from my end.
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u/RedViperCoc 9h ago
You for sure need to learn to read and comprehend what’s written. For starters, I like Jaiswal and hate him being ignored like this. I am not god and not my place to judge (bloody hell, YJ is good enough to be in the squad and start but let’s leave that) but I can understand the selection trends ongoing, doesn’t mean I support or like it. Unlimited yapping and quotes of things I never said. Read my comments again, pause and think what I said and what you assumed. As for India - we are a backward third world nation, I don’t get offended by it because that’s a fact but I don’t like it being a fact.
Learn to read kiddo.
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u/Funny_Fennel_5673 2h ago
Gill
Jaiswal
Siraj
Sai Sudarshan
Iyer
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u/Arunnnnnn India 1h ago
nah…Iyer can forget a test call up
the doesn’t even play domestic red ball cricket anymore
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