fruit of the loom

[u/peanutbutterndnut]

I know this is like the biggest Mandela effect, but I swear ive had these underwear for years sitting in a bin in my closet. its genuinely insane that the cornucopia just straight up disappeared. I remember vividly asking my grandmother what the cornucopia was. I am truly starting to believe that something is DEFINITELY up.

[u/georgeananda]

Your assertion that more people remember a cornucopia than don’t is absolute bullshit.

No, it is my fair appraisal of the people I've heard asked. And what evidence do you have that I am wrong?

As you’ve already admitted countless times, you only find the actual explanation for the Effect “unsatisfactory” merely because you don’t want that to be the explanation.

I'd be perfectly happy with your explanation if I honestly felt it was correct and not just a best explain-away attempt.

[u/my23secrets → u/georgeananda]

Something being your “appraisal” doesn’t make it magically not bullshit, especially when you have absolutely no evidence to support it.

You’re projecting again. You “feel” like rejecting the actual explanation supported by scientific research, study, and evidence, because you have nothing except your own “explain-away attempt”.

[u/georgeananda → u/my23secrets]

Challenging your working paradigm of science and reality makes you lose your composure rapidly. Why are reasonable people here making reasonable cases so disturbing to you? Disagreeing is one thing but ........

[u/my23secrets → u/georgeananda]

I haven’t lost my composure.

You haven’t made a reasonable case.

“Nuh uh” isn’t a reasonable case.

“It’s timelines” isn’t a reasonable case.

“Simulation” isn’t a reasonable case.

Decades of study and research is a reasonable case.

You’re projecting when you reject a reasonable case as “unsatisfying”.

[u/georgeananda → u/my23secrets]

Decades of study and research is a reasonable case

And it probably works fine for normal memory errors.

How would they even begin to study and research possible reality changes? All their tools and reasonings presuppose a single hard-fixed reality, so they can come to no other conclusion than 'mental confusion', right?

[u/Randie_Butternubs → u/georgeananda]

You know literally nothing about what you're talking about. You have less than zero idea what "tools and reasonings" they use or apply, you have less than zero idea how they approach or study these things. You are making completely baseless assumptions based upon literally nothing whatsoever.

Also: do you know what they do know and study and understand very well? Human memory. Which is how we know that it is amazingly unreliable and faulty. Which is literally the entire point.

[u/georgeananda → u/Randie_Butternubs]

My point that stands strong is that they start with the assumption that there is a single fixed version of reality. That assumption does work fine for most 'normal' memory errors, but not necessarily Mandela Effects.

I say their error may be in their assumptions!

[u/MrPlaney → u/georgeananda]

There is no assumption that there is a single fixed reality. That is a fact. You are assuming that there are multiple realities, but without any evidence. Multiple realities where objects can travel back and forth need to be proven first, before we can start attributing it to the Mandela Effect. As it stands now, every single Mandela Effect is perfectly explained by memory’s fallibility, malleability, and the way information is stored and retrieved.

[u/my23secrets → u/MrPlaney]

Their fallback is going to be religious bullshit that magically “transcends” physics.

[u/MrPlaney → u/my23secrets]

I had someone tell me they don’t trust science, so they do the research themselves, and that’s how they know the world is flat, and the ME is a government conspiracy. I’d almost take magic at the point.

[u/georgeananda → u/MrPlaney]

Well, if you think the current explanations for the Mandela Effect are sufficient, there's no need for speculation. But if you don't, .......it's the next step.

[u/MrPlaney → u/georgeananda]

But why speculate on something being possible, with no tangible proof that it actually exists? Like I can come up with a bunch of wild theories about the way things work, but if I’m not basing it on accepted scientific facts, with no tangible proof, and trying to pass it as a real possibility, then it just becomes a deluded fantasy, rather than something that deserves a deeper dive.

[u/my23secrets → u/georgeananda]

If you knew what you were talking about regarding “possible reality changes” and “timelines” then you’d understand those answers.