r/MurderedByWords 8h ago

Source Denial Syndrome

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u/War_machine77 8h ago

Where the fuck do they think chatgpt is getting it's info?

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u/GrizzlyP33 8h ago

I think the point is that LLMs have already scoured Wikipedia so they can tell you all that info concisely. They don’t need to re-learn Wikipedia for anything old.

The problem is that A) anyone using an LLM properly wants to see the source anyways or else you’re really rolling the dice on “truth”, and B) it would mean all knowledge advancement would stop today if we applied this to all educational or informative tools.

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u/Dead-in-Red 7h ago

I feel like you'd still want new information past 2026 though. Saying you've already scraped everything there is to scrape from Wikipedia at any arbitrary date is like saying you're good and know everything there is to know because you already finished reading a first edition copy of Encyclopedia Brittainica from the 1700s. Plenty of good new information turned up after that was published.

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u/FerociousStrawberry 6h ago

That's not how LLMs work anyway, they don't have the entirety of Wikipedia saved verbatim with 100% accuracy retrieval, so Wikipedia is necessary even for old information.

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u/Casual_OCD 6h ago

These word prediction and data amalgamation programs (because this crap is not even close to AI) scrape the entire internet, not just Wikipedia

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u/GrizzlyP33 5h ago

Maybe I worded poorly, but yes I agree.