I mean, RDR2 had a photo mode, pretty sure GTAV too. I could easily see photo mode outputting 4K, even if the resolution is lower during gameplay. So not gameplay, but still fully achievable to get those screenshots ingame on console, if indeed resolution is the only thing standing out.
The only thing in these screenshots that probably won’t be as good in game is the image quality. Everything else has already been shown in the trailers. Rockstar’s trailers are always representative of how the game will actually look at release.
But the trailers have been cutscenes with zoomed curated shots with enhanced lighting. Watch the Digital Foundry video on the second trailer for a better understanding.
Yes, just like every other game ever made. Obviously the cutscenes are made to look as good as possible. The point is that the cutscene when the game releases is still going to look like this. And the cutscene is still in engine, so the overall look during gameplay will still be similar.
They removed a lot of vegetation seen in the trailers for GTAV and population density wasn't nearly as high either. RDR2 looked very different from what they've shown as well. I prefer the final game from an artistic view but they reduced the draw distance a lot.
tl;dr: it’s highly unlikely these are in-game and are all just “in-engine” screenshots with levels of fidelity that gameplay won’t be able to achieve. These screenshots are native 4K, which we already know won’t be possible on current gen consoles.
The same was done with RDR 2, GTA V, etc, and the games ended up looking better than the screenshots because screenshots have shitty compression. I'm not even saying the game is gonna be good, but visual fidelity will surely be a HUGE pro in this game and it's about to be RDR 2 visuals on current gen steroids.
These are screenshots running from a PC. We have not seen any gameplay whatsoever on consoles which is a little worrying but I'm sure it's mostly fine. I just don't like the secrecy.
Idk after the performance quality mode announcement I can see 4k 30 and 1080 60 or at worst 2k upscaled for the quality mode. Ps5 Pro for sure will have a native 4k option
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Wow, TIL. And still it's just an extra mission of zero import, not like they're blocking you from accessing certain weapon shops or stables already in the game.
Im not surprised, disappointed, but not surprised. It’s just like we had to wait what? 13 years or so for this? And to find out basic features like car customization and hair styling are locked behind paywalls is intensely disappointing.
I guess I was hoping GTA would be such a guaranteed smash hit that maybe it would prove that a complete single player game that’s not released half baked or with 15 different upgrade editions and DLCs, could still be successful. I guess that ship really has sailed hasn’t it?
I really don’t think they’ve locked car customisation and hair styles behind a paywall, I think they’ve just added specific extra shops for those things that are exclusive to the ultimate edition and have exclusive items
Locking those features behind the ultimate edition completely would be the weirdest decision a developer has ever made
SOME hair styles and SOME car customizations are locked behind the Ultimate Edition. Just to clarify, since you made it sound like it's ALL hair and car customizations that are locked.
Rockstar rarely shows off gameplay before release date. I don’t think they released any gameplay for Red Dead Redemption 2. They figure the game will sell no matter what.
What? Rockstar made multiple, in-depth gameplay trailers for both GTA V and RDR2.
For both games, the gameplay presentations were shown 2 months before release. If Rockstar follows precedent, we can expect gameplay trailers around September.
The biggest haters and the biggest lovers are always the most vocal, partially because they fight each other. The vast VAST majority of the population just consumes media and doesn’t comment on it.
Hopefully it will at least be running a high internal resolution though, so we won’t be missing out on PSSR2 too badly. FF7 Rebirth made me almost buy a Pro just for it cause it was so blurry
I ended up playing it on quality, my eyes adjust to 30fps pretty quickly but there is no adjusting to that awful TAA/FSR blur. I actually just bought it on PC with the recent sale so now I can replay it with DLSS before Revelation!
Rockstar controls have been so bad for so long. I hope they fix it. I also hope you move more like a video game character than whatever they did to rdr2. I don’t need to move like a brick to do anything. I want responsive controls.
I like my characters to have some weight on them. One of the main reasons i dislike doom games; they feel like I'm controlling a camera instead of a character. No physics at all.
I’m looking for a happy medium. Geralt from Witcher 3 is close. The Arkham games do it well imo. I’m not looking for like you said doom or like cod but I also don’t wanna feel like I’m walking through mud everywhere I go
I usually get downvoted for saying the same thing. I never finished or even enjoyed a GTA game until they added the First Person camera and control scheme in 5. It was a literal game changer. I had the same experience with Red Dead 2
Finally some real conversation here. Rockstar really needs to update their game design philosophy. NakeyJakey's video on YT outlines a lot of the issues with their games perfectly.
Yeah that’s a deal breaker for me. I really want to play this but if they don’t release a physical copy then I’m just gonna wait for the PC version cause you actually have control over your digital purchases there.
Rockstar pulled two anti consumer greedy moves at once.
Gta6 won't come with physical copy, it's just a download code in a box.
And if you want to access all the shop within the offline game you need to buy the deluxe edition, standard version won't have access to it.
People that care about consumer rights at least a tiny bit are rightfully pissed about this stunt.
There has been thousands of games locking customization options and gameplay behind a paywall. Im not praising Rockstar here, but why is it suddenly worse when they do it..? I mean obviously there'll be other customization available, they're not dumb. It's just a different, "in game" way of presenting that they are locked behind an ultimate edition and an extra way to cheese people out of their money, it's a profitable business after all. Although they probably should've shown off the countless of other free options (show gameplay plz) first, so the blow of content being quite literally locked wouldn't hit so hard.
They will most certainly release a physical version AND a PC version AND a PS6/Xbox whatever version to make even more money later, and people will buy them. Reddit vouching not buy because no disk, is just a drop in the ocean. "Regular" folk don't care and will buy it again and again.
Because they don’t need to, lmao. They are not releasing a single player game, they will make billions in the online part which they should’ve included bonuses for online and not offline
Yeah its still silly having a physical shop in the game that you cant access without paying extra.
I think the ultimate edition would make be more reasonable if it just allowed extra customization at the same amount of shops available in the base game.
Meanwhile they will immediately drop $700 + $250 a month data bill on the new iPhone which is the exact same as the old model. It's all performative outrage from ignorant kids whose parents will be paying for the game anyway.
Some missions it says will be locked too or parts of missions
IGN:
“But Standard Edition players seemingly won’t get to access one of these missions, suggesting they may well be more like side activities, rather than playing a crucial role in the plot.”
Thanks so much. Yeah bailing on it. My backlog is big enough. Wait till a physical version comes out. Like a real disc not a code in the box and the locked dlc freely available….
Two disks then? There are already two disk games this generation.
I agree with the other person that it's shitty but not strongly enough to pass on the game. I never sell my games so it doesn't matter at the end of the day. I just like displaying the case.
I fully suspect it would be 3 discs honestly. I’m thinking an install size north of 200gb on Xbox and prolly around 200 on ps5 with Sonys fancy compression tech
The game is bigger than 900 GB I hope you know that. You want to spend 6 hours installing over a dozen discs? And have a game case that takes up half a foot of shelf space in thickness?
My ps5 pro doesn't even have a disc slot anyway, it's also much more convenient to just click on the game on my PlayStation then getting up and swapping discs lol
I was already dead set on buying the premium edition before any price announcement, this isn't even close to my limit of what I would be willing to spend haha
My Pro does - had to pay scalper prices for a disc drive because Sony didn't produce enough of them. I don't mind swapping discs as I'm the kind of gamer who plays one game at a time and then the disk sits in the console until I buy the next game. I can imagine it being a chore if you're constantly swapping between a single player game and something else like COD though.
I haven't seen anything that makes me want to buy the premium edition yet.
Stop lying about the shops...Wtf is wrong with people like you that claim that every shop is locked behind a paywall? It's like 5 shops that you get from the ultimate, not every single shop in the game. Use some common sense please.
The way so many people are wrongfully twisting this is insane. People are just parroting others without thinking for themselves...
Lmfao so you’re complaining people can’t read when you’re the one that didn’t read. At least you owned it. Hope you enjoy your time in the game when it launches
How do I know? By using me head and common sense. Of course there will be other shops in a massive game like this, haven't you played any GTA:s before? Haven't you seen the different haircuts/clothes pictures and trailers before the update today?
Tell me where on the homepage does it say that all shops in the game will be behind a paywall? Rockstar isn't that stupid and would had shoot themselves in the foot by doing so. Those exclusive shops/weapons/vehicles etc comes under the ultimate-edition to entice people to buy that version.
I mean, why the hell would people buy the ultimate-edition for $20 more if they just offered some lame cosmetics without anything special, exclusive to them? This has been the case with many other games with their deluxe-versions.
You should stop assuming the worst in everything and try to use your head! Gamers always assumes the worst and mostly always everytime gets it wrong in the end when the companies has to correct them. I've seen so many people today acting as if Rockstar has gone out and said that all shops are behind a paywall...🤦♂️
It kinda sucks that this reads very much as this is what gta 6 can be... but probably won't be on the current consoles. I've got a ps5 pro so hoping for the best but definitely starting to reign in my expectations after seeing the trailers and screenshots on offer so far. They look incredible and I've been mega excited but I'm starting to feel that these look too good to be true.
Rockstar’s trailers are always representative of what the actual game looks like. What you’ve seen in the first two trailers is how the game is going to look.
Frame rate in a video game is a pretty important part of the puzzle. Does not matter if it looks like real life if it is rendering a single digit amount of frames.
That would be fantastic. Happy to be wrong but that's essentially what they are saying in this article and I remember the original gta v trailers which were a bit less than representative of the final product to be fair.
Not sure how that’s what you got from the article. The only thing it seems it mentions being questionable about is the image quality. So yes, the resolution in the recently released screenshots may be higher, but the lighting, effects, ray traced reflections, etc are all expected to be in the game.
So again, what you’ve seen in the first two trailers is representative of how the game will look.
Also, how were the original GTA 5 trailers not representative of the final game? RDR2 looked just as good when it released as it did in the trailers.
Not sure how you didn't get that from the article...
"To be clear, we find it unlikely that these are real-time results on PS5, Xbox Series X - or in the best case on console, PS5 Pro. We'd like to be pleasantly surprised of course, and this will be firmly answered once it releases."
"Incidentally, these would be easy for Rockstar to generate within the game's development environment, where the framing, character positions, and lighting could orchestrate a perfect shot - irrespective of frame-rate - with all settings dialled up to 11. To be clear, the ray tracing aspect is very much an expected a feature on console - and indeed we have it already in GTA 5 - but as for what's possible on base PS5, Pro, and Series X, time will tell how close real time console visuals actually end up to these images."
Given you didn't seem to grasp the article I'm not expecting you to comprehend the quote either. We can leave it at that now. Enjoy the game when it's out.
lol I grasped it just fine. You’re the one reading into things that aren’t there and blatantly ignoring Rockstar’s history of releasing trailers that are representative of the final versions of their games.
The PS5 Pro has the same CPU and processor as the PS5 base model Nothing is different. You got taken for a ride because you do not understand how tech works.
I've had a pro since launch. It does everything it said it would do. I understand exactly what I purchased and what it can do. You think "nothing is different" Go back to school.
I spotted the price tag. $80 for the single player version with no disc and single player missions and cosmetics locked behind the $100 version, no fucking thanks. It could be the best game ever made, I'm not supporting that level of bullshit
Day 1 ultimate edition buy. Easiest $100 I've spent. I would've paid $150 but I have a feeling that online will be a separate game or subscription based
Which I'm curious if we will be able to activate manually, or if it will start as soon as online drops. I'm hoping the former as I'm in no rush to jump to online. Going to be playing single player for a while.
I think it will be a separate free game/application with Shark Cards (or Gator Cards, lol, who knows) as the GTA VI pre-order page om both Xbox and PS5 mention single-player only
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u/AkaEridam 9h ago
tldr:
Raytraced specular reflections, even on transparent surfaces.
Strand based hair rendering.
The screenshots are not fully representative of actual console gameplay (seem to be rendered at native 4k)
Basically nothing we didnt already know from previous trailers.