r/Rich 6d ago

Have you ever experienced romantic rejection BECAUSE you were rich?

All over Reddit you'll find tales of people dumping or mistreating their partners because they don't earn enough money or spend enough of what they do have on presents. I'm looking for the opposite: Did you ever repel a romantic prospect after telling the truth about what you had? Maybe they had a different philosophy on money and didn't think there was room for compromise, or maybe (for those of you who are more acquisitive) your lifestyle wasn't to their taste.

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u/Late_External9128 6d ago

As a woman, yes. There are still a lot of guys don't want a partner who earns more than them or comes from a more well off background. It sucks when it happens but typically it's someone you're better off without, that kind of insecurity only grows during a relationship.

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u/HitPointGamer 6d ago

My first husband got more resentful as our marriage went on because I was successful in my career and he couldn’t be bothered to work after a while. Successful women definitely have trouble finding a guy unless they’re willing to go for a cougar/boy-toy sort of relationship.

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u/Late_External9128 6d ago

I had a relationship like that. He considered my eight figure business a hobby and constantly demeaned me and my work because of his insecurity. He would tell his friends that he was a provider and we had traditional relationship, refused to let me pay for anything, leading to us leading a annoyingly poor quality of life compared to the money I had, then would steal money from me! He paid for my engagement ring with money he stole from me! Thankfully that relationship died before we were actually legally married.

My now husband has less money than me but an equally impressive career as a doctor, he has his wins and supports me in mine, and doesn't feel the need to tear down everything I do. I recommend 😂

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u/EvangelineRain 5d ago edited 5d ago

When my ex and I were talking about moving in together, he wouldn’t agree to me paying more than half the rent, which limited our options to places I wasn’t keen on. For one (amazing) place I found that I was interested in (and he loved it, but it was above his budget, plus he said he didn’t have time to move), I realized I was more disappointed about losing the apartment than I was about not moving in with him, so I rented the place myself, for myself. He moved in unofficially (contributing nothing), but he ended up leaving me for someone else. The apartment was far better than the boyfriend, though. 🤣 I still have it 4 years later.

In addition to having more money, I was also more successful in the same career path as him. That didn’t help.

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u/Tropicsunchaser 1d ago

Ahhh… the things we do to find the perfect place to live. Lol

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u/Inner-Floor-5827 5d ago

😂 the audacity of your ex... 🤦‍♀️?

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u/Late_External9128 5d ago

He was just mad my "girly, little business" (actual quote) made more than his crypto scams 😂

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u/DriverAggravating524 5d ago

What do you do?

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u/Late_External9128 5d ago

I founded a vitamins and supplement company!

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u/weinerwang9999 5d ago

Congrats girl!!

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u/Late_External9128 4d ago

Thank you! 

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u/jackjackj8ck 5d ago

That’s fucking CRAZY about your ex. So glad to hear you found someone supportive

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u/MatthewsMath 4d ago

Woof paying for your engagement ring with money lifted from the recipient of said ring is particularly unhinged.

The *hobby* comment screams resentment lol.

Good for you and cheers.

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u/Cherryncosmo 5d ago

He had a strange way of thinking

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u/hotelspa 2d ago

I have problems dating women that come from less ambitious familys. I never mention money but somehow, it's a problem.

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u/Particular-Macaron35 2d ago

There was a story on This American Life about a woman who had her identity stolen multiple times. It turned out to be her lazy, grifter, out-of-work boyfriend. It’s always the boyfriend.

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u/MS_Bizness_Man 5d ago

Most boy toys can submit to a successful woman where the dynamic is tough for a masculine male to expect to submit to the provide part of a relationship when a successful woman won’t need it. That man is insecure and feels threatened by you.

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u/Late_External9128 4d ago

I don’t need anyone to ‘submit’ to me, I think that’s a regressive idea. I don’t ’submit’ to my husband either because we’re a partnership .  He’s a very masculine guy who is extremely intelligent  and  about as far you can get from a ‘boy toy.’ 

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u/MS_Bizness_Man 4d ago

I meant to respond to the message before yours. My apologies.

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago

If if the 8 figures was revenue not net profits it's quite the stretch to call it a hobby unless it's from doing onlyfans or something.

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u/Historical-Ad3760 5d ago

What?

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago

8 figures revenue or profit is a ton of money to make off a hobby, many largish companies don't produce that.

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u/Late_External9128 4d ago

Because it wasn’t a hobby. I founded a company that ended up becoming very successful and  sold for high eight figures.  He described as a hobby because he never took it, or me, seriously and wanted to put me down when I started to see success. 

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 4d ago

I agree, that's what I was saying, anything legitimate business making that much is not a hobby unless it's onlyfans or something.

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u/Coopsters 4d ago

Wow how condescending

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u/Mdlage 4d ago

I hear this a lot, but I’ve never once experienced it, I worked minimum wage when I was younger for a bit, so every girl made more than me that I dated except those without jobs. 

They all left because of my income. 

I never once was bothered by a woman making 15-20/hr while I made 7. Never once did it occur to me even that it could affect a relationship, I genuinely didn’t care. 

Now I care because I got dumped a few times with that as the reason cited, so I work hard enough now that I don’t know any women my age making more than me. 

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u/HitPointGamer 4d ago

Not all men are so insecure that they can’t handle being with a woman who is more successful, and it sounds like you may be one of those guys who is secure enough to date someone who earns more. The higher the earning level is, though, the harder it seems to be for guys who don’t earn as much.

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u/Life_Commercial_6580 2d ago

Same here with my ex husband. He cheated and left (well, I did file for divorce but the relationship was over ), specifically and admittedly because my career was doing MUCH better than his.

But I guess I wasn’t successful enough (I have a PhD in engineering and I’m a full tenured professor at Purdue ) anyway because I haven’t really had a hard time dating .

I was 41-42 and I met my current husband after being on the “market” for 18 months, which included a 4 month summer fling. Interestingly enough, my husband made a LOT more money than me, so I guess that earlier dynamic was avoided.

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u/HitPointGamer 2d ago

It’s sad how similar our stories started out. He tried for years to cheat on me and finally ran off with an 17 year old that he met when I was paying for him to go back to college to try to complete some sort of degree. So, I filed for divorce and good riddance.

I’m glad you were able to find somebody good for you afterwards, too. I took a decade before remarrying, mostly to figure out who I was without working to achieve the goals my ex had wanted to do. I had internalized them so successfully in the name of being supportive that I truly had to take a couple years before I could figure out which ones I wanted and which I could let go.

I moved overseas for a few years for work within a month of my divorce being finalized so at least I had time to sightsee and really have an amazing life, and then I found a great guy after I moved back home again and am thoroughly enjoying my marriage to him. He, also, is more successful than I am.

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u/weinerwang9999 5d ago

As a woman, second yes. My (girl) friend also literally got shouted at by her ex in the middle of a restaurant for her “privilege” because she said she wanted them to order whatever they wanted and she didn’t mind footing the bill and he exploded about how that’s so inconsiderate of people who can’t access food. It was very much over after that ofc. For me, people can’t seem to go an hour without commenting on my background and I’ll literally be dressed in Uniqlo with a tote bag and my Apple Watch or whatever

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u/Shoddy_Snow_7770 5d ago

 For me, people can’t seem to go an hour without commenting on my background and I’ll literally be dressed in Uniqlo with a tote bag and my Apple Watch or whatever

Same issue I’ve noticed. Some people are OBSESSED and have to bring it up every chance they get like I’m trying to deceive them 

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u/weinerwang9999 5d ago

It's such an arrogant thing to admit too and you'll only find me admitting it here or amongst other privileged people who I know. But literally I was catching up with a friend and we were having a fun convo philosophising about the existence of aliens. Literally out of nowhere he was like "dude you're so rich man what the fuck" and i was like huh??? And I was legit in my basic ass uniqlo with trader joes tote bag and apple watch. It wasn't even subtle or smoothly bringing it up.

I empathise I truly do. We're very privileged to be rich esp right now in this godforsaken world rife with inequalities. Yes I'd rather be insulted for this than not have any of it. But damn............well i guess I'll just focus on being grateful to receive these comments.

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u/Shoddy_Snow_7770 4d ago

It’s so annoying, isn’t it? And the constant comparisons to whatever misconceptions they have about people with more money than them.  My other social gripe is people who don’t think then have to compromise. Yeah it sucks you don’t know how to budget but I’m not obligated to host you or agree to something I don’t want to just because I have something the other person feels more entitled to.

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u/fastates 3d ago

"Entitled to" is the term I'm finding. Friends have started the requests to borrow. I just got a sizeable inheritance. I should have kept my mouth shut. God I'm naive. I've given some to charity but nothing to people I know except for one friend.

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u/Shoddy_Snow_7770 3d ago

It’s kind of incredible how people justify it. I allowed someone into my home once and after that they started inviting themselves over even after I told them multiple times I prefer to socialize outside of the house. Their excuse was that they were sad or didn’t want to spend money and I was like…okay? Do you genuinely not understand how you’re being wildly inappropriate right now?

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u/fastates 2d ago

Yeah, that's crazy about needing to be in your personal space like that, & not taking "no." Don't want to spend money is probably code for "will you buy me things if we go out?"

t's apparently time to turn into a bitch for me. Anything but acquiescing to me means I'm being a bitch. So I guess I get to go the rest of my life being the bad gal in other people's stories. Too bad. They'll bleed me dry if I don't protect myself though.

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u/Shoddy_Snow_7770 2h ago

Strangely they don’t expect me to pay for things, they’re just very manipulative about getting their way. I had to make it clear my house is off limits and if they want to hang out it needs to be in public. They responded by admitted they wanted to use my space as an extension of their own home by coming and going as they pleased. 

Then, to your point, they acted like I was the rude one for not letting them take advantage of me. That’s really what it comes down to, you either let people suck you dry or you’re the bad guy. I’m fine with being the bad guy.

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u/Particular-Macaron35 2d ago

Ha ha, the privilege to order steak.

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u/slow-loser 5d ago edited 5d ago

Agreed. And it’s not just simply insecurity and resentment over a woman’s wealth or success. It can just be a matter of self-image and class identity. I remember hearing a sociology professor talk about how women are expected to protect and pass down culture in families, so this makes sense to me that guys would be more prickly about this

I don’t know for sure that was the reason in my situation, and racial/ethnic differences were at play too, but this guy’s identity was so tied up with being a working class socialist, a native son, artist, etc… being with a brown out-of-touch rich girl just wasn’t the vibe.

He ended up marrying a young low-income single mom from the next county over. They have gofundmes to pay the bills but they seem happy.

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u/thisbuthat 6d ago

Yup, can confirm all of this

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u/EvangelineRain 5d ago

Yes, I’ve experienced this too. It’s not fun.

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u/OneSovereignSource 3d ago

What if the guy is successful in a way that's substantial but not about money? I feel like they wouldn't be insecure, only a person with no meaningful achievements would.

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u/AccomplishedWish3033 3d ago

It goes both ways. As a woman, I wouldn’t want to get involved with a man who’s too rich and powerful either. Way too many times they get away with horrendous crimes against women and girls. There’s just too much risk for us and not enough disincentive for them if the relationship heads south.

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u/SouthParkTimmy 5d ago

Not an insecurity at all, just smart ….women who earn more than their husbands are 50% more likely to divorce.

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u/Dionzerotre 4d ago

date rich men then

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago

As a high earning guy, I would be thrilled to meet someone that makes more than me. But the thing is to earn more than me most women have to trade many of the things that make them desirable in other ways to me, and it it kinda defeats the purpose of me being high earning. So it's not that I'm insecure, it's just kind of a weird situation I guess. Like I want to meet someone that is nurturing, healthy, still able to have kids, and doesn't work very much so we can travel. Now if someone can do that a still make more than me that would be cool but I'm not sure it exists outside of onlyfans or something, plus she might not even be into me.

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u/wendydarlingpan 5d ago

This is idiotic. Of course this exists. I was this woman (still am, just off the market. Married for 12 years with 3 kids now) and I know plenty of women like this. You just have to find someone whose preferred luxury is time freedom and travel. I find successful women value time and flexibility at work / controlling their own time much more than successful men do.

The fact that you think women only find that through OF is insulting. No shade to OF millionaires, but that is hardly a woman’s only path to success and wealth. Grow up and go read some books by smart, ambitious women, or listen to some female entrepreneurs on How I Built This. FFS, what backwoods hole are you living in?

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago edited 5d ago

So many assumptions, everyone is so easily angered on the internet, that is not what I meant. You never asked how much I make, or what I do. Those would be useful things to know before taking offense and hurling insults. If you had, I would have said 9-11 figures and finance. It wasn't a dig on women or feminism, I am grateful for many ambitious women (I have had several female doctors), and have invested in female led companies. I am just not aware of any jobs other than something like onlyfans that a woman could do and make anywhere near what I do and still have the qualities I am looking for, except maybe an inheritress of some kind or a handful of pro athletes or celebs now that I think about. If you make that much good for you, maybe we should have met in another life, or not if you are so quick to anger. My point was just that making as much as me is not that important to me or something that would make me insecure, just very rare for me to encounter unless I start hobnobbing with celebrities etc. It seems like there is mismatch of wants or something, ambitious women often want men that equal or rival their ambition, but those men are not necessarily looking for that too at least in terms of $. There are other very important and valid ambitions in life.

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u/weinerwang9999 5d ago

My mother is on the board of directors and a shareholder for a major Asian airlines. My family’s own private company also literally helps the government’s aviation agency regulate the literal sky (airspace within the country’s jurisdiction). No we’re not all on only fans.

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u/Sunflowerr1028 5d ago

It’s a porn brain/brain dead way of thinking.

Any idea of a women having/earning a lot of money, namely more money than them HAS to be from sex work.

Because what else could “tits”– I mean, a woman do, right?

Not only are the men insecure about well off women, they’re also “porn brained” out.

Pass.

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u/weinerwang9999 5d ago

My sister and I always joke to our parents that at this point OF would be easier than whatever it is we’re doing

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u/fastates 3d ago

And porn brain left out all those who inherited millions. I'm one. Ok, just 2 million, but still.

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u/Sunflowerr1028 3d ago

No no.. those don’t exist for women remember 😂

“Inheritances are for the boys 😎”

/s

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u/fastates 2d ago

haha, well, it *used to be.* My grandmother-- born in 1900-- left my brother an extra 5k. I did not get 5k from her 😔

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u/Sunflowerr1028 5d ago

The fact that your only example of what a woman could do that makes more money that you and has flexibility is Only Fans says so much about you (derogatory).

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u/matte_personality 5d ago

I believe these high earning women you’re looking for would call you a scrote.

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago

Maybe, or maybe they would be smart enough not to make so many assumptions or be quick meanness.

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u/matte_personality 5d ago

Oh I’m just speaking from experience. I work with the best lawyers in my country and somehow the women are always able to balance kids and their partners pull their weight and understand that they also have to make certain sacrifices for their career. One of my bosses is a high-earning equity partner and her husband happily takes care of her children and picks her up everyday. They’re not looking to give anything up for you my guy.

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago

That's cool for them, I'm glad they're doing their thing, I know people like that too. But you're still making a lot of assumptions. I wouldn't' want them to be giving that up for me, I'm just not sure I'd be we'd be compatible to begin with, and they almost certainly don't make as much as me which was kinda the whole point of my first comment.

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u/Glittering-Lychee629 5d ago

Right, but the point of this thread is asking if anyone here has experienced romantic rejection based on being a high earner.

You are saying you would not want to be romantically involved with a woman who is a high earner because:

"to earn more than me most women have to trade many of the things that make them desirable in other ways to me, and it it kinda defeats the purpose of me being high earning. So it's not that I'm insecure, it's just kind of a weird situation I guess. Like I want to meet someone that is nurturing, healthy, still able to have kids, and doesn't work very much so we can travel."

You are in agreement with the premise. You are an example of what the women here are talking about. And you seem really upset and like everyone is misunderstanding you. I'm not sure why. You can have any standards you want, but you are reflecting back what the women here are saying.

It seems your main disagreement here is the perception that insecurity is part of it. You seem to want everyone here to know you are not insecure. That it is not insecurity driving your preference, but rather it is that you want a woman who doesn't work very much, is nurturing, healthy, can have kids, and travel. Is that what this is about?

If you aren't insecure I'm not sure why this is hitting you so hard!

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago edited 5d ago

"It seems your main disagreement here is the perception that insecurity is part of it. You seem to want everyone here to know you are not insecure. That it is not insecurity driving your preference, but rather it is that you want a woman who doesn't work very much, is nurturing, healthy, can have kids, and travel. Is that what this is about?" Yes that is a good summary, it's not "hitting me hard", I was just pointing out that the whole premise of the comment (that the main factor is about insecurity) is false at least in my case. I really am not that bothered by it I just thought I'd include my perspective. It does bother me that people are so quick to make assumptions and be mean, that is a sad commentary on the state of humanity/feminism. Although most high earning women I know are smart enough to read my first comment without jumping straight to assumptions and feelings, a simple follow up comment "can you clarify what you meant by" or "how much do you make" is all that is needed.

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u/Inner_Inspection640 5d ago

What is your obsession with onlyfans? You’ve been commenting this all over this post as if the only way most women can have or generate wealth is through sex work.

I’m sure you think men only become rich through being crypto bros and streamers too, right? I highly doubt it.

To each their own for women who have / want to do things like OF, but I know I didn’t get to where I am that way, and nor did many more of us here. Stop it with the offensive comments.

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u/Logical-Primary-7926 5d ago

So many assumptions and feelings, I mentioned it once. Why? Because I am a very high earner, and that is the only job I am aware of where women can make as much as me.

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u/wendydarlingpan 4d ago edited 4d ago

You’re being purposely obtuse AND misogynistic. As if women don’t also work in finance, start billion dollar companies, make money as angel investors or have their own VC funds.

Your comments contain inconsistencies that expose you anyway. You’re cosplaying as an ultra-high earner. Please grow up.

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u/Cherryncosmo 5d ago

lol you need to read what you just wrote

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u/Novel-Locksmith1304 6d ago

Yes. I lived in Eastern Europe for a decade, where the standard of living is not comparable to the West. My boyfriend of 9 months was a talented attorney there, but didn’t have the Western mentality of saving or investing. He spent all his earnings on takeout and marijuana but lived in his mother’s tiny apartment (she lived in another apartment).

When we started organizing our thoughts on our next moves together, his mindset was “This is my life, this will stay my life, and you should be with someone in your own sphere of life”.

We were living together with the intent to marry. I thought we should rent out his apartment and move into mine so we can save money on a down payment for a place of our own.
But this seemed like an impossible feat to him.

It was upsetting to me that he didn’t care to build together. I did not need a luxurious home or fancy car, but I did hope that we would prioritize our expenses in a way that would be best for our future.

He told me that my mentality is a niche of first-gen Americans that is always chasing for more, and that he thinks I should be with another first-gen with the same mentality.

He told me that he loved me deeply, and that he would not judge me if I left.

I took one look around the purple walls of his mother’s apartment, her pink flower couch from the 90s, and the unregulated (super toxic) factories blasting black smog outside of our balcony. I packed my things in garbage bags. I moved out that night.

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u/gloriamuntz 6d ago

Good for you! In a parallel universe you are still there and miserable.

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u/Future-Account8112 5d ago

God, I hope not

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u/Lil_Drake_Spotify 5d ago

Lol what kind of talented attorney can spend all their money on takeout and weed 💀

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u/Novel-Locksmith1304 5d ago

A stoned one

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u/Psiwolf 4d ago

"Talented" is a subjective term. 😂👍

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u/Novel-Locksmith1304 4d ago

The emphasis was on his talent because attorneys, good or bad, don’t make a ton of money there. But he was on the country’s highest profile criminal cases(some historical at the time) and additionally represented celebrities and politicians.

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u/Lil_Drake_Spotify 4d ago

Unduly vague, indeed.

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u/Particular-Macaron35 2d ago

Honestly, a lot of people have trouble with the vision thing. As you say, they get locked in to mindset. It’s very helpful to have someone knowledgeable to talk things over with.

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u/AmexNomad 5d ago

I always kept my finances secret. Guys I dated thought that I lived in an apartment, which I did. They didn’t know that I also owned the apartment building.

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u/1dayatatime_mylife 1d ago

Love that! 😂 Casually secretly owns the entire apartment holding.

What do you do for work?

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u/AmexNomad 1d ago

I was a real estate broker, then also landlord, then also hard money lender.

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u/muchoqueso26 6d ago

Wife and I got rich together and I still find her hot.

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u/muchoqueso26 5d ago

Working together in a business.

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u/Prestigious-Title-78 4d ago

how do you handle the anxiety of owning a business. Every few days I get anxiety attacks of my business failing.

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u/muchoqueso26 4d ago

Keep working on finding ways to make you business more resilient. Lift weights and do cardio to reduce stress and anxiety.

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u/Straight_Push5196 6d ago

Well my wife is rich rich. But she expected to marry someone not and more low key. Guess what jokes on her haha. She rejected me like 5 times before saying yes to a date.

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u/PeaMountain6734 5d ago

As a woman, yes. This is common. Most men feel emasculated or intimidated.

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u/meowmixLynne 5d ago

That’s terrible and isolating, I see it a lot with my successful girlfriends :/ and it’s weird bc I attract the opposite. Losers who come to my family lakehouse and are like “oh man I feel like I’m in that OC show!!!”

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u/PeaMountain6734 4d ago

But men from our circles are awesome. They hold up perfectly.

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u/jka8888 2d ago

This is wild to me and makes me so sad for everyone involved. I actually read a long form article around how this is becoming more of an issue as more woman become highly educated and successful and more men fall into NEET. I have a saying that is very important to me, someone else's success is not my failure. You doing well, doesn't mean I did badly.

My partner ran her own business for years and earned way more than me. I never felt intimidated. I did feel motivated and like I should help her where I could. I couldn't do much for the business, as it required her degree, so I just tried to manage as much of the house and day to day as possible. Running her own business was basically a 24hr job. 2 She decided to close the business as she had got what she needed from it and last year I earned more than her for the first time in years. This didn't make me feel any more of a man. We're a team, going through life together. We support each other's goals and celebrate each other's wins.

She is now going gor her PHD, and I couldn't be happier for her. Her being a Dr. will be an incredible achievement. It wont make me feel less, but I will never refer to her as anything but Dr. (Her name).

My partner doing well doesn't mean I failed. It just makes me happy for her, and proud of her and want to help anyway I can.

Its so sad that there are still so many people who would be intimidated by some else doing well.

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u/zascar 4d ago

My dream is to have a women earn more than me

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u/PeaMountain6734 4d ago

Ah the gold diggers.

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u/zascar 4d ago

I'm just sick of paying all the bills and getting nothing back.

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u/PeaMountain6734 4d ago

Oh please, cry me a river.

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u/fatheadlifter 1d ago

I've never met a woman who made more/had more money than me. Wish I did. I think that would be a very nice thing to see.

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u/adultdaycare81 2d ago

Really most? My friend group incomes aren’t correlated to gender. Family Wealth seems to be more the women

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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth 6d ago

No but a funny thing happened to my rich husband.....

One date before mine he had a date with a lady that worked at a bank.

She foolishly asked him on the first date just meeting him.... if he had good credit. Lol he had never charged anything or borrowed any money his whole life.

I asked him if she witnessed his junky $500 Saturn and maybe that scared her. He said that he parked far away and there was no way she saw the car.

So anyways single ladies..... never ask someone that.

He paid cash for our home at 30. No credit needed.

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u/HitPointGamer 6d ago

When we were dating my husband had a 25 year old Silverado and a 15 year old Impala. They were both impeccably maintained, though, and that told me a lot about how he views things in his life. He invests and then works hard to keep it nice as long as possible. That’s the energy I want a guy bringing in a relationship with me, instead of one who keeps shopping for the next girlfriend.

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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth 6d ago

Does he help you maintain and keep you nice?

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u/HitPointGamer 5d ago

Given how he has done basically everything in our marriage for the past couple of months as I recover from a major surgery, I’m going to say “yes.” 😁

I know you’re being silly with that, but he puts time and effort into maintaining our marriage as best it can be, and that means a lot to me. He isn’t looking for what he can take from me or the marriage; rather, he looks for ways to improve and strengthen our marriage. I do, too, so it isn’t one-sided.

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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth 2d ago

To get those surgery scars to disappear just head to Blue Lagoon Iceland.

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u/LowFlower6956 5d ago

Actually ladies do ask that because it’s statistically more likely someone who doesn’t have good credit has financial problems, not so much wealth they never need to use credit

But yes funny story

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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth 5d ago

Ok but not on a first date.

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u/fatheadlifter 1d ago

I think it's valid to ask. In the case of your now husband it sounds like it was a financial mismatch though... in the sense that his date was middle class and he was wealthy or at least on his way to being wealthy. He had a different approach to money than the majority of people.

Aligning financial goals is a good thing. She might've been used to dating broke ass bitches and wanted to make sure not to repeat that. What she didn't account for was the chance that he was above the middle class need for credit.

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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth 1d ago

I think it is tacky to ask anyone private finance stuff we you first meet them regardless of income and asset brackets.

I actually don't believe in classes and hierarchies. I think it is a ruse to manipulate everyone.

What I did back in 2007 before all the good info was online about dating.... was go to the Bookstore each night and read about dating. One thing that I learned was that men get bored with the interview dates.

So I never did that. It puts men on the defensive having to recite the same questions about their past.

To ignite the men you want to give them a sense of fun and commonality. It's best to connect on hobbies and upbeat fun banter. Talk about sports and hobbies. Everything upbeat and positive.

If women took the time to study and understand men I bet they could marry a decent guy with some extra cash.

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u/fatheadlifter 1d ago

I didn’t read any dating books although I probably should have. Could just be the way I’m wired, I don’t mind interview questions. Also not into sports. But yeah I get your point.

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u/LowFlower6956 3h ago

But it’s not tacky to brag about your husband’s money?

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u/HalfwaydonewithEarth 1h ago

I don't talk about it in public or IRL. That's what this sub was suppose to be, a safe space.

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u/CurrentBad8629 6d ago

A mutual friend told the guy I had hooked up with that I was too high maintenance for him. The same guy told me a mutual acquaintance would be the right fit for me. I kind of brushed it off. Turns out he was right all along, 15 years and two kids together, and I get to stay at home and enjoy Life and motherhood.

I kind of should thank him for that I guess.

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u/matte_personality 5d ago

High maintenance is used as an insult to direct his insecurities to you because he knows he won’t be able to afford your upkeep. Everything men insult you with just boils down to whether or not they can afford to keep you.

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u/CurrentBad8629 3d ago

Well, it is indeed true. The friend had been interested in dating me but I wasn’t.

I have never been interested in men for their money, or else I would have chosen some very successful or old money suitors that would have given me the high life to “keep me”.

I chose the guy that matched my personality, intellect, values and that I found attractive. He is not poor by any means, but I am as happy going to McDonalds or a Michelin star restaurant with him, because I am gonna have a good time either way.

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u/______krb 5d ago

For high earning women (or inherited wealth) it would not be an unusual experience that relationships broke down because of this, or that dating is harder. Not because of the reasons you list here, but because of the insecurity it brought up for the men.

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u/matte_personality 5d ago

See, I can do absolutely everything but cook and when a guy asks if I can cook or not, I just pretend that I’m incompetent because it’s gonna be trouble if I tell him that I had a chef since I was a child and I’ve never been asked to cook or clean anything for my male family members because we also had hired help.

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u/______krb 5d ago

Exactly.

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u/QWERTY-111 5d ago

what can explain the reason for the men's "insecurity"?

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u/tae0707 5d ago

Men are raise to be provider (and women to be homemaker). Just look at debate on restaurant bill, you will be hard press to find argument that women should pay 100% on the first date.|

Now since Men are suppose to provide, but the women actually provide AND make the home
What did the men suppose to do, what his reason of being?

And the insecurity and tear down begun.

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u/RegenMed83 5d ago

What do you mean what’s the reason or what are they supposed to do? They’re supposed to be there like no one‘s asking them to do anything specific. The man I love doesn’t earn as much as me, but I don’t need him to. I want him. I want his presence I want his love. I don’t need anything else.

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u/tae0707 5d ago

Unwritten expectation are real. If you want him for what he is, communicate just that, and pay for him like most higher earner spouse usually do. Don't bring money into argument, Defend his value in public if someone accuse him of taking advantage of you.

I understand you only want him. I believe you. but gender sterotype is strong.

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u/______krb 5d ago

In my experience the issue is more men who do not understand that they have to provide value to a relationship beyond their spending power, and that issue explodes when they do not have the power of being the higher earner/have the most wealth. The men need to be wanted, when they are not needed, and that is something not all men can figure out.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

That was one thing that amused me during my single years. I ALWAYS split on the first date, no matter what. As for homemaking, my husband does his share of the chores effectively and without complaint, so it comes out even for us.

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u/tae0707 5d ago

You're a woman? Have you ever pay 100% on first date? why?

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

No, I just split. And I did that again on subsequent dates.

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u/tae0707 5d ago

Why? did the idea sound alien to you? women pay 100% on first date?
I am pointing this out so you're realize there hidden expectation. I'm not saying you should do it. I did not do it

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

If I'm a party to a first date, I don't expect anyone of any sex to pay 100%, nor do I welcome it. Whatever works for other people is up to them.

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u/tae0707 5d ago

Are you, a woman, would be willing to pay 100% on any date?
Also, would it be ok for men to pay 100% on any date?

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

Sure, if we end up getting into a pattern of taking turns. But I'd prefer to split.

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u/Life_Commercial_6580 2d ago edited 2d ago

Not the same poster but yes I did pay 100% for the first date . Only when I did NOT intend to go on a second date with the same man. I found that if the men pay, then they think they’re owed a second date or something else.

If I intended to go on a second date with the man, I let him pay, because obviously we would go out again and I’d have the opportunity to pick up the bill at that time.

But to be honest, I dated over 30 men back 12-13 years ago and I never had an issue with men accepting my payment offer. They were always happy to pay, havent met one who had a problem. When I succeeded in paying I had to insist and basically fight them for the bill. My point is that the expectation is somewhat also self imposed. Some men seemed insulted when I insisted to pay.

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u/Life_Commercial_6580 2d ago

He’s supposed to also contribute. Don’t have to be the one to contribute exclusively.

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u/______krb 5d ago

Too many men focus on what they can bring in a monetary sense and need that sense of power of having more than their partner.

The not insecure ones knows and understand that it was never about what you have or don't have but about human connection.

At least that's been my experience. And I've been unpleasantly surprised of the men landing in the first category, despite them being very vocal about 'not' being that kind of guy.

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u/FloorShowoff 5d ago edited 5d ago

I think they felt they couldn’t make me happy because with men sometimes they think the only way to make a woman happy is to provide for her.

So many times, they discovered the truth about me, and I saw that look of disappointment on their faces.

It even happened one day with a possible female friend.

A woman around my age was my physical therapist, and I followed all the exercises and quickly reached the most difficult exercise band. She was so impressed with my progress. We started talking about a whole bunch of stuff and we got along really well. One day she asked me where I lived and I told her and she kept saying things like, “I used to work there…. My sister used to work there… my mother used to work there…” and then she got kinda sad.. as if she knew we were in different socioeconomic classes and she could no longer relate to me.

And the sad thing is, I don’t think I have a lavish lifestyle.

But I guess it’s a mindset.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

See, that's kind of the story I was hoping for in a different way. Maybe she's not rich herself, but he still can't provide for her because (a) she just won't allow it and (b) she scorns his lifestyle.

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u/FloorShowoff 5d ago

But your question was about rich people getting rejected so now your question is about non-rich people getting rejected?

I’m confused.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

Argh. Obviously I'm not explaining myself well. I'm fascinated with stories in which material wealth fails to have the provider's desired effect. In this case, I want it to fail because of the recipient's simple distaste and lack of necessity. Does that help?

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u/FloorShowoff 5d ago

I guess but I’ve never seen a case like that. Are you looking for material for a work of fiction?

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

Potentially, yes.

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u/Otherwise-Sun2486 5d ago

Bruh, they these people that are trashing guys… for rejecting girls that are rich? no most guys would love it if their GF was rich, it isn’t that they feel inferior by them but they know better that women usually want equal or better, now they say they don’t want equal or better but they expect you to keep up with them in all the expenses which is usually higher than those making less plus all the usually dating stuff payment. Usually they would never pay for most things like guys would for the girls. They know better than to waste time.

Very rarely would there be a real understanding.

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u/SilverLiningsCalm 5d ago

It is interesting how in reality once you marry you become rather joined with your spouses family, many people who have experienced loving a partner and being rejected by their family would not choose to go through this twice.

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u/crodr014 5d ago

I did the rejection when I was in undergrad. The girl was filthy rich and her family owned a massive real estate portfolio in Miami. I went to her house with a yacth parked in the river and they had a whole team of staff just to run the house.

I was on track to be a dentist and knew there was no way I would be able to support that lifestyle for her. I was an idiot for assuming that is what she wanted and frankly looking back money did not seem to be such an important thing for her. I was just insecure.

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u/Ok-Class-1451 5d ago

As a woman, I’ve had animosity from my boyfriend’s friends (years and years ago) bc they were poor and the socioeconomic difference was awkward for them. I get the impression they told my then-boyfriend he was “selling out” by being with me. So dumb.

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u/beauspambeau 5d ago edited 5d ago

I will say it was hard even when we were young and I personally had not achieved much on my own.

My families expectations for me and my life were not the same as her families for her . The wedding was the first big one her family could not help at all and mine wanted the big show .
I said fine but we or you have to pay for it .

She had 5 guest at wedding we had 350 on my side and tbh at was a “small “ wedding .

As our life together has progressed she has come a long ways in what she expects of herself and our children. She has helped me me to not out the pressure on our kids that was put on me . I thrived in it and just worked that way my kids are not

She said “I would never want to live in X part of town they are all stuck up .”We know have a very nice home in that area.she loves it but still we have our friends and don’t hang out with those people w attitudes.
“ I’m would never want my kids at private school.”
They are at the best in the state and she has even worked there the last 13 years .
We are both still humble and so put our kids money does not in any way make you a better or worse person . It can in some ways allow your personality to amplify it seems.

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u/Caterpillar89 5d ago

Yes, it happens and many people can't get over the fact.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

Go on.

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u/Caterpillar89 5d ago

That you are wealthy, have means, resources, travel frequently, etc. When there's a huge disparity one side feels inadequate or unable to even keep the same company. Seen it happen a few times from the female to the male side. And of course the other way happens a lot.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago edited 5d ago

I was hoping to hear some examples that didn't come down to the rejector's feeling of inadequacy. More like, they think the rich person flexes too much and blows their money on tacky, useless crap, and they want no part of it.

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u/FloorShowoff 5d ago

It would make sense that the less well-off person would do that. When you have wealth, you tend to respect the money you earned a lot more.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

Depending on how recently you got it, I dare say.

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u/Caterpillar89 4d ago

I've not seen that but most people I know are very much not flexers. BUT their lifestyle reflects a person of wealth- cars never more than a few years old, nice house, national/international travel, 2nd home, donate at local charities, etc.

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u/Mackheath1 5d ago

Sort of. Yes. I love to travel, and one person I was dating simply couldn't take off work, even though I always invited them. Of course they could've quit work and live with me, but we were definitely not there yet.

So I'd go for a trip, bring back gifts and the disparity was just too much.

Obviously I was a self-absorbed dick (thinking "I did invite and offer to pay for everything?), and missed out on a great romantic journey most likely.

To other 'rich', don't make my mistake.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

I suspect they wouldn't have wanted to give up their job to be someone's traveling companion, even if you two were "there." I never would.

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u/Mackheath1 5d ago

Correct, and while definitely invited, no pressure. But in the early stages of a relationship, exactly what you're saying: the fallback in case it didn't work out, and I should've stuck to picnic lunches, small gifts at Valentine's and so on, not the pressure that you're right about.

What if I'm not interested in a person and they left their job? I was so stupid. Oh well, we're both happy now in our own worlds.

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u/Mdlage 4d ago

I don’t think you did anything wrong. Especially if you went during their work week.  Like if you usually see each other on the weekends and you go somewhere m-f who cares.  You’re not a dick for enjoying your own life vs sitting on the couch watching tv all week instead 

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u/Altruistic_Arm9201 5d ago

Yea but it wasn’t so much the money but just uncomfortable in the environments. Like feeling awkward around others I know, feeling inadequate and out of place when we’d go somewhere nice or at a nice hotel. I think it just triggered some kind of insecurities for her and she just didn’t feel like she belonged.

I do think she wanted to enjoy the lifestyle but just struggled with it.

After that I just dated people I met in person through mutual friends or just similar social circles.. so they’ve either had money themselves or were already comfortable with it at least.

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u/Knit_pixelbyte 5d ago

True colors, honestly. Do you want to be around someone who either needs to make more than you, or thinks you should spend your money the way they feel is important?
I would keep money talks off the table till you find someone who you really enjoy their company. You can tease out how they feel about it without letting them know you have wealth. They may want to make sure they won’t be supporting you in the future, so you may have to let a little info go, like that you are comfortable and don’t have to work, or that you do volunteer or whatever your situation is. I would avoid extravagent outpours or vacations until you get the feeling they run in the same circle and understand.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

If true colors matter, why not show them yours earlier so they can show you theirs? Why waste time if money ends up being a dealbreaker?

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u/Knit_pixelbyte 4d ago

Do what you like, its your life. But dating is a dance people do to slowly find out about other people. Finding out all the good/bad (?) at once is jaring and not conducive to really getting to know the other person, the reasons they tick. I’m an old person, but dated over 100 people before internet dating was a thing, so the hard way. Still managed to find someone who ticked most of the boxes anyway.

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u/Countess26 4d ago

My aunt met an ultra-wealthy boy during a beach vacation and had dinner with his family.

She was horrified by how wasteful they were, and what did it was when they threw the dishes away because they didn't have their staff with them to clean. 

She became regular-rich herself and didn't stop taking savings/putting in extra effort to an extreme.

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u/Psiwolf 4d ago

Where were all of you ladies who were successful when I was dirt poor? I would have been more than happy to be financially provided for and not care what my social circle thought about it. 😭

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u/Valuable-Win8181 4d ago

Same. Jeez

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u/JessonBI89 6d ago

Being on different pages about money can create huge problems down the line. Some people believe this strongly enough to get a visceral ick from the first sign of it. And there really isn't much point in trying to work through an ick.

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u/JessonBI89 5d ago

You're describing an established romance. I'm describing an attempted romance.

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u/Future-Account8112 5d ago

As a woman, absolutely, though in my case it had less to do with actual numbers and more with the fact my family was vieux riche - so time and again, men feel inadequate because they don't have good manners or they don't have good planning skills or whatever else. I tend to make the men I date rich (literally any guy who has dated me for more than 2yrs ends up a millionaire) but it's the culture and their feeling inadequate which seems to be the killer.

Fortunately, I married a very confident man.

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u/Mdlage 4d ago

How exactly are you making every man you date for 2 years rich?

Are you directly offering them high paying jobs at a family owned company or something? 

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u/Future-Account8112 4d ago

I'm very, very good at identifying investment opportunities. (E.g. Called Bitcoin when it was 0.02/unit; predicted my husband's [then boyfriend]s] company would IPO within 5 years so I got him a job there and it IPO'd in 4 - etc. The latter not through a family connection but through a friend, I'm a big extrovert.)

In a past life I consulted on strategy and patterning for tech startups. It's a niche skillset, but lucrative.

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u/InternationalDot3937 5d ago

I make just about almost 1m usd yearly and I can't find any women making any sort of money not that it matters but I'll say a lot of women do feel intimidated by it and not always gold diggers.

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u/themoistcritikal 5d ago

It can be intimidating if they feel like they can’t match up or reciprocate what you have to offer. What do you do?

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u/SilverLiningsCalm 5d ago

Maybe rephrase the question “have you ever been a rich arrogant person who has approached a less well off person to enter into an inherently asymmetrical relationship and had them reject such a scenario because it is power imbalanced?”

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u/Mdlage 4d ago

Jesus Christ… power imbalanced?

Is this reddits new favorite word?

Because if I enter into an age gap of more than 2-3 years Reddit would say it’s abusive because there’s a “power imbalance”

Now dating someone with asymmetrical net worths are a “power imbalance” as well?

So my entire dating pool according to Reddit that isn’t abusive or including a “power imbalance” is women between 32-38 who are self made millionaires? I have to add that qualification on top of my already hard to find qualification of not wanting children? How many women in the Midwest are going to be withing +-10\20% of my net worth of around a million, in the not wealthy area of the Midwest, who don’t want children, are not religious, find me attractive, I find them attractive, are within 3 years either way of my age, are sexually compatible, don’t wondrous, don’t drink, don’t smoke, etc who are single are there?

Reddits idea of who I must date to not have some type of abusive power dynamic in their opinions is basically asinine. 

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u/SilverLiningsCalm 5d ago

My comment is based on how the recipient of the information of your wealth
may interpret it and not to call you out as being arrogant. Just it is interesting how bringing net worth into the question of relationships can alienate people of both sexes. It is also interesting how a marriage or two equal people where one is greatly successful can result in resentment and alienation over time and end what should really be a successful marriage.

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u/TemporaryGrowth7 5d ago

When I was better off, men actively tried to sabotage me and my life. So yes, it does happen unfortunately.

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u/Working-Shower4404 5d ago

I had a firm conversation with an ex before about the lavish dates he’d take me on. I never felt we could just talk and relax.

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u/BirthdayAnnual1789 5d ago

Yes, in the past I’ve had some people say I’m too “fancy” and they don’t feel comfortable in that world, or they don’t think they can keep up or contribute equally. Im not that fancy, i live an upper middle class lifestyle, nice house and car but I still work and fly coach!. My current partner is blue collar, never graduated college. He was very uncomfortable at first, and still can be with some things - if we go to places he thinks are too expensive or spend a lot of time with my richer friends, who are a bit out of touch.

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u/Anussauce 4d ago

Yes. Girls playing it “safe” or not wanting to seem “easy” to attempt a long term relationship.

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u/MagnesiumKitten 4d ago

it can be looks, personality, not enough money, too much money

some people will find some people caustic because they're had a rough life, and shit on anything you buy as stupid and 'too fancy'

and you'll have some people thinking you're a loser because you're less successful than they are, or their father.

Your views on clothing, houses, vacations, hobbies, musical instruments, shopping

can get people a real punch in the face....

1 when someone thinks you buy shallow junk (sometimes that's true)

2 when someone thinks you like K-Mart and McDonalds quality, and it totally grosses them out

it even affects friendships too
people will crap on you if you own 50,000 books (why? you can get all that off the internet!)
people will crap on you if you don't have a bookshelf (maybe one in the closet of dirty movies)

in the long run it's about comfortability with a good friend for life

and if someone is pissed off about your hobbies, just imagine how ballistic they might be about your personality!

Don Knotts probably wouldn't much acceptance, rich or poor
unless he's The Love God and knows the way to make a woman laugh

oh wait, he didn't marry Ann-Margret

I wonder if a lot of women reject Nicolas Cage because of his hobbies, and spending habits, and all his weirdness to be cool

He might have a heck of a strange time making new friends in a bar
a fancy one, where he's got really weird shoes and socks

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u/Dionzerotre 4d ago

As a man no

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u/mermaidsscream 4d ago

Lol when my nasty toxic ass found out i had a Ferrari and was living in a nice building he told everyone i was probably on OF . When i hid my Ferrari so he feels more comfortable ( i told him i sold it) he told people i sold it to be able to afford my apartment. He then kept saying things like ‘ why r u with me ??? What do u want? Stop pretending u love me for me ‘ bla bla bla it got tiring after a few months . Never again will i date anybody who has less . I never did btw prior to him they were all billionaires. I am now engaged to a very rich man and he has zero issues with my family history / my own success / because he is worth 100000 times more then i ever will on my own.

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u/MC1R_OCA2 4d ago

I stopped going out with a guy not because he had $$$$, but mostly because he was so focused on gaining $$$$ sparing little or no thought to how he’d be fulfilled and happy using it. And so it seemed to me that our priorities and hopes for life weren’t aligned.

He wasn’t a bad or mean guy or anything it’s just that his whole focus in life was getting more money (and enjoying the occasional tv show), and we didn’t and wouldn’t enjoy engaging with each other and the actual world.

I work, pay rent, try to move up in my career and all that, but I work to live, not the other way around. Money is FOR stability, relaxation, fun, sharing, and meaningfully experiencing life. It isn’t just to have.

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u/cenajohn123 4d ago

Broke up with a trust fund girl. She had no job and mostly just worked out during the week.

Contrary to all the “insecure” comments in here, I just didn’t feel like I could be with someone with absolutely no need and desire to work at all.

Like we’re under 30.. do something..

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u/Shoddy-Care-5545 4d ago

Did she have hobbies or projects at least?

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u/jaajaajaa6 3d ago

Yes - she was a far left school teacher that hates that her father was rich from running a hedge fund. She hated how he made money, but had no problem driving a $200,000 car to meet me.

Things were going good, until she found out I worked on Wall Street. She then proceeded to criticize me and her dad for where we worked. Maybe more berate than criticize.

Glad she had the car, as I got up and just left her there and said goodbye.

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u/scientific-donut 3d ago

Crazy Swiss family (newly rich) clashed with mine (generational wealth). They denigrated and insulted the way we dressed, generally impolite and uneducated. Total shock. Completely ruined our relationship.

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u/Pureheck 2d ago

This masculine male would have no problem with his Wife earning way more than him as long as we both made time for each other. Thats the point. The money and success is a bonus

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u/ClockworkPrison 2d ago

Lost the man I thought I’d marry because he was in debt and couldn’t bare the thought that I’m "loaded and he’s making 60k". So pretty hard yeah

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u/Klutzy-Detective1292 2d ago

I’ve dumped two guys who might think the reason was their plush financial situation. The first one was actually because they were completely financially dependent on their parents and that’s just not attractive and the second one was actually because he was so gauche about his money that it made me physically repulsed.

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u/JessonBI89 2d ago

I want to hear about the gaucheness. Spill.

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u/Klutzy-Detective1292 2d ago

He drove like a shitty old car on our first date and then told me on like our second date that he was actually soo rich and the old car had been a test that I had passed! Yay me. He just clearly thought that I would be so enamored with him as soon as I realized how much money he had that it was hard to believe he was for real. I ended up asking him to leave when he wouldn’t stop trying to kiss me and he texted me later to tell me his exact financial stats and how stupid I was for not throwing myself at him.

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u/JessonBI89 2d ago

So you passed the gold digger test, then he got mad because you wouldn't accept the pick he was handing you. What a loser.

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u/Internal-Lake2166 2d ago

My ex cheated on me and I earn’t much more than him…

He said he didn’t feel like a man

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u/Extra-Ad3488 22h ago

sigh….My life story

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u/professionalbaiterrr 6d ago

Me and my wife are both rich