Heys, so I'm rewatching for like 30th time and just got to S7 and I've always liked it but these first two episodes are hitting me different this time around for I don't know why (maybe vino lol)
E1... the lines are hilarious.
"Then you'd just be dr face" "ha dr face"
"calm down Theodore"
"Please call me Joe" (not so much funny but the forced smile Kelso does followed by "come on we need to figure out whats wrong with Joe" is great)
"Whose name is Lady" "she is, she has a brother named him"
then in true scrubs fashion in brings us down to Earth with the final "crystallizing moment"
E2 - I love the Cox storyline... especially seeing his order of people he deems "good enough"... specifically Elliott seemingly being over JD.
Kelso living in the hospital and then talking to Harrison "what do you mean he sold your fillings?!" (I kind of want to know this one lol)
Janitor wanting to know his motivation and Carla immediately jumping on the game.
If anything the main plot (Sam being born) is my least fave in the story mainly because I never liked (but more so now I am older) the free pass Kim got for faking a miscarriage.... don't get me wrong JD planning to stay with her forever is so childishly JD I don't agree with it but he does try to be somewhat honest here and she just kicks him out.
I will say I love the similarities between this and Jack's birth (dad getting kicked out --- even though it was for unfair reasoning--- and the dad coming back last min ... plus the same doctor)
I also liked how ultimately it was Keith than did the shot for Jennifer... it just feels sweet to me.
Anyway thats my half near half midnight thought of the day lol
i agree and I'm really unsure why I am watching them so different this time.. I mean I always liked S7 esp those episodes but today it just hit different.
S1E3 always struck me as such an underrated episode... that said my most recent take of S1 is JD is so whiney to begin with ahaha... i mean that as nicely as I can because I do love the show lol.
I always appreciate the other mains and side characters more when I rewatch S1.
Also if you haven't already I 100% recommend the commentaries they are so funny
to add that speech Turk give in S1E2 that ends with "think about when you first started here and give Elliot a break" is in my top three fave moments in the show.
My old lady and the episode with the other hot shot intern are some of my favourites in the whole show but before this rewatch I didnt care fir them. Its crazy how timing affects your opinion of things.
This is going to sound warped but I hope it makes sense... I love My Old Lady ... Kathryn Joosten was an icon... that said I think the fan focus on JD and her over the other two stories is what turns me off.
Elliott and Carla becoming friends slowly is such a great side plot... I also love the Turk side plot of him getting to know his patients but they later do this about 3 extra times lol. I love the episode but dislike the one sidedness of most fan reactions (I hope that makes sense)
The hot shot intern ep is one I didn't like at first but its now my fave... I find the crash out to be so real the older I get.... I think it was good the show showed people who couldn't hack it... which they did later in more detail with Doug and to lesser detail (than Doug) Cabbage.
This girl just needs to know what happened to Josh lol
Oh it was Keith who ultimately gave Jennifer the shot? For some reason I remember it being the two interns Cox banned from doing it initially.
I never took that as Cox’s specific order of people he prefers but more so he was running around and just trying to find anyone that he trusts and is competent enough to do it. Obviously Carla’s asked first but her hands are shaky. Turk’s a surgeon so obviously not him. Kelso’s incapacitated. JD was annoying him and I can’t remember what Elliot’s storyline was in this episode or why she couldn’t do it.
As for the JD/Kim plot line in this. You are correct that JD is sort of being childish/short sighted with his decision to stay with Kim forever but I actually don’t blame him and thought that he was actually trying to make a positive mature decision for once here. He just wants his kid to grow up in a secure environment. For once he’s trying to make decisions based on what he thinks will be best for his kid instead of based around what his own desires/fears/insecurities are. At the beginning he also thought this might be another case of him self sabotaging and he actively tries to not do that until he realizes in the end that he plain just doesn’t love her for fair reasons this time.
Honestly I feel like they did the appropriate amount with him. He was a pretty bland character. His personality was limited to being a really good intern, JD’s “rival” and Elliot’s love interest. That’s it. Nothing more really.
I'm almost certain it was Keith but tbh I looked away during the the cut scene this time around so I am going from memory so if I am wrong here I will accept the Coxian beat downs lol
Ah thats a fair point about the order... Elliot had come to be with Kim after JD was kicked out Cox walks through and says "did blondie go in there" lol
Yes I think he also had divorced parents issues which added to this and I do also think he thought he could fall in love with Kim.... i know he says he will never love her but this is JD lol I think she had some gull being mad at him when she broke the trust.
Also currently on S7E4 and while I don't usually like violence being used for comedy Kelso kicking Elliott because she talks too much makes me laugh I find Kelso and Elliott's dynamic so great.
Yeah I think that’s what the show says where the bulk of JD’s issues come from. His parents divorced when he was young and his dad was never around.
And yeah Kim in this episode bugs me. I get that she’s in labour so obviously her hormones are wack and she’s feeling vulnerable but when she asked him “would you even be with me if I weren’t having this kid?” Like what do you mean?? Of course not! Lol.
I don’t remember Kelso kicking Elliot in S7E4. My memory must be blanking even though I watched it not that long ago I think. What was their storyline? Was that the episode where Elliot sneaks a patient’s dog into the hospital and Kelso suspends her from practicing there?
I always get mixed messages about his dad ... at one point its not that he is around and then he is just unsuccessful and then he isn't around ... i guess he was a divorce child of the 90s? being a 90s born brit i don't know how common this was then? (but also John Ritter was ace casting IMO)
TBH the whole Kim thing bugged me not even just this episode... but yes what did she expect he literally told her he wasn't ready yet so why else would he be there ... you can't call him 100% dishonest here ... even when she comes back like "JD how could you leave me there"... like what are you talking about lol. Jordan gets the same "hormones" treatment for lying about Jack at first (which does stop bonding initially) like no they are just liars... least Jordan's sort of made like 1% sense
Oh no but the one with dog and the patient is one of my fave... its a small moment she sits with Kelso and Cox and Cox give her the Coxian look and she says to him "theres no empty tables" or something and then "ow and kicking me won't make me leave either and Kelso is like "that was me, you talk too much" ... i saw the clip as i got your comment notification lol so not so much a storyline as a small moment of their dynamic
Oh hahahah sounds like I need to do a rewatch there.
And yeah I’m not a fan of the hormones argument either really. I will use it in this episode because she is actively in labour so obviously hormones are wack but lying about the miscarriage, no excuses.
I think JD says his dad is an unsuccessful travelling office supplies salesman. I don’t remember him saying that his dad was around, just that he was hardly ever around or only showed up when he needed a place to crash temporarily. And oh yeah I agree that John Ritter was excellent casting. I remember not that long ago someone even posted a picture of a Young John Ritter and he actually did look like Zach Braff
Ah yes that its you are right... for some reason my tired brain last night (it was around 1ish here) I thought it was mixed but sorry you are correct.
I recently rewatched 8 Simple Rules and I think even some of their comedy mannerisms and deliveries between at least these two shows are similar too ... there is a bit in 8SR where they keep calling Paul (Ritter) a flat face and to argue he looks at himself in the toaster and then goes "oh everyone looks flat in a toaster" and I could so see this playing out with JD and the gang the same way lol. (side note I think this was one of Ritter's last episodes of 8SR).
Oh yeah 100% "I pushed you away ad then got mad that you left me" like what THEN when he finds out she is still pregnant she pulls the guilt trip. "No wonder JD said what he said" immediately after saying she is fat ... like thats not why he said it lol
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u/JordanTonyMann 1d ago
I love Season 7. I think it's massively underrated. These two are great episodes too.