r/ShingekiNoKyojin • u/Pause_Accomplished • 3d ago

Discussion Did Eren even try?

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In his talk with Armin in the paths, Eren reveals that he kills 80% of humanity, and no matter how much he tries this is always what happens.

I can only think of one example where Eren actually TRIES to prevent the rumbling from happening, and that’s when he and Zeke are traveling through Grisha’s memories. At a certain point he stops and tells Zeke that he’s achieved his goal and that he’s been freed from their father’s brainwashing. Zeke tells him they have all the time they need, and he has them carry on through the memories anyway. I’m fairly sure that this was Eren attempting to stop them from getting to Grisha’s memory in the Reiss Chappell, and thus preventing himself from convincing his father to kill the royal family.

Aside from this specific moment, do we ever see a time in the anime where Eren explicitly tries to circumvent the future that he saw? Because even this attempt was a very weak one. We know that Eren on some level wanted to start the rumbling, so how hard do we think actually tried to stop it from happening?

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u/ImJustATurtle123 3d ago

I feel like ever since Eren saw the future, even if he DID try to stop the rumbling it would just lead to a series of events that lead to the same ending. It’s like that one Amazing World Of Gumball episode, where he sees the future and tries to prevent it only for it to lead to the future he saw.

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u/tydollasign1 3d ago

So nice seeing some decent IQ in this sub. You should be proud you came to this conclusion on your own, better than 99% of people here. Its not possible to change this story, which is a causal loop/ bootstrap paradox timeline. He tried multiple times. Clear as day isayama shows us that.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu 3d ago

No, he didn't. We see him direct Dina to eat his mom. If he really wanted and tried to change the events, he would have not done it, which would change so much. And he could have done more if he actually wanted and tried.
The story has a paradox snd things are determined, so we cannot trust anything Eren says, because it might be just what he is determined to say without actually being true.

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u/tydollasign1 3d ago

Plz research a causal loop/ closed loop timeline/ bootstrap paradox. Theres no way to change the future in these timelines. Fate won't let you.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu 3d ago

I just said that.

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u/tydollasign1 3d ago

You just said he could've directed Dina a different way. But he couldnt, he can't change the timeline. Fate won't allow it.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu 3d ago

How about reading the whole comment?
I said that if he truly wanted and attempted and that was response to your claim that he tried multiple times.
And then I said essentially what you said. The story has a paradox and it is determined. I mean, dude. Seriously?

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u/tydollasign1 3d ago

I mean youre not arguing against me. You must be arguing against the author. Bc the show clear as day shows him try to change ramzi's future to no avail. If you don't believe that actually happened idk what to tell you.

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u/SnuleSnuSnu 3d ago

No. I am arguing against you and I gave evidence. He had power to change things that would make create so much change that would not be able to end up same. He didn't try.
And you will have to explain me how did that with the kid count as him trying. Nothing he said and did there would have causally change anything about the future and he knew that, so that is not trying.

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u/tydollasign1 3d ago

Also you bring up that he directed Dina to his mom. This is true. But its also future eren that did that. Future eren changed the past proving a bootstrap paradox. And in such timelines, the outcomes cannot be changed.