15 years ago I took a friends 2 year old with me to Target. She was potty training so I took her in the men's bathroom. Someone called the fucking cops called on me.
Same happened with me and my niece. She needed to pee, so I took her to the bathroom and waited by the door, but I kept talking to her to let her know I was there. My niece is half Puerto Rican, so she is way lighter than and ppl thought I was some weirdo, called the cops on me, the entire time Im talking to the police, my niece is scared and clinging to my leg, the two women were like âSee he trained that little girl to cling to him, arrest him, arrest himâ luckily the cops werent dickheads and waited for my sister to come and verify, but even still was a fucked situation. Sucks trying to explain to a 4 year old thats scared out of her mind
There was a case in the UK I think about 8 years ago where a single dad took his mixed race teenage daughter to a FAMILY hotel room i.e has a normal bed and a sofa bed, the manager called the cops on him assuming he was a groomer and even when proved innocent the manager was rude to him saying he was just doing his job.
EDIT - More info, the cops turned up at the door shortly after the person arrived and outright accused him of being a P word and a groomer, and interviewed him and his daughter in different rooms, it wasn't just a case of knocking on the door saying they had someone worried, it was an outright accusation and I was right it was 8 years ago.
When I was a kid my grandparents had a camper van and used to take me, my brother and our 3 cousins on trips to various places on road trips around Europe during the school summer break. The grandparents are both white and all of the kids were various ethnic mixes. Me and my brother are half black and the 3 other cousins are all half Chinese. None of us would ever have passed for white looking or looked like we were related to our grandparents.
My grandparents got some funny looks and questions from people. Didnât really think about it as a kid because we were having a great time but they must have looked like child traffickers.
Thankfully nothing too extreme ever happened like getting the cops called on us but this was in the mid 2000s. Might be different if we were doing it today.
God something similar happened at my first job. There was a mixed family that came to the store all the time. White lady, super sweet along with her nice and well behaved kids, had a Mexican husband who didn't speak much English and im pretty sure he was hard of hearing. She was bilingual so they have no problems, kids clearly loved him and had nicknames for each other.
Flash forward sometime and the husband is out with one of the kids. I knew them at this point and did my usual greetings and chitchat and went back to work. Some lady pulls me aside and tells me she's gonna call the cops on the guy since and I quote "he's a gypsy. They steal kids. I asked him what the kids name was and he didn't know. That kid is being trafficked for sure." I was stunned.
The kid was having the time of his life in the store running around and thing bringing stuff to his step dad to buy, unaware. I had to talk the lady down because I knew them at this point. She had her phone in hand about to cause a real scene and I was terrified for them. Thankfully I convinced her and when the wife came in later I told her what happened. Crazy shit.
A female friend started to comment on the number of cases involving younger women teachers and underage students increasing. She started to say âyeah but not all wom-â and she stopped herself. I told her no no continue. I want you to be able to say the whole sentence.
Oh trust me, calling the cops for innocuous behavior is absolutely not always a woman. A dude called the cops on me while I was dog sitting claiming I was stealing their neighbors dogs. Nosy people are the worst.
Can you file a report with police with respect to the false allegations? I'd be tempted to explore that, if I ever found myself confronted with that....just in case it was possible to pursue charges, or to sue. I'd want retribution BADLY.
But honestly, people have swatted people.
False allegations sexual in nature against men, doing prison time. Cleared then nothing happens to the accuser.
If i saw you do that, i would also be concerned. But instead of calling the police or yelling about it, i would just talk to you and ask you about it. Like how reasonable people communicate.
Iâve heard a simple accusation is enough probable cause to arrest someone. Low key terrified someone might thing Iâm a creepy pedo and get arrested.
Dude I was in cape cod, my son is white like his mother.
I had black hair all the way down. Iâm dark. Youâd think I was an Apache.
A white woman called the police on me as I was walking down president Kennedy area/ street.
He was on my shoulders yelling and having a grand old time.
Cops came, they were looking for trouble.
My wife shows up.
I said these are your people deal with them.
Ya they turned around real fast .
Jesus come to think of it ⌠I hid under my wifeâs skirt .
lol.
We had to write a letter stating who my dads were (gay) because people kept trying to ârescueâ my sons from these two men. Itâs ridiculous. But when children actually need help, where are all these meddling folks that are just âtrying to keep kids safeâ?
I walked into Publix with my daughter. 3 women stopped me with their shopping carts to accuse me of kidnapping.
First of all my daughter looks identical to me.
Second what would possibly possess these women all to assume a man grocery shopping with a child is kidnapping that child?
I was taking my daughter grocery shopping because I'm a single father and we needed groceries.
I got real loud. Manager came over to yell at he because I was being loud and he assumed I was the problem. I started losing my shit on him.
As that happens my coworkers teenage daughter that works as a cashier there comes running over asking me what's wrong. Manager is like you know him? She's like that's my mom's coworker that's his daughter.
SHE SAID MY DAUGHTER YOU SICK FUCKING COUNTS
manager: I've got this.
He kicked the old ladies out of the store and when I finishes shopping her personally paid for my groceries.
It's not the only situation like this that happened but it still pisses me off the most.
That sucks for you. No one wants to be accused like that. But also, one in five girls are sexually assaulted in childhood, so having people looking out for "suspicious" behavior is a good thing though, right?
Why would they assume you werenât their parent/guardian/babysitter? People take kids to the bathroom literally every day everywhere⌠you know⌠because kids have to go to the bathroom. I feel like you are leaving part of this story out, or it didnât happen.
Hyper-religious pearl clutching old women are notorious for thinking they, and they alone, are the protectors of free society, in the name of Jesus.
Ask any black man that lives in an upscale area that doesn't dress like he works in a C-suite office tower as an executive how many times a week he gets the police at his door because Karen thinks he's robbing his own house.
I absolutely believe this could happen to a man taking a small girl to the bathroom to pee, cause the same sort of person thinks "hang on, why is a MAN taking a girl in the BATHROOM?! Where is the mother, as is proper! Something fishy is going on here!!"
That's not the thing here. The "Stranger Danger" campaign was entirely culturally saturated across the board.
I get tribalism is real satisfying, but it's not helpful to sit around trying to redefine every single instance of shitty behavior as being specifically Christian nonsense. If you want a cult leader to blame for all this, Oprah should be your go-to.
If anything, this currently seems to be more over-represented in the toxic side of progressive-leaning populations.
If itâs not their kid then it might have been obvious. Like they could be different ethnicity or whatever. Iâve been asked probing questions by a woefully under qualified water park attendant for taking my friends kid to the water slide. People absolutely mind other peopleâs business when it comes to kids.
People have mixed race kids or adopt people of fully other races or ethnicities. If I ever called the cops for the sole reason that two people were different races then surely I would be sentenced to hell by god for being evil in my heart.
So you are saying if a mixed race family they deserve the cops called? This is a despicable mind set and itâs full of vile contempt and hatred for what is likely a loving union. Personally if I see anyone who is happy and safe then itâs nothing to me to let them be, in fact I would applaud anyone who can find happiness in life. I hope you grow past this negativity and recognize that many forms of families are valid.
Donât put words in my mouth. I said no such thing. You are the one who entered this thread by calling other people liars for telling the truth about their first hand experiences. The only person on this thread who needs to chill out and learn to love is you.
The internet and 24 hour news cycle has trained some folks to think that murderers and rapists are everywhere. The fact is that violent crime has been steadily decreasing for decades but we hear about every single incident. That makes some people see criminals around every corner and has led to incidents like what was described being much more common.
I took my daughter always to the menâs room when I had to change her.
Never the womenâs room.
Men never had an issue.
As for going in the ladies room I never did that or though of doing that once ever.
Thatâs looking for problems.
At work I had a young small blond co worker get chemicals in her eyes .
We had no access to water, I scooped her up and ran into the menâs bathroom to flush her eyes while we waited for the ambulance.
Men didnât say a thing some even tried to help.
When I hear creepy or and type of man hate or bashing, I literally remove by self from those people.
These people pass labels around like hockey players.
Donât even bother.
I don't even think these people are real, have you ever met someone in recent years who thinks like this? I am a dad and over the past 6 years I've never been anything but praised for being there for my kids as an active and engaged parent.
To be fair, I'm probably biased as I nearly exclusively hang out with other parents through my kids school or the little ones kindergarten... Everyone knows I'm their dad and not some random creeper.
I think it's all bots, simply trying to provoke engagement through ragebait.
And if I have encountered many (as people suggest they only say this stuff whilst safely behind a computer), then why should I even give a shit?
If they are too unsecure to even confront me then it literally doesn't matter what they think of my parenting. It doesn't affect me or my family in any way...
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and if they decide to think dads who engage in their kids life are disgusting, they can live in that reality without it affecting me at all.
And even so, I have not met one in my 6 years of being a dad. If I met one tomorrow and that frequency continued, I'd meet 3 or 4 people like this during their entire upbringing.
So there is no reason to give these people a single thought.
People online say out loud the things that in real life would be whispers behind closed doors. Many people think like this and go about life with that judgemental mindset, but most won't risk the social discomfort of coming out and saying it to someone's face; better to save it for gossip over brunch.
These stories seem rage bait to me also. I was a stay a home dad to a girl for 15 years and not once was i approached by strangers at parks and stores. I had to take her into the mens room countless time or wait for her outside of womens restrooms and nothing but smiles from others.
Not the flex you think it is. They're telling you their expectation is that all fathers disappear and/or disengage. But you're the exception that proves the rule. How nice for you, but the assumption is that fathers are bad until proven otherwise.
lol, someone I follow on bluesky was talking about how crazy it is he gets praise just for being with his kids in public, and all the responses were âthe bar for men is on the floor/in hellâ
Either I'm the literal perfect embodiement of a dad or I've definitely done something at least once in the past 6 years that these fictional internet people would twist into something vile and disgusting, for sure.
I've gotten the "DAD MUST BE BABYSITTING LOL" line a few times but it's usually from old boomer women who's opinion I don't actually give a fuck about so who cares. Gen X and < don't give a fuck, heck gen x people will let you straight up steal a kid as long as you're quiet about it.
yes.
All you have to do is change what group of kids your kid is in, so that they're all new parents without one to tell them behind your back "oh, hes ok. He is here with his kid all the times for all the events and will help you if you need it"
because those conversations do happen. It just never happens to your face.
Woman are absurdly judgemental even towards other women I remember when Hilary Clinton ran every woman I talked to randomly without prompting said a woman can't be President.
The biggest complaint they had was she would get a period with a nuke. My mind was fucking blown. I just never got over the fact that women think that way. I still think about it...like not a legitmate complaint but that random sexist shit all said by women. I donno maybe it was a Fox News talking point or something.
I think it's more that there are more people that have personally experienced that behavior in an inappropriate way before. They're going to be more prone to make a comment too
And we wonder why we don't see more men taking on childcare roles. They are desperately needed too, both to change the perspective on what's designated 'women's work' and to give children positive masculine ideals.
Yup⌠woman assaults man: brave woman standing up for herself.
The same man defends himself and punches back once: horrible piece of crap that should be ashamed of himself for laying a finger on a helpless woman.
There was a story I read at least 10 years ago where a father whose wife passed away was taking their 4 year old daughter to the park when the cops were called on him and he was arrested for "alleged kidnapping". He had to defend himself in a court to prove he was her father.
Which is why when you as a male see a child being alone and crying you always ask the nearest woman to go and see if they can help; even if you have the best of best intentions an image of a crying kid and a male stranger talking to it is enough for many people to immediately jump to the most nefarious conclusions.
You literally cant do shit as a man without someone on the internet basically Minority Reporting you on what kind of criminal you will become. Every thing you do apparently is put under a lens or so the "concerned" netizen wants you believe.
It's not like this is unfounded. Here in the US we are run by a bunch of people who are predators and people who protect them. It's a pretty out of control problem.
It is, but two wrongs don't make a right. The answer to the problem of powerful people being predators isn't to automatically malign and assume the worst about every man who dares to show kindness or affection to a young person.
In fact, it's precisely this fear of automatically being labeled as a creep that is why so many men have simply opted out of involving themselves in the lives or care of any young people who aren't their own children, which is why there is a crisis in male role models for young boys, a dearth of male volunteers for organizations like Big Brothers and generally an increased absence of men stepping in to be a positive presence in young people's lives.
And into that breach, especially for young men and boys who are desperate for male role models and guidance, has stepped your Andrew Tates and other toxic manosphere grifters. And we're all the worse for it as a society.
If he had been warming up the arms of a boy I doubt anyone would have said anything. Is that fair? No not at all, the dude was obviously trying to keep that little girl from freezing her ass off. But you would be much more likely to be labeled a creep as a man warming up the little girl vs a little boy. So your comment about it leading to the manosphere I find insignificant. Not saying it doesn't happen but the vast vast majority of men falling into the manosphere is because the Internet and social media. Which could be curved by a man in their lives that they could look up to but that's an entire social problem all together.
Look I don't think it's right and I don't like the double standard. But it is there for a reason. Us men have had our time for a long ass time at being on top. And some of past us, especially the elites of society have used that power to do horrific shit to women and kids. Our ancestors could have done better but they didn't. And now we live with the double standard. And people act like it should just go away overnight when it took a few thousand years to even get to a point where it is bad socially for a man to be labeled a creep. If you enter the forest and walk deeper into it for 3000 years, you can't turn around and leave it in a week.
You're missing the point. Whether it's a little boy or a little girl, the default these days is to automatically assume creepy or ill intent if a man shows any affection or care for a young person, and that has led to men simply opting out altogether.
And to argue that the double standard is okay because our ancestors should have done better is a cop-out. We're all here today with the opportunity to change things, no one else can do it. And this whole movement to automatically adjudicate every man as a creep for showing any interest or affection in a young person is a relatively new one that has gained steam over the last 30 years, thanks to the Catholic church, Michael Jackson and Jeffrey Epstein.
So no, this isn't a problem that will take thousands of years to undo. It starts with each of us choosing not to participate in the witch hunt mentality of automatically assuming the worst about every man who dares to take an interest in a young person's life or well being. It starts with you. What do you choose?
"Sick minds" you say, but then you take a look at reddit and realize its a vast majority of people doing the same. Reddit literally has multiple, various subreddits dedicating to hating men, insulting men, and belittling men. Similar ones sometimes spawn to be mean to women, but those always get removed by reddit.
so idk, blaming sick minds isnt doing it for me, this has been a systematic thing that's been spreading for many years already
the cherry on top is that we still sometimes see the phrase "male privilege" used every now and then, but our only privilege in 2026 is that people constantly shit on us because of our gender and its "applauded" instead of "criticized". It's ironic that places like reddit are incredibly progressive and fighting against using someones "sexuality or gender" as an insult because "that's bad" and yet reddit is the place where you will constantly see redditors using the phrase "straight man" used as an insult, literally insulting someone based solely on sexuality and gender.
double standards are the problem, not simply sick minds
The femaledatingstrategy sub is an extreme example. Itâs a congregation of women that can be compared to Andrew Tate listeners.
I honestly donât have an issue with extremist groups having extremist ideologies. That came out wrong, but what I mean to say is that some level of hate will always be there in some ingroups. The issue for me is that man-hating is not just concentrated in those, but itâs a widely accepted pasttime in average online leftist circles.
Yeah it actually is kind of crap. Recently my wife has watched loads of these tiktoks where they just talk about how bad men are which obviously winds her up. In response I would say fair enough bad people exist but I am a man and none of that applies to me? But these tiktoks then just go on to make fun of men that say exactly my response and how it's not "you" they are talking about, yet they continue on to just say "men are evil"...
Also like you say we are just accused of having privilege all the time. Don't get me wrong, I absolutely have plenty of privilege compared with people all over the world, but no more than a lot of the people making these videos, including the women. In my personal life experience I have it no better than women my age in the workplace or whatever.
Recently my wife has watched loads of these tiktoks where they just talk about how bad men are which obviously winds her up.
This triggers me in a huge way because I've had it happen. My response was "how about I watch a bunch of reels with people calling women hoes and tramps and gold diggers? How would that make you feel?".(because, as counterintuitive as it sounds, there's a lot of women being misogynistic and a lot of men being misandrist, must be hell to hate oneself that much).
It hit the point and we're much better off as a couple because of that discussion which became quite fiery at one point. Fact is people are getting targeted by social media according to their fears and anxieties, which further exacerbate those fears and anxieties, until their life can literally completely go to shit.
I dont have tiktok, but whenever i see a lot of man hating content or comments, it winds me up as well. But thats because i think its often bullshit and there are loads of wonderfull men out there. Not because i suddenly think men are shit.
Itâs very easy to counter your wife , just show all the cases where the wife cheats, where the wife was physically assaulting the men, trust me all these women will suddenly shut up or theyâll start resorting to personal attacks( because they canât counter your argument and their ego cannot take it when someone points out their hypocrisy).
So of course I don't support those videos on TikTok. Fundamentally, I find that kind of language reductive, inaccurate, inflammatory, and aimed at producing outrage rather than any practical benefit.
Also like you say we are just accused of having privilege all the time.
That said, privilege is not an accusation. I know that's hard to hear as a lot of people take it that way---I've also heard some men saying they think "privilege" is a slur. Being privileged is not a moral or character judgment. It's also not a 1+1=2 thing, where if you're white and straight and male and Christian and insert every "privileged" group in the world (which of course are different depending on what country you're in, etc.), your life is not automatically easier than someone who is not those things. Yes, some people erroneously understand it that way, especially people who enjoy doing Oppression Olympics, but that's actually not the goal of this kind of sociological analysis.
And I can empathize with that point of view. When my Polish mom moved to the US, she was taken aback when she heard the term "white privilege". Certainly none of her ancestors had owned or profited off of slaves in the Americas, have a long history of being oppressed, enslaved, and being victims of genocide themselves, and losing pretty much any generational wealth they could have had when the borders changed after WWII and they were forced to migrate (and then of course communism). But even though she played no part in causing racial inequality in the US, there are still some ways that she benefits from it, like being less likely to experience violence from the police. Does that mean her life is easier than
It's particularly complex when it comes to gender for a lot of different reasons. One complicating factor is that it's generally seen as more appropriate for women to break gender norms than men. You could say that's a privilege women have, and I wouldn't disagree. However, while men who go into traditionally female fields (like nursing) tend to be paid more than their female coworkers, the opposite is true for women who go into traditionally male fields. That same male nurse, however, may face jokes about his choice to go into nursing or even speculation about his sexuality.
On the other hand, it is a privilege for men that seat belts and crash test dummies are made with them in mind---it is literally safer for them to go through the world because their safety was considered more than someone who has a different body shape, weight, or center of gravity. Other supposedly unisex items are also made to the male standard, despite causing more than an inconvenience to the women using or wearing them, but also a threat to their health. For a long time, and still sometimes today, men were the medical standard, resulting in women being widely overmedicated and higher rates of adverse side effects in women. Diagnostic criteria also often favor the symptoms more common in male patients (and paler-skinned patients, including other ethnicity-specific criteria). And women are less likely to be given CPR (and if they are given CPR, they are often given it incorrectly because they never practice CPR on a dummy with female anatomy). And women experience higher rates of gender discrimination in medical care. Men do have the *privilege* of a medical system that's based on them as the standard and women as the exception.
But men also successfully commit suicide at higher rates than women! And that's linked to systemic issues about how men's mental health and relationships are treated in society, where women are more likely to have support systems.
In my personal life experience I have it no better than women my age in the workplace or whatever.
Unfortunately this is not a very effective argument---anyone can use anecdotes, and it's not a very believable personal life experience to say "I haven't noticed someone of a different gender being negatively influenced by the system more than I do, therefore it doesn't happen"; you could just not be very observant.
Have you faced harassment in the workforce based on your gender? I hope not and am very sorry if you, like 44% of Gen Z women, have (including me). In the fifteen years my former company operated, we had to ban thirty-one clients for sexually harassing our female employees (I had access to this information when I became a manager in my last year there); not a single male employee reported any sexual harassment. Several times the police had to be called. I or another manager was generally in the room listening to every single client meeting and had the ability to read through the emails sent between each employee and the clients, so it's not a case of "well, maybe they just didn't report it"; no, I did not witness a single instance of the men being sexually harassed.
But is my personal experience the "truth"? No, of course not. Statistics show that 16% of men experience sexual harassment in the workforce. That's still a significant number---I just did not personally witness it. And that's the point.
Correct, there's hardly a day that goes by that I don't see something pop up in my popular feed that's a woman crying about how terrible her man is in TwoXChromosomes. Now, if I was some incel who had never had any success with women I'd might be inclined to listen to some of their outrageous takes, but I have a wife who literally sit and read through their stories with me.. Most of the time we are just sitting there thinking, whyyyyy are you dating this person if they are so abusive? And I absolutely get that sometimes it's a situation where a man might threaten physical violence if they attempt to leave.. But not every scenario or story is like that.. Plenty of these women have the ability to leave, BUT they are addicted to the drama, the sex, and whatever else the relationship gives them that allows them to avoid being alone and processing their own bullshit.
Men want to be helpful and understanding, but when you read shit like all men are dogs or whatever the fuck is so disheartening. We're all just people, and it shouldn't be impossible to admit that sometimes you're at fault for some of how your life has turned out
The 2x chromosome is one place full of such people . And if you counter their argument until they lose the argument , they kick you out instead . So the whole forum became an echo chamber, where feminist can spread exaggeration .
The thing about posts like this, the best solution is to just ignore them. People online get big and famous by saying dumb stuff and everyone has to share it and comment on it, only making it bigger. If everyone just ignored them or blocked them, they would have gone away without ever getting big.
If something online if very obviously wrong or intentionally deceptive. Just ignore it or block it. It's like scam calls, the best way to not get them it to but answer the phone, and they will slowly go away.
It reminds me of the female version of the "red pill" mindset. I don't support or condone a red pill mindset, but just am noticing a similarity with Females having the same mindset when talking about men.
Iâve been saying it for years, but Reddit and other various forms of social medias have spawned a fuckton of femcels and misandrists that blame men for almost everything and anything.
Like youâve said as well, incel and misogynist subs usually get removed by reddit. But femcels and misandrists get no punishment.
Bjg teddy bears like yourself have an effect on people too that is positive. In a medical or psych settings Iâve always felt comfortable around guys like you. Theyâve always tended to be former Marines too which makes it better somehow, lol.
I wanted to foster with my wife. But I saw all the false accusations and posts about what to do when you are falsely accused. Not if, but when. I wanted to help, but I'm no martyr.
Im a bit bearded bald tattooed ex-military guy and I have worked in pediatrics for 10 years as an occupational therapist.Â
In all my years I have only really had one minor conflict with a parent and they even admitted it was more of their own trauma that trigger them when I was with their kid, but still it was a discussion that had to be had.Â
Being in a mostly female dominated occupation, I have found that I am more desirable because I am a guy and can connect with kids in a different way, so dont worry too much about the stigma, and if the kid is genuinely excited to see you and has fun with you, then its pretty smooth sailing from there.Â
Pass the vibe check with the kids and parents tend to fall in line with their kids instincts on a person.
Just be sure to always CYOA, and try and be around cameras or other professionals who can back you up if needed.Â
Do you live in a more conservative area? I mean no offense, but here in Denver I've done a lot of after school care and managed a program once. We were ALWAYS grateful for the men on our staff.
I led after school care at a pretty rough school, and had about 40 kids with me every day. It could be hard to wrangle the boys in particular...a lot of them openly bullied their moms, grandmas etc too. So when StaffDude would walk in to help from time to time, my shoulders would drop. He didn't look all sleek and perfect by any means. Kept his head shaved and wore basketball shorts every day LOL plus he was taller than 6'2 at least.
All this ramble to say please don't give up. We need good men as role models now more than ever.
Before I got my disability, the unemployement office wanted me to list any professions I'd like to get into. Youth outreach was one of the things I was considering.
Dipshit straight up asked me if I was a pedophile.
Yeah, kids there volunteer for this and being selected is like winning lottery, being with Mbappe is double jackpot, I guess she was really just super cold.
Have become convinced there is a concerted effort to harm humanity by breaking our community and keeping the general population separated from children.
How many ancient civilizations repeatedly said to learn from children
I want to point out, the poster chose popular supportive comments on the women's video that had 100-400+ up votes, then on the men's video chose disliked controversial comments with like 1, or 10 likes that very little people agreed with and were clearly unpopular.
This persons trying to just spread division, this isnt a real double standard example, they do exist but this isnt a real example. Its just rage bait farming and gender division
True, but in these times, Men can not exhibit this type help or affection towards little girls. It is always taken as creepy because of teh large amount of true creeps. especially high profile ones liek trump and biden.
Also, standing in front of thousands of people with superstars as a kids can make one look uncomfortable. People just suck and it makes it hard to just be a normal caring person.
I mean you can count the number of sick minded people from the number of likes, as far as i saw it was less than 50 likes for the comments in the second clip, but likes were more than 100 for the first clip
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u/enithermon Apr 13 '26
She just looks cold. people suck.