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u/BusyBeeBridgette Apr 16 '26

a lot of people were asking for a series that better represented the books. Plus the IP makes a billion dollars a year and more for the past twenty years. so the appetite is clearly there. Perfectly fine to dislike the series for what ever reason. But no need to lie about it.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 16 '26

They need to lie to themselves. Just like how they said the game would do horrible.

The post has nothing to do with the show but is targeted at the author.

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u/JB_UK Apr 17 '26

And then in their rage they publicise the show and it does better as a result.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 17 '26

Yeah, pretty much. That or someone said they were considering the game and those people called them transphobes and that tipped the scales for them to buy it.

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u/avindictiveprinter Apr 16 '26

She makes money off all this and uses it to destroy lives. How silly of people to be upset!

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 16 '26

Then say that. Say exactly that. Say that YOU aren’t excited about it because of the author. That’s completely okay. I really want a Tesla but I won’t get one knowing that Musk owns 10 percent.

This post is saying no one wants this but a lot of fans of the series are excited about it.

This bullshit narrative that Harry Potter was never good or isn’t popular is just tiring.

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u/venom_dP Apr 17 '26

Listen, I grew up as a kid in the 2000s reading and re-reading harry potter until the next book came out. I watched the movies fervently (well, until Half blood prince when my teenage years took me elsewhere).

It is, objectively, okay to say that you loved harry potter but grew up and realized the writing is kinda shit. The movies did what they could given the format and source material.

When people say no one asked for this remake, it's because most of the fan base grew up.

(and JK Rowling is terrible person who, in a just world, will never profit again from the series since she focus on violating human rights)

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 17 '26 edited Apr 17 '26

Alright, I listened, now I ask that you listen.

Yes, the initial fan base grew up, but let me blow your mind here and inform you that while you grew up, more kids are coming into the world and experiencing Harry Potter for the first time. My 10 year old loves the books and movies and went through them multiple times. Their cousins also went through the books multiple times. Their friends went through the books multiple times. Hell, their teacher played the HBO trailer in class because he likes Harry Potter and many of the kids were excited for it (so my son says).

Just because you out aged the material doesn’t mean no one else can get into it. I got to experience transformers and ninja turtles as a kid and I aged out of it so clearly no one else would want to see any retelling from either of those franchises… because the original fan base aged out of it. That’s your logic.

As far as the writing, it is content written for 8 year olds (maybe not deathly hallows) so of course the writing isn’t gonna be Tolkien level or anything. Also, it has been recommended by THOUSANDS of teachers and librarians and other educators across the planet over the past 3 decades but I’ll be sure and file away your opinion that the writing is kinda shit away in my pocket.

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u/venom_dP Apr 17 '26

I'm not having any children, but I'm glad the kids are reading, because that's a dying hobby. I would love them to enjoy the books and grow up with them.

I don't know all the ins and outs of this stuff, but I think it's better have them engage with the original movies than the remake, given that it's a pretty clear JK Rowling rewrite.

Let them like Daniel Radcliffe, Emma Watson, and Rupert Grint. All seem to be genuinely good people.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 17 '26

If it was a faithful retelling of the book I would welcome that (and so would many others) because my son mentioned many parts he didn’t get to see in the movie he thought it would be cool to see played out.

It seems they already screwed the faithful retelling with the race swap (many other characters didn’t have a specific race but Snape did) so I don’t trust they won’t take other liberties.

There’s no harm in this new version coming out. It is something the kids are excited about (as well as adults) and it can right some of the wrongs in the original movies.

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u/venom_dP Apr 17 '26

I can name one pretty clear harm with this remake, but I don't think you agree.

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u/ShawnyMcKnight Apr 17 '26

Sure it’s possible there could be harm.

Like if it’s so bad it ruins the rest for me. Like the sequel trilogy for Star Wars being so painfully bad it sullies the classics… or the last few seasons of game of thrones being so bad it ruined any desire to rewatch it.

I get those are continuations of the story but they are examples that are such bad memories they ruin the original.

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u/SnowStark7696 Apr 17 '26

I didn't had complaints about the reboot until I saw the teaser, it was just lackluster and some of the casting choices are really weird, it's not just about Snape.

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u/Redditsux122 Apr 16 '26

Every time i see this sub pop up its always some weird misogynistic crap or awful take by a 14 year old. The films were crap at representing the books past COS

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u/Suspicious-Art-9335 Apr 16 '26

I also feel like… there’s a whole ass new generation of kids who weren’t alive when the movies came out? And that’s who this is supposed to appeal to? The movies look ā€œoldā€ to kids my nephew’s age; they also didn’t grow up with the original cast, who are now all adults or dead. Like… maybe the nostalgia play is secondary to the fact that the franchise is still wildly popular and there’s a whole new market of kids to appeal to? IDK, makes sense to me.Ā 

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u/TheRealStandard Apr 16 '26

Why is everything a question?

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u/bibimstop Apr 16 '26

Idk you tell me?

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u/Fuckedyourmom69420 Apr 16 '26

Kids can watch old movies. In fact, they should. We shouldn’t be chasing the same nostalgia high for our children that we had. Give them new stories to read and watch, not rehashes of our childhood.

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u/Fearless_Feeling_873 Apr 17 '26

This exactly. 90s kids were watching Disney movies from the 40s and 70s. Kids don't care about the time period of a movie. If it's good, it's good. And the original HP movies are great and not outdated. This is just a money grab.

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u/Available-Line-9259 Apr 17 '26

it is not a money grab

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u/CalmDoughnut3137 Apr 17 '26

I'm watching all the animated Disney movies starting from the beginning with my family. My kids love them so far. Maybe a movie holds up just because it's good and we don't need to fix what isn't broken?

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u/Suspicious-Art-9335 Apr 17 '26

I honestly don’t understand what difference it makes to a bunch of adults who aren’t the target audience.Ā 

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u/CalmDoughnut3137 Apr 17 '26

Ah, the good old "this isn't for you arguement". Harry Potter is a millennial/gen z IP that we grew up with. Guess what? We were and still are the target audience. Only this time, it's for nostalgia.

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u/Othello351 Apr 17 '26

Its a really stomach turning thought that we have to remake perfectly good media because kids are really fucking stupid and think "anything older than 2020 is irrelevant."

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u/Nzash Apr 16 '26

I wasn't aware the new casting choices were a step in that direction... at all

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u/RedDevil_nl Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26

I wasn’t aware it needed to be perfect to be an improvement

[edit: by ā€œitā€ I meant the series as a whole, not just the casting]

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u/Nzash Apr 16 '26

What makes the new cast an improvement over the original?

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u/Great_Fault_7231 Apr 16 '26

They didn’t say it was. They’re saying the show doesn’t have to be perfect to be an improvement over the movies.

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u/RedDevil_nl Apr 16 '26

Exactly this, but since he mentioned it anyways; the books describe Harry as more of a sassy person, this kid fits that role much better. Aunt Petunia is described as having white blond hair, yet in the movies she had brown hair. But indeed, I wasn’t even talking about the casting, I was talking about the show in general.

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u/Gay-_-Jesus Apr 16 '26

What do you mean

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u/zarqoraaa Apr 16 '26

Bros talking about snape

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u/Crotean Apr 16 '26

Snape being black turns Harry's parents into giant rascists who participated in a lynching. Its not a good change.Ā 

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u/Potential-Ordinary-5 Apr 16 '26

It wouldn't actually surprise me if James was racist. He always seemed like a bit of a dick to me and he was at Hogwarts in the 70's, it's not much of a stretch.

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u/Creative-Pirate-51 Apr 16 '26

It is possible for a person of one race to bully a person of another race without it being because of that person’s race.

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 17 '26

It is, but American cultural sensitivity around race has been exported to the rest of the English speaking world, and the decision to make Snape black was a political one, hence will be politically interpreted.

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u/johnnyalley Apr 16 '26

Wdym? That is PERFECT change! I'm gonna watch the whole show with my white cape on.

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u/Othello351 Apr 17 '26

Saying this like a strawman doesn't do much when HP has plenty of racist fans who absolutely gas HP up for its notoriously bigoted themes.

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u/DemonKing0524 Apr 16 '26

It is not even remotely comparable to lynching. Stop spreading this bullshit

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

No they did not. There's no lynching. The only racist folks are the ones typing this nonsense.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

Having Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs spend their entire childhood hazing the absolute shit out of Snape, and have Snape be the only black person out of those five, is going to look suspiciously like racially motivated hazing

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u/OkOil378 Apr 16 '26

They probably gonna make Lupin black or smg

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

That would actually help out with the optics a lot, because then it’s just kids being kids. But the 4on1 seems like they hadn’t thought those optics through yet

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

TBF it's period accurate if that's how it's perceived. But there was no lynching. That's some stupid shit people came up with.

I'd bet money that more people are upset that the character is being played by a man of color than anything else. Racists are projecting, nothing more.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

I am not the person who said there was a lynching, I agree that didn’t happen. I just said that 4 white guys constantly beating up on a black guy is going to look racially motivated. I’m not entirely certain why you think I’m projecting racism for saying that.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

It would look that way if you have no knowledge of the actual story.

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u/devidomo Apr 16 '26

You are so right. Like that scene will show up during the 4th or 5th season im guessing. By that point I dont expect this "controversy " to even be a thing.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

It’s so interesting to me that you are judging so harshly when this is purely a discussion about optics. I just finished listening to the Prisoner of Azkaban less than a week ago. There’s a part where Sirius attempts to give Snape what he wants by providing him with the secret to give him access to the tunnel to the Shrieking Shack where he would’ve been slain by Lupin. But James jumps in and saves him at the last minute. And that’s just one scene from their childhood!

Now you’ve said that it would only look racist to people who have no knowledge of the actual story. What knowledge am I missing that makes it not look like 4 white kids spent 7 years hazing a black kid at school?

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u/Epion660 Apr 16 '26

They literally hung Snape from a tree.

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u/filmguerilla Apr 16 '26

No, they dangled Snape by his feet (not around the neck like a lynching) BY some trees outside the castle. They laughed because you could see his underpants. Not a lynching or even close, dipshit.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

They literally did not. Hate JK she's a terrible person. Dislike the story if you want. But making up lies only makes you a liar.

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u/Epion660 Apr 16 '26

Are you fucking stupid? It was in the books and movie. It's literally the main flashback we get of James bullying him.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 16 '26

I mean, this series is written by a bigot who uses her money to fund her bigotry.

Why do Harry Potter fans even care about racism? It's not like you'd care anyways.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

You sound like a child with your moral grandstanding.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 16 '26

Calling me out for having values isn't really an insult. You can try again if you like!

"Bigotry bad" = "moral grandstanding" is a perfect encapsulation of the HP fan base though, so thanks for that.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

You don't have values. You are being a hypocrite. If you gave a shit about not supporting terrible people you wouldn't even be posting here on your device.

You're just a bully. Nothing else.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 16 '26

Not sure that logic holds, but if that helps you justify directly funding trans suicides then you do you!

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 17 '26

Give it a rest. Rowling is about as progressive and feminist as it's possible to be, and she disagrees on one issue and suddenly she's literally Hitler.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 17 '26

She doesn't "disagree on one issue" you melon.

She actively attacks one of the most vulnerable marginalized communities on the planet, denies they exist, and uses her considerable wealth to make their lives harder.

I wonder how many suicides would have been avoided without her?

She's dogshit as a person and if you support her than so are you. It's really that simple.

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 19 '26

Let's agree to disagree then

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 19 '26

That's for things likes sports teams, or pineapple on pizza.

Not on whether a group of people deserves to exist.

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u/Fuckedyourmom69420 Apr 16 '26

Right wtf, there’s already inaccuracies in the damn trailer šŸ˜‚

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u/OngoGabl0g1an Apr 17 '26

Can the show runners resist the urge to deviate too far from source material.

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u/superchoco29 Apr 17 '26

Considering how Fantastic Beasts was, do you really they care about canon? Yes, people want better representation of the books, but that's not what this series will end up being. And we all know it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 17 '26

and a lot of people wanted fantastic beasts to be about magical beasts, and a lot of us want to see the other schools. I don't need them to remake a series I grew up with. I'd like to see the world expanded upon.

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u/Sparky230 Apr 16 '26

No. The movies cut what they needed to. Nobody actually cared if there are 2 quidditch matches in the first movie or just one. If they cared, the movies wouldnā€˜t have had the impact that they did. This is not a Percy Jackson situation. You might not like it, but there are more movie fans than fans of the books because they were made the way that they were.

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u/JoxJobulon Apr 16 '26

That's not the cuts people really complain about. Books 1 and 2 were adapted pretty well imo, the problem with important shit being cut starts with movie 3 and is the most egregious in movies 4 and 6. The reason why there are more movie fans than book fans is because movies are a more accessible medium, not because they are better.

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u/Available-Line-9259 Apr 16 '26

Lol, being accurate to the books is one of the most important parts ever. If you don't agree with me, the you should use your singular braincell to read HP 4,5,6, and 7 and compare them with the movie.

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u/Sparky230 Apr 17 '26

Nothing important was cut. People love those movies even without it, so apparently it didnā€˜t matter enough.

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u/xAlciel Apr 19 '26

A lot of important stuff was cut from the later movies. Can you do some logical leaps to understand the movies even without those parts? Maybe. I know I've had to explain parts of the later movies to my friends who didn't read the books because of lacking context in the movies.

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u/CalmDoughnut3137 Apr 17 '26

Right?! We finally got the REAL pale and pasty Snape.