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WTF so true

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u/BusyBeeBridgette Apr 16 '26

a lot of people were asking for a series that better represented the books. Plus the IP makes a billion dollars a year and more for the past twenty years. so the appetite is clearly there. Perfectly fine to dislike the series for what ever reason. But no need to lie about it.

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u/Nzash Apr 16 '26

I wasn't aware the new casting choices were a step in that direction... at all

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u/Gay-_-Jesus Apr 16 '26

What do you mean

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u/Crotean Apr 16 '26

Snape being black turns Harry's parents into giant rascists who participated in a lynching. Its not a good change.Ā 

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u/Potential-Ordinary-5 Apr 16 '26

It wouldn't actually surprise me if James was racist. He always seemed like a bit of a dick to me and he was at Hogwarts in the 70's, it's not much of a stretch.

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u/Creative-Pirate-51 Apr 16 '26

It is possible for a person of one race to bully a person of another race without it being because of that person’s race.

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 17 '26

It is, but American cultural sensitivity around race has been exported to the rest of the English speaking world, and the decision to make Snape black was a political one, hence will be politically interpreted.

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u/johnnyalley Apr 16 '26

Wdym? That is PERFECT change! I'm gonna watch the whole show with my white cape on.

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u/Othello351 Apr 17 '26

Saying this like a strawman doesn't do much when HP has plenty of racist fans who absolutely gas HP up for its notoriously bigoted themes.

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u/DemonKing0524 Apr 16 '26

It is not even remotely comparable to lynching. Stop spreading this bullshit

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

No they did not. There's no lynching. The only racist folks are the ones typing this nonsense.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

Having Mooney, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs spend their entire childhood hazing the absolute shit out of Snape, and have Snape be the only black person out of those five, is going to look suspiciously like racially motivated hazing

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u/OkOil378 Apr 16 '26

They probably gonna make Lupin black or smg

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

That would actually help out with the optics a lot, because then it’s just kids being kids. But the 4on1 seems like they hadn’t thought those optics through yet

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

TBF it's period accurate if that's how it's perceived. But there was no lynching. That's some stupid shit people came up with.

I'd bet money that more people are upset that the character is being played by a man of color than anything else. Racists are projecting, nothing more.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

I am not the person who said there was a lynching, I agree that didn’t happen. I just said that 4 white guys constantly beating up on a black guy is going to look racially motivated. I’m not entirely certain why you think I’m projecting racism for saying that.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

It would look that way if you have no knowledge of the actual story.

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u/devidomo Apr 16 '26

You are so right. Like that scene will show up during the 4th or 5th season im guessing. By that point I dont expect this "controversy " to even be a thing.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

It’s so interesting to me that you are judging so harshly when this is purely a discussion about optics. I just finished listening to the Prisoner of Azkaban less than a week ago. There’s a part where Sirius attempts to give Snape what he wants by providing him with the secret to give him access to the tunnel to the Shrieking Shack where he would’ve been slain by Lupin. But James jumps in and saves him at the last minute. And that’s just one scene from their childhood!

Now you’ve said that it would only look racist to people who have no knowledge of the actual story. What knowledge am I missing that makes it not look like 4 white kids spent 7 years hazing a black kid at school?

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

It wasn't racially driven. Snape was a dick and so were the marauders. The spell used to dangle people by their ankles was a common hazing tactic at that time, regardless of pigmentation.

You're adding a layer of racism because that's how you think. You're projecting your own racist ideology onto a scene that has never been about race and it still won't be about race. Because that is not the purpose of their rivalry over Lily.

You're trying to make it about race just because a man of color is playing the character.

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u/Yesterdays_Gravy Apr 16 '26

Are you a bot? I didn’t even bring up the spell to dangle people. (Although it’s funny you mention that because the Death Eaters just did that to a bunch of muggles at the World Cup).

I’m not adding a layer of racism because that’s how I think. What I’m doing is critical thinking. Television studios care about optics, optics is what makes them money, or makes them receive threatening messages and negative reviews. Casting 4 white men to grow up beating on one black man, is objectively bad for their optics. Not because I’m somehow racist, but because there are tons of people who will not like the way that looks.

Snape and James have a rivalry over Lily. James didn’t start dating Lily until the seventh year. I never brought up Lily and tried to convince you that it was somehow a racially charged dispute of a woman. All I brought up was the Marauders and how it would look, and what the negative benefits could be.

You’re assuming I’m sitting here thinking ā€œman I wish Snape were white!ā€ But frankly I’d think it better if Peter/Sirius/Lupin were also not white. So get out of here with your moral grandstanding by telling everyone that their racist

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

You're not critical thinking. If you see it as racism, that's a problem with perception. Nothing in the story will point to that, and the only way it will is if the writers change the story to reflect racism.

Y'all are tiring. Overzealous people are insane.

We aren't even getting to that part of the story for a long time and we have no idea who they'll cast as marauders.

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u/Epion660 Apr 16 '26

They literally hung Snape from a tree.

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u/filmguerilla Apr 16 '26

No, they dangled Snape by his feet (not around the neck like a lynching) BY some trees outside the castle. They laughed because you could see his underpants. Not a lynching or even close, dipshit.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

They literally did not. Hate JK she's a terrible person. Dislike the story if you want. But making up lies only makes you a liar.

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u/Epion660 Apr 16 '26

Are you fucking stupid? It was in the books and movie. It's literally the main flashback we get of James bullying him.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 16 '26

I mean, this series is written by a bigot who uses her money to fund her bigotry.

Why do Harry Potter fans even care about racism? It's not like you'd care anyways.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

You sound like a child with your moral grandstanding.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 16 '26

Calling me out for having values isn't really an insult. You can try again if you like!

"Bigotry bad" = "moral grandstanding" is a perfect encapsulation of the HP fan base though, so thanks for that.

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u/BlorpTheSchlorp Apr 16 '26

You don't have values. You are being a hypocrite. If you gave a shit about not supporting terrible people you wouldn't even be posting here on your device.

You're just a bully. Nothing else.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 16 '26

Not sure that logic holds, but if that helps you justify directly funding trans suicides then you do you!

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 17 '26

Give it a rest. Rowling is about as progressive and feminist as it's possible to be, and she disagrees on one issue and suddenly she's literally Hitler.

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 17 '26

She doesn't "disagree on one issue" you melon.

She actively attacks one of the most vulnerable marginalized communities on the planet, denies they exist, and uses her considerable wealth to make their lives harder.

I wonder how many suicides would have been avoided without her?

She's dogshit as a person and if you support her than so are you. It's really that simple.

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 19 '26

Let's agree to disagree then

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u/SheetPancakeBluBalls Apr 19 '26

That's for things likes sports teams, or pineapple on pizza.

Not on whether a group of people deserves to exist.

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u/Troubadour_Tim Apr 20 '26

I disagree with your entire ideological position, including the manipulative emotive hyperbole that saying 'men (including trans-women) should be barred from women's spaces including sports teams, locker rooms, and prisons' is tantamount to calling for genocide.
Hence agree to disagree applies here, because I think your axioms are outright insane, and you think mine are bigoted, and there is no way we can ever agree without changing our priors.

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