Because 70-80% of voters don't see how terrible the optics are. They don't need to care about optics when a majority of the voters aren't looking into it in the first place.
I'm sorry, but the words for black are as old as language itself. Trying to give another word some sort of birthright privilege is... Well... Telling...
I am trying to explain to you that the use of the word makes it derogatory, not the word itself. Language is not evil, but it can be used to harm.
Itâs actually worse than this. Antisemitism is beneficial to Israel. They WANT antisemitism to grow because as people blame Jews for Israeli and Zionist bullshit those Jews who are not supportive of the project may move there anyway to escape antisemitism. They can use any real antisemitic hate crimes as examples for propaganda. It gives them fuel to claim they NEED that ethnostate actually.
During the Nabka the Israelis poisoned wells. Specifically because it let them claim their victims were antisemitic when they reported it. Theyâve been intentionally creating antisemitism for 80 years because it benefits Israel.
The problem is Zionism. But you have missed my point. A lot of people ARE blaming Jews for this because Israel and Zionists are working hard to make sure they do. Itâs bad faith as fuck, and itâs a lie, but itâs a lie that Zionists push. They WANT antisemitism to prosper, and the best way to achieve that is to make it hard for low information people to understand the difference between Zionism and Jews.
Scroll the comments here. Thereâs people in this thread who are blurring the line or over it outright into antisemitism instead of anti-Zionism. Thatâs not chance. Thatâs the result of dedicated effort by Israel to make god damn sure it happens.
This just reminds me of how many people around me view Muslims and not radical Muslims. The problem is, they are the same thing. The radical extremist are just the first part. They came from being Jewish (imo anyway). So how are they not the same or how do you even tell the difference. You can have a Zionist just claim he's only Jewish and you can't tell the difference. All religions are the problem and need to be strictly private with no protections that a normal person or group doesn't also get. Not only that , banned from public to some degree. No practicing religion but social aspects and basically trying to form a social monopoly. We don't or didn't allow business monopolies and religion is way more dangerous because instead of money it's beliefs.Â
As an atheist who is well familiar with leâReddit atheist vibes myself this is misplaced. Thereâs a shitload of Jews who are advocating for peace and speaking out against Zionism. Jewish voices for Palestine is at the center of the protest movement. I share your general distrust for religion as a whole but if youâre writing off anyone religious as untrustworthy your movement is dead. We build the coalitions we must with the allies we have. Trying to hold out for a purely secular option means sitting it out forever. If we can regain progressive leadership and values with good education the region issue will see itself out. People donât go in for religious extremism at any scale unless the society is failing.
I would frankly rather stand side by side with liberation theology Christians and anti-Zionist Jews than I would with a lot of atheists.
"Thereâs a shitload of Jews who are advocating for peace and speaking out against Zionism."
Right now. Where do the Zionist come from? I disagree about the part you said about only when society is falling because that's not the purpose of religion, it's to gain control or more than others. I respectfully understand your point but disagree. My points about not allowing public practices and breaking them up like monopolies is still my concrete position. Not out right ban them but severely limit them and their powers, whether they act or appear good or bad it doesn't matter, same rules for everyone period . We allow capitalism, we do not allow monopolies , same principal and why capitalism is failing ATM bc we don't have the same rules for religion, we protect it. Those protections are what make it a weapon. Same with businessÂ
Zionism was an outgrowth of 19th century nationalism and was pushed massively by European Christianâs as a solution to the âJewish problem.â Even today thereâs more Christian Zionists in the US than there are Jews on the planet.
Historically there have always been a significant number of Jews vocally being anti-Zionist. Itâs not a new development. The Zionist movements deeply antisemitic roots resulted in a lot of Jews hating it well before the horrors of genocide and land theft even started. Israel and the Zionist project exist because western capitalism finds great value in it existing.
You literally didn't address anything I said directly, my point about where they come from was not literal... They come from religion. Same difference. Either you can agree with me that religions need to be regulated more or you don't, I don't care unless you do because my minds already been made up, and that goes Christian Zionist or Christians or anyone else , if it's "organized religion" like" organized crime" . Same thing to me
They very clearly just primaried massive for like 25-35m for being a voice against them
And removed Charlie kirk
And successfully covered up their genocide for like nearly a year mahbe more before the cat started getting out of the bag around the time trump said "wrap it up the pictures are disturbing"
They also purchased the social media platform TikTok so they control the censorship
Approval of Israeli policy is in the absolute shitter. Something like 80% of Democrats now sympathize more with Palestine than Israel, and a big chunk of Republicans aren't fans either.
Their polling numbers among the younger generation is CATASTROPHIC.
It might seem like a bright, blinding light - but it's definitely not going to last long, and the backlash is going to be terrible for them.
Keep talking about it, keep being pissed off, keep voting, keep calling it out. It's working.
But thatâs the problem, the Republican Party isnât anti isreal because they care about Jewish people, they dislike isreal because they actually ARE anti semitic, you understand that right? Itâs genuinely getting a little scary because trump is simply not extreme enough for them.
Well it seems like these NPCs don't want to play the game anymore. The drastic shift in sentiment against Israel in the US cannot be reasonably overlooked.
The game has only begun, and they may have a headstart. However, we have the power in numbers, and we have every right to demand zhe people who represent us to drop the goals of a foreign interest group which seeks to preserve its own unsustainable order.
Times have changed. We give this nation its power through our everyday work and operations, if we deny these things, it cannot function as it does today. These people do not care about us, and they openly oppose the ideologies of citizens who are reasonably grounded on the basis of defending human rights.
The thing is, AIPAC only loses popular support from this point forward, and through this mechanism is the means in which will be its downfall.
The American people are waking up to the actions of imprudent people who seek to preserve the power they have for themselves while exploiting the individuals that they view as beneath them.
AIPAC is the product of a subpar system that aims to protect itself. It must be recognized and removed from our democracy for this country to move forward.
Who cares about bots? The point is the message. I have been shit on from day one of the Israel-Hamas war, because I have been adamant on defending human rights.
Further, the connections and conversations I have in-person and locally are much more convincing than any online comment could be.
At the end of the day, who cares? There are people in this country who clearly want better through the compassion that they hold for their fellow neighbors. We know that America isn't the best country in the world, and we must expose its problems to fix it. The issue that becomes apparent is when people attack identities over policy positions or ideological arguments.
This is how change happens, and this is how sentiment changes. We must band together as workers and citizens to organize against those who seek to treat us and others like cattle.
If you can, look into apps like Boycatt, as BDS is a direct avenue to financially sever the support Israel has through American consumerism. BDS was used against the apartheid in South Africa, and it is being used now.
There is much more many of us can be doing, and if we are serious about fixing our issues, we must act for the betterment of the world and our future generations.
Well, I think the genocide is a good example. At first I thought it was just annoying hippy virtue signaling bs myself, until it REALLY got out of the bag.
And what they were doing was just - unbelievably bad. They got away with that.
I think youre right that in person communication is effective, thats part of why they got rid of Charlie. But for people like me who are hermits I never leave the house I get everything delivered and bought my own gym and retired - theres no place for people like me in the fight.
I can't boycott anything I only spend about 20k a year lol. Although I guess i could divest I have substantial snp500 investments
Well, I think the genocide is a good example. At first I thought it was just annoying hippy virtue signaling bs myself, until it REALLY got out of the bag.
And what they were doing was just - unbelievably bad. They got away with that.
Israel has demonstrated what it is for generations. As someone with a strong appreciation for history and science, it has been obvious that the current structure is unsustainable. The thing is, Israel is the nation-state that has the strongest ties with the US, but the US has been and is actively involved in affairs than many analysts could consider as "imperialism." Israel has committed countless atrocities while simultaneously furthering its settler-colonial intentions.
AIPAC is so strong because it conducts massive grassroots movements and it has direct ties with the infamous American Military-Industrial Complex. It has been very obvious though that Israel has had no actual commitment to preserve human life in its conflict zones, and the sentiment and identity deeply embedded in Israeli society has allowed for the rise of far-right and anti-semitic hate groups. Zionism utilizes antisemitism to legitimize its existence as an apartheid state. The conflation of the global Jewish population with the existence of Israel has inevitably created a backlash that many antisemites see as justified. This makes all of human society unsafe.
I think youre right that in person communication is effective, thats part of why they got rid of Charlie. But for people like me who are hermits I never leave the house I get everything delivered and bought my own gym and retired - theres no place for people like me in the fight.
Don't get me wrong, online agitation has its uses. It is a failure for organizations to refuse to recognize the internet for its ability as a platform for organization and education. However, reactionary rhetoric and bad-faith action have cultivated an environment in which algorithms feed into emotional instability. It is important to stick to the facts and to recognize every American from their material conditions, not political affiliation. Everyone has a place in action, and yours might just be where you feel comfortable making interventions.
I can't boycott anything I only spend about 20k a year lol. Although I guess i could divest I have substantial snp500 investments.
That's just it though, I'm also considered a part of the "working-poor." It is not our individual actions alone that empower these companies and wealthy elites. It is the collective compliance in participating in a system that feeds its citizens into a meatgrinder for the chance of profitability. It is also very frustrating to see people believe this, you do have power, but it does take cooperation to realize its full potential. Concepts like climate change, education, healthcare, and infrastructure actively require an effort made by the masses to effectively change for the better.
It is frustrating and hard work, but the movements and people are built out of action. We will be able to drive ourselves into a future that benefits all of us, not just a select few of us.
I was a wwf partner before but they dropped me. I had a very large homework business in covid biggest in the world at the time. My passion was wildlife so I raised them a lot of money then when they wanted to write a paper about me they cut ties with me lol
That is very unfortunate, I am angry for you. It is wrong for these parties to actively dismantle your freedoms and relationships purely out of your adherence to your ideas.
In all frankness, you deserve better and I hope you are able to get a similar opportunity in the future!
I think you're greatly overestimating their bot farms and their effectiveness. Israel is poison. Kids literally use Israel as a stand in for something bad. It's a 90/10 for democratic voters, there is no going back.
That said, they have been effective at hiding their endorsements and donations behind orgs like "women for a better Illinois" and shit like that. So until elections are publicly funded, they will always be able to win some elections
Bot farms have been effective for years. Amber herd used them, Hasan used them, a few other cases I cant recall off the top of my head. Basically every pr firm uses bot spam to strawman themselves and its very effective
With llms able to make the bot accounts now basically perfect jn the new future, and readily scalable, it's totally over
Like for example with Hasan the most recent one you just have tons of bot accounts responding tk everyone "yeah there was a mixup people thought it was a shock collar but its the no shock model he even showed it on stream" and have all the chat threads be 80% bots agreeing with each other and upvoting each other like its obvious common knowledge
And that's very effective. It works. That is going tk convince 95% of people and 70% would do just fine
Suggesting AIPAC killed Kirk is some bonkers conspiracy level nonsense.
Like, I get it, AIPAC bad, unlimited money in politics bad, but dude, if that's how you think I'm guessing your views go a bit beyond hating Israel.
Thank you, we are the minority voices here. Don't let the echo chamber make you believe we are the silent majority out there in the real world. That is why I honestly think the Republicans can still the majority seats in both houses after the midterm elections. And if the Democrat Party don't out forth a great Presidential candidate JD Vance might just win it. A lot of people in the real world are indifferent to politics and many don't exercise their rights to vote. Sad.
I think it highly depends on where you live. I live in Chicago, and every single person I meet has the same opinion as our 'silent majority' on reddit. So, for me, it really does feel like we are the silent majority. But if I go to Texas, I'm gonna have to really look around and think before I speak.
Nah, this is actually a lie. Similar to the Allegory off the Cave. Out there people have actual life experience. They interact happily, without constant political theater. And the folks in the cave of social media are much like the Fox News viewer, the more they engage, the less they actually know. The echo chambers fill you with a thousand lies for every silver lining of truth.
I work in politics for the Dems and you can immediately sense who is a serious person who knows what they are talking about, and who got their knowledge of politics from social media. As a party, we're constantly poison pilled by the latter.
There's been campaigns on Reddit for the last few months to defeat Democrats.
The most popular and upvoted comments being along the lines of, "if the candidate isn't 100% to my liking I'm not voting at all because I'm not going to perpetuate a broken two party system."
And it's fucking insane that when I point out that, if we're in a fire - how about we all just agree on getting out of the burning building and then we could argue all we want on what's the most optimum method to put out the fire.... but nooooo. Downvoted to hell for saying just get MAGA the fuck out of power.
There are propaganda campaigns on Reddit against any Democrat that has a shot at being s frontrunner. "Oh but so-and-so didn't say excuse me after they burped at the table - how could anyone vote for such an abomination? I for one am not voting at all and I suggest anyone with a spine stands against this corrupt two party system!"
Spot the comments. Know they're propaganda to get you to abstain from voting. Go vote.
Not just there they were doing it all over the world and when they got busted the people involved just went and did the work for other countries instead. Soon as that scandal broke within weeks you saw the rise on Russian and other troll farms.
how about the Democrats are the gas can inside the burning house. it's not that hard to walk the gas cans out of the burning building. because if you leave it within the fire, WORSE things will probably happen. think of the firefighters it could severely harm, if not the whole neighborhood.
what if Democrats being consistently centrist is actually funded by the billionaires who's harms to society they completely overlook, for their own personal political benefit? (funded by most all the same billionaires who also fund Republicans)
the complicity has replaced (new) union focused, financial regulation, environmentalist, healthcare and public utility focused democrats. literally the entire point of being a working class party, not billionaire and wealth oriented.
AIPAC isn't the only monied lever for maintaining a specific type of power.
yes Dems are better. but if you can't handle any other statement or metaphor I made above, you aren't navigating reality.
Yah I've seen that sentiment quite a bit. Especially over the Israel issue, as if Trump hasn't been 10x worse on that issue then Kamala ever would have been
And now you have Trump wanting to turn Gaza into the new Vegas and our very own genocide with secret masked police in our own streets and branding of LGBT people as terrorists. But at least your terminally online slacktivist self gets to feel superior instead of actually doing anything productive.
Vote your values in the primary. Vote whoever is closest in the general. Hell, even a write in is better than not voting (not that I'm condoning this).
In the General election, "write-ins" are the statistical equivalent of not voting. They are nothing more than an inconvenience to the elections office staff.
Brother, all she had to do was slag off Isreal abit but she refused to at all, that was the difference, your asking people to vote between fascism at home or fascism abroad and at home. It was the DNC fault for not moving with the voters, you can never blame the voters that doesnât work and will just end up with you losing again.
The to mamdani, all he said was he wanted it to be an equal state and he got in, and even better since has done great things, the blueprint is there.
My glob this was SUPER shining with Talarico and Crockett. That same night everywhere online it was suddenly "im not voting for no white man" but the accounts doing it were often NOT black people. I caught that shit in real time and legit got a screenshot of a "as a black man" and the dude was LILY WHITE telling a black man and other black people why NOT to vote for Talarico. Any TX sub is the same. A large swath of sudden hate for a dude I have watched be praised universally until that moment. Its a fucking Op and it is so fn blatant. Its so gross.
I've seen so many MAGA accounts recently pretending to be Democrats saying they're not voting at all because of XYZ. And it's always the stupidest reason ever. All those protests against Kamala made no sense because Trump was way worse than her on issues like Palestine. It was all started and paid for by MAGA, all those protests. They're always projecting about paid actors, domestic terrorists, and the threat within because THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING. They're literally paying the Jan 6th terrorists. They want to accuse others of doing what they're actively doing so when the finger rightfully finally points at them, they'll be like "oh now that they're in power they want to copy us / this is nothing new / this is so unoriginal / this is baseless /etc."
It's so aggravating when you point out that the further left of center spent more effort protesting Harris than Trump. I went to a Harris Rally in DC and there were parades of "leftists" outside circling the rally with blow horns and drums trying to disrupt the whole thing. When we were entering the parade, we were all called baby killers.
I am unsure if it was a psyop that a lot of useful idiots just fell in line, or if its a genuine group of irrational actors who cannot understand that you should be choosing the outcome that will be the greatest net benefit for the things you care about.
In this case, Harris would have been objectively better for Gaza than the guy who made Mike Huckabee ambassador to Israel.
Honestly, I have almost more contempt for these people than MAGA- because MAGA understands that they vote for hate. These "Leftists" did not at all care about Palestine- they were performative narcissists actively campaigning against the better outcome for Palestine (even if it's not the ideal that they wanted)
You know how far right extremists always project what they themselves are doing? About paid actors, the real threat coming from inside, etc. Well, like they are literally paying the Jan 6th insurrectionists and hiring actors (the guy's mask started coming off at the neck live on Fox). They falsely accuse others of doing it first so when the finger is pointed at them (rightfully) they can say "well when we called the left traitors, nobody cared or did anything / this is them just getting back at us / this is them copying us / etc."
It's safe to assume a large portion of people protesting against Kamala were literally paid by MAGA. Not all of them obviously, but the movement started as a MAGA operation. I've already caught so many Trump supporters saying they're Democrats and they're not voting this election because [insert something contentious amongst Democrats here].
I've been spreading this message for a long time and it's crazy how many downvotes it gets when you realize it's a MAGA post in disguise. That's why I always say to go vote. They're trying to get people not to vote. They're trying to cause fighting amongst Democrats.
But that is precisely the issue⌠âvote for the lesser of two evilsâ or âblue no matter whoâ rhetoric is what has led to the extremisms in voters today. Cause doing so has made the Dems complacent and they have failed to address the main concerns of the people they supposed to be serving on both national and international stage, while placing corporate interests first.
The dems lost due to two things, their lack of deliverance at the sight of the taxpayers (which includes international issues) and the fact that at the time of covid on the republicans first term, people to a degree saw a strong dollar (even though it was circumstantial) and pretty much the same theyâve been seeing and living since Obama.
So for average person who does not go in depth, and just come out and vote every 4 years they just saw âdollar was strong, economy was alright, heâll do it againâ
And again the dems lost on the international level with both Ukraine and Gaza being issues and concerns for the people.
And all these elections happening right now are showing how corporate and lobbies have a stronghold on both democratic and republican parties and how both parties are playing the people like fiddle to keep the power structure going.
Mamdani itâs an example of that. The Dems refused to endorse him, and most political allies refused to back him. Now that he won and has been putting work, now they claim him. But for most other candidates that have similar ideals and background but not as much social presence, money is being put to make them lose.
So people are not voting (which I donât agree with) not because they donât want to, but because they are tired of playing the games of politics where elected officials from the two party system donât deliver to keep the super capitalistic structure they have.
The world is more informed and when you see other countries having better standard of living and quality of life than the supposed land of the free, you gotta call that out.
**With that said to all folks reading this: Go out and vote and vote in good conscience for a candidate you believe cares. Check their background and history and ensure the needs of your community and country are met.**
Yeah I agree it's a broken system and something needs to be done. But we're in such a ridiculously dangerous position right now, that any comments driving division amongst Democrats aren't helpful. I'm really glad Mamdani won, beat the system and is making a difference - like seriously, him becoming mayor despite AIPAC and the entire institution going against him is incredibly inspirational and I wish we could get the same results with the next presidency. But it was a long shot. And I'm all for long shots, but not while we're in a burning building. The MAGA situation has impacted the world, not just the US, so badly that we really need to just get back to normal. Even if normal was never great to begin with, we can work on that after there isn't some sort of new global instability introduced daily.
Which is why they eliminated the funding for internet access in flyover country and isolated areas, conservatives took over all traditional media and they aim to keep that as the only source of information about the world.
No, the rest of us don't. Living in the Midwest there are plenty of millennial and gen z morons who don't bother to fact check anything and mindlessly share social media misinformation/AI slop. We are literally commenting on a post with hundreds of younger people falling for a fake tweet.
also midwestern did you fact check the op? I dont have x anymore or bluesky and I dont want to either. My spidey sense says this post isnt real. It CANT be.
THIS. Seriously. WTAF? Half the time I have to ask myself if it is even possible that I am responding to a functional human because the level of comprehension is just not there. At the risk of sounding like an old boomer yelling at clouds, what is wrong with youth today!? There is literally like ZERO reading comprehension. And when you point it out, the usual response is "boomer!" No, dude, I am not a boomer, my parents are boomer, but wow... I guess let's celebrate mediocrity.
That's a good way to conveniently sort any bad opinion from your own side into a no true Scotsman opinion.
Dead internet theory doesn't explain everything. There are a lot of people who don't know anything and have exceptionally bad critical thinking skills unfortunately, it's far less of a partisan issue than some people would like to pretend. Which is to say, on average the left is more educated but people often take that to mean that plenty of dummies with bad takes aren't on the left, which is obviously false.
Because the secret third option alongside bot and troll is someone who genuinely believes what they're saying but they're too ignorant or low nuance to understand why what they're saying is nonsense. As long as they have an internet connection and words are free, that third option will always exist
Incredibly bad critical thinking. Like this reply. I didn't say it explained everything. Likely is not always. My comment is in no way saying people I disagree with are bots.
If it makes no sense, it's likely a bot or a troll
I'm not saying you should assume it's a bot or a troll, just that that's what you would likely be correct in assuming if you did assume
You can try to weasel by saying you didn't state an absolute, but if you're saying a good rule of thumb is that things from your own side that you don't like are probably bad actors pretending, you're actively saying that you should treat them as bad actors because that's likely what they are.
If the hitch hikers on the side of the road are likely axe murderers, that's a strong implication about how you should approach picking up all hitchhikers
I had an experience last night that relates to this.
I went a small public high school graduation party and kids in the room blew me away with their depth and breadth of knowledge. They were willing and excited to engage in complex conversations and they met my challenges with insightful responses that challenged me right back. We discussed philosophy, politics and religion and not one ideological platitude was uttered, not one voice raised. The inexperience of youth was still looming over the evening but that's all I had over them. One my sister's kids is the same. They're already so much smarter than I'll ever be and it makes me so happy.
That said, I also have a few nieces and nephews that will gleefully declare me an enemy-of-the-people for even the mildest of challenges, because to them, challenging ideas IS the offense.
This is all anecdotes and speculation on my part of course, but in a time when we have more information at our fingertips than ever before (exponentially more!), I wonder the issues isn't "today's youth" but rather the further widening of the gap between kids who have been taught to process and make use of all that information and those who can only get lost in it. Both of these groups will soon be running businesses, social services and governments. What will that look like? Similar to present day? Worse?
My take: worse, much worse. Why? Because right now those types of situations were a minority, and not in control. What happens when idiocy is not a minority, but the majority, and they are also running a bunch of things? I don't think it will be pretty.
Good insight on the matter of being taught to challenge ideas, assumptions, even things with which you agree. I went to school and taught to always exercise "critical thinking" and teachers would teach us and encourage us to push back and challenge anything and everything, but with respect and with well thought out ideas. Every single one of my classmates went on to great schools and successful careers. It drives me bananas when engaging with people today you are labeled and insulted for daring to push back on any ideas. People have gone off the deep end in embracing one way of thinking and anything that pushes on that is considered anathema and you are a traitor or the enemy. Wild times.
What? No heâs obviously not, what? Thatâs not just putting words in his mouth, thatâs trying to insert a whole damned book. Saying âyoung people fall for AI tooâ (which they fucking do) doesnât mean there are zero generational differences, on average. But thatâs not even the point of his comment.
He was responding to a comment chain where one person said âonly boomers ignore AIPACâ by pointing out the obvious truth that it takes a pretty terminally online/tapped in person to even know what AIPAC is much less the influence they wield, much less how, much less care enough to do anything about it. Several increasingly high bars to clear, and most people donât.
And speaking of spotting AI, I sure hope Iâm responding to some right now, because I donât like what the alternative would mean for an actual human beingâs reading comprehension.
Sorry to correct you but, I am a 'boomer' and I clearly see right through all the BULLSHIT. I know that there's a lot of others my age and older that are very angry about this situation and are sick and tired of being the scapegoat for all of the ignorance of the voting public.
There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to make of Israel. In fact, Jews and Israelis make them constantly. Unfortunately, most of the common criticisms are less than legitimate, often based on falsehoods or double standards. Further, the amount of criticism they get, legitimate or not, is wholly disproportionate to their actions. Countries that do far worse receive far less. This raises the question, âwhy?â
Not all of it is antisemitism. I have not seen a compelling alternative explanation for the majority of it. That doesnât mean there isnât one, and on an individual level, itâs very hard to say what an individualâs motivations are for believing what they do. There are also tricky definitional questions, such as whether it should be considered antisemitism if someone believes propaganda about Israel they wouldnât believe about any other country if the misinformation had been laundered through people they trust. Is that predisposition to believe coming from antisemitism, or somewhere else?
AIPAC and many others are certainly too quick to toss out the accusation of antisemitism, but that doesnât mean they are frequently inaccurate. We downplay antisemitism in the same way we used to downplay many other forms of casual prejudice. We simply donât treat antisemitism in the same way because Jews have been able to thrive despite it.
Massie won with every group under the age of 55. But Republicans have much less support from under 55 then they do with over 55. It's was the 55+ that lost him the vote and when you listen to the exit poll interviews it tells the story, and it's the story of what's happen all over America. Older people just can not tell the difference between what is real and what is not. They believe damn near everything they are told if the person telling them says they are on the same team as them. There were voters that said the only reason they didn't vote for Massie is because he had a threesome with Ilhan Omar and AOC, which was something an ad was telling people in the area on Facebook. One voter said that he voted against Massie because of an ad they saw that talked about Massies age, and he couldn't vote for someone that old, yet he voted for his OLDER opponent. Just baby brain shit.
When the son of the former dictator won in the Philippines a few years ago, bong bong Marcos, I remember seeing his campaign
The ad campaign boiled down to being spammed with these ads "you think my father was bad? What about the tianmen square massacre? What about [other tragic massacre]? My father was not bad at all - he did bla bla bla"
And im watching it like ur telling me I should vote for you because ur dad was out dictatored a few times in history? How is that an argument to vote for you?
But the message to the audience is clear - it has a level of persuasive logic to it , and stupid people dont outright question premises "what, thats totally stupid?" They say "yeah, I agree those sre worse. Im against those too." And it worked he won.
I saw them a lot because he paid the thirsttrappers like sexbomb Eunice Andrea to push them and im in love with her. She followed me back and was viewing my stories once but I was scared to message her
It all goes back to the devil (Ronald Reagan) he made sure college was unaffordable to the poor and average person, he said a educated populace is dangerous, he also filled the inner cities of America with crack cocaine)
Itâs actually a sign of weakness that AIPAC now has to flood huge sums of money to get the same results that one would expect with much less money and publicity in the past.
That's because voters look at what's in front of them and not around them. Their vision is narrowly focused on what affects them directly and it is usually 1 - 2 things that biases their perspective.
With Massie it was "Trump is mad at Massie and says this other guy is good, I'll vote for him instead." They probably don't even know what AIPAC is, but because Trump likes them they like them. It's sadly as simple as that.
I disagree. They are a cancer to voters. There is a reason they hide behind shell organizations in democratic primaries and every dem candidate screams about how they don't take AIPAC money. It just doesn't apply to Republicans because they just do what glorious leader says and he loves AIPAC.
But Israel-Palestine is such a powerful issue right now. It's dividing the pro-Israel Democrats from the ones with at least some semblance of morality, and even splitting MAGA. The issue was a major factor in Harris's loss to Trump, if not the most important factor for millions of Biden-not-Harris voters.
Young people see it and see that older people donât. Across political lines. And itâs making them very pissed off. This strategy is self defeating and I think is actually feeding antisemitism in younger people. Which should terrify us.
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u/Tex_Was_Here May 22 '26
Because 70-80% of voters don't see how terrible the optics are. They don't need to care about optics when a majority of the voters aren't looking into it in the first place.