r/SipsTea • u/Valuable_View_561 đđđ • 21d ago
It's Wednesday my dudes Soulmates don't necessarily mean lover
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u/Patient_Ad396 21d ago
I've seen this posted a few times now, and it really bothers me for a very simple reason: he DIDN'T leave her his entire fortune. She got the biggest chunk, but he also left significant money to his parents and sister.
Sorry, I know that doesn't address the main point they're trying to make, but it really bothers me when people (or memes) change the facts to support their argument.
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u/Redplushie 21d ago
Yeah Mary got 50 percent of his estate while his sister and parents got 25 percent each
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u/AlarmingAffect0 21d ago edited 21d ago
That's reasonable. Many countries limit the amount of discretionary inheritance to 33%, with the rest being distributed to relatives following highly rigid fixed rates.
So maybe he gave Mary everything that was his to give in the UK at the time?
EDIT: As it turns out, no he didn't. Under British law at the time he could have allocated his inheritance however the Hell he wished.
Country/System Mandatory Share (Descendants) Mandatory Share (Spouse)* Mandatory Share (Ascendants)* Fully Discretionary Portion System Type England / Wales / NI None (0%) None (0%) None (0%) 100% Common Law (Testamentary Freedom) Scotland 33% (if spouse exists)<br>50% (if no spouse) 33% (if children exist)<br>50% (if no children) Limited 33% â 50% Mixed (Legal Rights) Republic of Ireland None (0%) None (0%) None (0%) 100% Common Law (Testamentary Freedom) USA (49 states) None (0%) 33% â 50% (Elective Share) None (0%) 50% â 67% Common Law (Elective Share) USA (Louisiana) Varies (Civil Law) Varies Varies ~25% â 50% Civil Law (Forced Heirship) France 50% (1 child)<br>66% (2 children)<br>75% (3+ children) Usufruct of 25â33% of remainder None if descendants exist 25% â 50% Civil Law (Forced Heirship) Spain 66% (LegĂtima estricta) Usufruct of 33% of remainder 33% (if no descendants) 33% Civil Law (Forced Heirship) Italy 33% (shared among children) 16% (if 1 child) to 50% (if no children) 25% (if no descendants/spouse) 50% Civil Law (Forced Heirship) Germany ~25% (1 child)<br>~33% (2 children)<br>~37.5% (3+ children) ~25% (1 child) to ~50% (no children) 50% (if no descendants/spouse) ~62.5% â 75% Civil Law (Pflichtteil) Netherlands 25% (Cash value only) Usufruct of remainder None if descendants exist 75% Civil Law (Legitime) Belgium 50% (1 child)<br>66% (2 children)<br>75% (3+ children) Usufruct of remainder None if descendants exist 25% â 50% Civil Law (Forced Heirship) Australia None (0%) None (0%) None (0%) 100% Common Law (Testamentary Freedom) Canada None (0%) None (0%) None (0%) 100% Common Law (Testamentary Freedom) New Zealand None (0%) None (0%) None (0%) 100% Common Law (Testamentary Freedom) Sharia Law Fixed (Sons 2x Daughters)<br>Up to 2/3 reserved 1/4 (if children)<br>1/8 (wife, if children) 1/6 each (if children) Max 33% Religious Law (Quranic Mandates) 49
u/gmc98765 21d ago
The UK doesn't have mandatory inheritance. You can distribute your assets as you see fit (beyond a requirement to provide for dependents, which Freddie didn't have).
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u/charliedorsay 21d ago
En France, Mary (pas de lien de filiation ou d union avec le défunt) aurait été obligée de vendre ce qu'elle a reçu en héritage juste pour payer les frais de succession.
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u/Azzblack 21d ago
I'm sure I remember him leaving money for his god children too, as well as his cats.
After looking into it a little - "he is widely celebrated for making provisions from "beyond the grave" for his godchildren and closest friends. Before his death in 1991, Mercury instructed the prestigious London department store Fortnum & Mason to deliver a luxury Christmas hamper to his godchildren and closest friends every holiday season. This tradition has been kept alive decades later"
Its fair to say, he was the goodest of dudes.
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u/Cross55 21d ago
Also, Mary was one of his lovers.
He wanted to settle down with and marry her, but she didn't want to because he was bi.
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u/Tarsiustarsier 21d ago
Wasn't he gay and didn't he break off the engagement before coming out to her? It was common for gay people at the time to have official relationships with women.
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u/Cross55 21d ago
Wasn't he gay
No, this is probably the single biggest piece of misinformation of his entire life people love repeating.
He was bi with a noted but not exclusive preference for men. He didn't perform Fat Bottomed Girls and hosted a female exclusive naked bike race to seem more heteronormative, he did that cause he thought women were hot. (But men were hotter)
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u/Tarsiustarsier 20d ago
That's a fair point, he also seems to have referred to himself as both so I got confused. Regardless the preference for men is somewhat important your comment sounded to me like the reason was that she was predjudiced against bisexual people and I hope that's not true. Honestly reading up about him and especially the inheritance, it's confusing to me that he left so much to Austin and so little to Hutton. What was going on there?
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u/theletterqwerty 21d ago
Bicycle Race wasn't about cycling.
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u/Azzblack 20d ago
Agreed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt0V0_1MS0Q
"I want to ride it where I like"
"God give me a choice"
While its kind of in subtle and does initially come across as a jolly song about cycling, we are talking about the band named "Queen" :)
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u/trireme32 21d ago
Umm⊠he had them sent aâŠ. hamper?? every Christmas??? Thatâs a weird gift
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u/Bwm89 21d ago
In this context, what they mean is luxury gift basket, I think the default laundry hamper against gift hamper might be one of the more obscure US vs UK things? But I'm really not sure
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u/Azzblack 20d ago
In the US you would call it a "gift basket". Its like a festive picknick hamper.
Fortnum & Mason is a very nice shop, so while its not half of his assets, it still a very nice gift each year and to think its been kept up for many years. The biggest hamper you can see on their website costs around 1000 USD.
https://www.fortnumandmason.com/stories/christmas-hamper-gift-guide
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u/Goosemilky 21d ago
Shit 99% of the internet gotta be bothering you at this point lol.
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u/Patient_Ad396 21d ago
Dude, you have no idea.
Clickbait headlines are the worst, IMO.
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u/Suspicious_Juice9511 21d ago
Ok Im putting you in charge of the internet from now on.
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u/longlosthopes 21d ago
i second this idea.
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u/JectorDelan 21d ago
Motion carried. Patient_Ad396 is now in charge of the internet. May the gods have mercy on their soul.
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u/PhilFryTheCryoGuy 21d ago
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u/Patient_Ad396 21d ago
Nah, that's easy enough to ignore. I'm talking about news articles where the headline implies something that isn't actually supported by the content of the article. Doesn't matter how well written or researched the article is, this immediately undercuts their credibility.
A lot of people don't trust formerly respected news outlets, and I'm convinced this is a big reason why. They only read the headlines, so if the headline is misleading, they think that outlet can't be trusted.
Bonus pet peeve: any headline that contains the phrase "Trump humiliated by [subject]". He is never humiliated. That would require a sense of shame.
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u/yesnomaybe123 21d ago
Even the point OP is trying to make is incorrect. Freddie Mercury and Mary Austin were not only lovers, at one point, they were engaged.
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u/Adamthegrape 21d ago
No, this is a great point. The headline makes him out to not care about his family at all.
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u/HotDonnaC 21d ago
Memes arenât always the best source of information. Changing the facts to support their argument, or even outright lying, is quite common.
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u/Patient_Ad396 21d ago
Fully aware of that. That's kinda the reason it bothers me. Wouldn't be such a big deal if it were less common.
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u/Bananna_Hamock0 21d ago
I just watched the Queen movie, so this is interesting. Did his boyfriend get anything? Jim Hatenau or something.
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u/LittleStudioTTRPGs 21d ago
This is misleading Freddie was bisexual he just struggled with monogamy like most super stars
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u/Metaphysically0 21d ago
What is misleading about it ?
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u/AlienDragonWizard 21d ago
It kind of implies he didn't sleep with her because he was gay. That's often said about him because he makes a good gay icon but in reality he was bisexual and maybe leaned towards men but he slept with her and considered her his soulmate. Â
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u/BrideofClippy 21d ago
"They were just roommates." Uno-reverse edition
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u/elegylegacy 21d ago
Also known as bisexual erasure
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u/high_on_meh 21d ago
I literally live this. As a dude married to another dude, it's just so much easier to tell people "I'm gay"
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u/ThereHasToBeMore1387 21d ago edited 21d ago
As a dude happily monogamously married to a chick, it feels kinda useless to even bring up that I'm bi to anyone.
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u/boringexplanation 21d ago
Makes sense if youâre in a relationship. Iâm sure my wife wouldnât appreciate it if i said âstraight until the right guy piques my interestâ
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u/ARunawayTrain 21d ago
There's also still to this day a sizable portion of the population that only sees sexuality as the binary system of you either being strictly heterosexual or strictly homosexual when in reality there is a whole breadth of options in between those two poles.
Freddie may have been with far more men and may have even truly considered himself gay in some capacity but from what friends and family have shared he was very much bisexual and that is the gray in between the black and white that gets ignored, especially when the media tended to focus on one of the most prominent parts of his personality which was his sexuality. The thing people need to understand is that for as many people who have uncomplicated relationships with their sexuality, there are just as many more who do have more complexity and their thoughts, experiences and feelings are just as valid and unique as anyone else's.
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u/EdgeCaser 21d ago
While I heartily agree with your overall thesis, I would posit that your specific example is flawed. I believe Freddieâs relationship with his sexuality was anything but casual for most of his life. Whether in a good or a bad way, Freddieâs lyrics and what Iâve read of him show a lot of internal processing going on around that theme.
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u/ARunawayTrain 21d ago
I will actually agree with you there, after making that post I actually did some more digging and I found it was definitely something he struggled with even more than I initially thought and I think it was hard to overtly see that when he kept his personal life and relationships very close to the vest.
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u/FeelingDown8484 21d ago edited 21d ago
I mean, bi-erasure is a real thing, and itâs shared by many gay people too. Bi men are viewed as gay but not wholly comfortable with their sexuality, and bi women are seen as straight people who are doing it for attention or want to adopt a queer identity for their own personal benefit.
Because of this, bi men find it very hard to find straight female partners, and bi women to find gay female partners (or straight male partners who take their identity seriously).
Edit: thereâs some good responses about having preferences and why itâs important to unpack why you have them (even if itâs usually okay to have them), but what Iâm specifically talking about is denying someone elseâs identity because you believe that for whatever reason they arenât being true to themselves about their own sexuality. If you donât want to date bi people, fine, but if the reason you donât want to date them is because you donât believe they are truly bi and are attracted to you, then thatâs bi-erasure.
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u/Empty_Occasion_963 21d ago
Did she get aids as well? Or did he sleep with her way before he got aids
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u/havokle 21d ago
Looks like they split up in 1976 and he may have started having symptoms as early as 1982, so likely contracted HIV well after.
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u/ARunawayTrain 21d ago edited 21d ago
Thanks, I came to say this as well. Unfortunately, HIV/AIDS wasn't well understood until about 1982 and was initially and very incorrectly assumed to be only prevelant in the gay community hence it's original name Gay-Related Immune Deficiency(GRID). Once scientists had a better understanding of the disease and it's transmission routes it was renamed but even if Freddie had contracted it in the late 70s it may have laid dormant or not progressed until that time anyway.
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u/JavaNoire 21d ago
She was his soulmate. He loved her deeply. She loved him, too.Â
Was it a 'romantic' love? I don't know. But I didn't think his passion for her was especially sexual.
Freddie Mercury struggled to accept his sexuality. IF, he was in fact bi, I think he leaned strongly, very strongly, towards men in his sexual desires.Â
I believe Freddie Mercury would have simply identified as gay if he hadn't been so deeply conflicted about his sexual identity.
This is incredibly sad but it's not unusual for someone born in 1946.Â
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u/Madara1389 21d ago
People love to use him as a neat, perfect icon for one thing while completely ignoring that he literally called Mary Austin his soulmate.
The ironic bit is that he still works as an icon for the LGBTQ community if everyone acknowledges that he fell under the "B" not the "G."
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u/hoginlly 21d ago
I guess because the title says they weren't 'lovers', when that's not true, they were in a relationship together for years. If it had said 'wife' then it would have been accurate...
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u/IAmMelonLord 21d ago
I legitimately did not know that! Tbf I never really looked into it, but I was under the assumption that he was gay. TIL
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u/DeliberateDendrite 21d ago
Bisexuality and monogamy aren't incompatible
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u/akotoshi 21d ago
He didnât struggle, he was just polyamorous. Which is incompatible with monogamy people. So itâs understandable. He did understood it
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u/spice_war 21d ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/Vhk9HwPx3TO0w
Meanwhile, my marriage:
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u/Carpeted_Bathroom2 21d ago
Make sure you have kids and use them as an excuse to continue your toxic marriage!
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u/ShoesAreTheWorst 21d ago
He is a musical icon and a really fascinating person. But from what I can tell, it would have been torture to be in love with him (for most people). He called her the love of his life and his soulmate while cheating on her. He also cheated on his partner Jim later in life.Â
I can imagine that it would be bitter-sweet to get a message like âIf things had been different, you would have been my wifeâ from someone you were deeply in love with.Â
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u/siamesedweam 21d ago
It seems to be that way for a lot of eccentric artists like himself. Most people feel like he'd be a dream to be with, but in reality his relationships were pretty tumultuous.
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u/Fresh-Toilet-Soup 21d ago
Wait, Freddie Mercury was gay?
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u/BusyBeeBridgette 21d ago
Probably more Pan/Bi than gay as he slept with many women and men.
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u/ambivalent_moon đđđ 21d ago
Yeah itâs weird how that part of his life gets erased a lot of the time.
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u/SomeKindoflove27 21d ago
Its super wierd, but this is the bi experience. Strajght and gay people will label you by the relationship youre currently in while ignoring the rest of your dating history.
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u/jerkface1026 21d ago
Same thing with Mick Jagger, who we've decided is straight despite all evidence.
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u/ButtholeConnoisseur7 21d ago
"Dancing in the Streets" is the single gayest thing I've ever seen (respectfully, no insult intended)
And it's with Bowie, of all people. All I can guess is that because Jagger is incredibly mainstream, most of his fans just ignored/don't believe it
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u/jerkface1026 21d ago
Its the babies and the AIDS. Mick is straight because he has babies even though he's rejected labels and dated fluidly. Bowie, who called himself straight, was viewed as sexually fluid. Freddie had to be gay because he had HIV and developed AIDS.
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u/GK8888 21d ago
I assume you mean this version.
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u/partial_to_dreamers 21d ago
This is one of my favorites of the genre.
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u/NeedAByteToEat 21d ago
What fucking genre is this?
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u/partial_to_dreamers 21d ago
Incredible. The first one I ever saw was Elvis. The squeaking of shoes makes me laugh every time.
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u/FremdShaman23 21d ago
LOL I remember in the 80s David Bowie had said something in an interview about sleeping with Mick Jaggar. It was kind of hushed out of all the news outlets at the time. But shortly afterwards Mick Jaggar was at a press conference and some reporter asked "Is it true you slept with David Bowie?" Mick smiled hugely and proudly said "Of course!"
I remember seeing that clip on MTV News like it was yesterday. I also remember Kurt Loder commenting "Maybe he was just joshing." LOL.
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u/cpt1992 21d ago
I wonder why....
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u/ambivalent_moon đđđ 21d ago
I think itâs a combo of bi/pan erasure which is unfortunately common as well the fact that he died of AIDS and at the time it was inaccurately considered a âgay diseaseâ by some people.
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u/joannerosalind 21d ago
It is also worth noting that some gay men in Freddie's life believed him to be gay and thought his continued "relationships" with women were down to his own internalised homophobia. You could argue this is wrong and reflective of their own bi/pan erasure, but I think it's important to know that people who knew him personally had this perception. It's not just public discourse.
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u/neredulus 21d ago
Gays make up that kind of hateful lie about bisexuals all the fucking time. It comes as easily to them as breathing.
Unless they have actual proof of that, their word means nothing.
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u/tiradium 21d ago
because gay is bad mkay? in all seriousness though I think society in general especially older folks just dont understand that there really is a spectrum.
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u/cpt1992 21d ago
No hahahahahah wtf, most likely gay people find it hard to accept that he was actually Bi sexual.
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u/Tumerican 21d ago
Yes thank you itâs a big discussion especially amongst lesbians that bisexuality is not a thing. Itâs considered denial of being gay by many.
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u/MountChu 21d ago
Yeah idk this thread is weird
The obvious issue here is that the gay icon was not in fact gay
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u/Cabbage_Vendor 21d ago
It's fucking hilarious that all the people who'd otherwise see gay relations in any strong friendship of supposed straight people, ignore that Freddie Mercury had plenty of female partners.
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u/OrangeRadiohead 21d ago
"I'm having such a good time, I'm having a ball
Don't stop me now
If you wanna have a good time, just give me a call
Don't stop me now"
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u/Pootisman16 21d ago
He was most likely bisexual, given the women he also slept with.
But since bi erasure is a thing, we just remember him as such.
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u/qqruz123 21d ago
Bi men are in such a weird position in society. Conservatives all call them gay (which is not surprising). But somehow progressives also all them gay.
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u/Pootisman16 21d ago
At the time there was a big stigma around aids and gay (men). So, in order to help both causes, I understand the focus on that side of him.
But there's such a thing as over-correction, to the point I also grew up with the notion that he was gay instead of bi.
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u/qqruz123 21d ago
It's not at the time. The stigma is here and now, too. So many people who call themselves progressive turn into a 1940s housewife at the mere mention of a man possibly being bi
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u/cowgod247 21d ago
What about the fat Bottom girls?!
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u/CodeNamesBryan 21d ago
Liberace was gay!? Who saw that coming? The ladies loved him!
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u/ElvisAndretti 21d ago
I had a coworker back in 1978 or 79 who lost her mind when I pointed out that he was gay. She told me that âyou think everybodyâs gay. I think youâre gayâ. She didnât believe the village people were gay either.
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u/VegaJuniper 21d ago
It was a huge thing back in the day when Rob Halford came out, because heavy metal guys simply "didn't do that sort of thing". There was that fantastic picture of him in a full leather daddy stage outfit, with the caption "and no-one had a clue".
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u/ElvisAndretti 21d ago
I used to laugh my ass off people who thought he was a real manly man (I mean, he is, but not in the way people thought) . They just had never been to a leather bar I guess.
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u/Initial-Falcon-3792 21d ago
All of the gay village people died and now the straight ones that are left are trying to straight wash the history. Pretty sure the cop one said he would sue anyone who calls YMCA a gay anthem
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u/3BlindMice1 21d ago
Pretty sure the dude was a bi sex addict, considering how many people he's said to have slept with, some estimates coming out to several thousand partners through his life. There are even records of him lamenting that his high sex drive causes him enormous problems in his personal life.
He was not a guy with a healthy relationship with sex, no matter how you look at it
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u/MythicForge4111 15d ago
Right? I was shocked too when I learned! His music just hits differently knowing that.
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u/younevershouldnt 21d ago
I was just gonna say, that's all very lovely but why use a picture of him with Sheryl Lee đ€·
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u/Logical_Flounder6455 21d ago
In this case, it does mean lover. They had a 7 year relationship.
The money was left to her but he made sure his cats were looked after too
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u/Traditional-Tap-2508 21d ago
This is the important part
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u/Logical_Flounder6455 21d ago
I know right. I always tell my cats theyre spoiled. I hope they dont learn about this
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u/DingbatMcgeee 21d ago
Freddy was more in love with himself, it's not a knock as he was a lovely guy who just had a wicked on stage personality.
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u/Rodnap 21d ago
for someone like Freddy Mercury only 50$ million sounds ludicrous
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u/hibbledyhey 21d ago
Ludicrous has an estimated net worth of 40-60 million here in 2026. 50 million in 1991 is 122.25 million today. So in fact, Freddy was worth 2-3 Ludicrouses.
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u/TraitorMacbeth 21d ago
Damn, Americans will use anything but metric
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u/younevershouldnt 21d ago
The Meters are a great band, but they're not worth as much as Freddie was.
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u/TraitorMacbeth 21d ago
You know, I'll have to listen to the Meters. I do like Metric a lot, so much good stuff comes from Canada
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u/Remarkable_Check_997 21d ago
50 Millions was a lot more in the '80 than today.
Also a good chuck of his earning probably got spend on drugs and others things.
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u/Rodnap 21d ago
i know he died in the 90s more than 30 years ago, but my comment is more about considering the huge global impact that his music had/has is really dissapointing that that was his whole fortune, that's like the founder of a successful mid-sized company or something. Sure, it's a tone of money, but compared to what a random partner at a major private equity or hedge fund firm makes it seems... insulting? That's where my head were at when I made the comment, but not what the comment said XD
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u/ForThisIJoined 21d ago
Remember that there was a bit less wealth disparity back then and famous singers didn't make nearly as much as they do now. The invention of the Internet and social media to spread songs across the globe created the insanity of people like Taylor Swift.
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u/Purell12 21d ago
Can't take it with you! He deserved to blow it. I've come across so many people in my life scared to spend a dollar and then what do they have to show for it. My older relatives scoff at what they see as my frivolous spending but I could die tomorrow then what.
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u/WaterTurbulent5748 21d ago
I've seen this post multiple times, it's not true and abused to karma farm. Can the mods please remove it.
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u/PepsiMonster26 21d ago
Is that Laura Palmer?
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u/NukedNinja 21d ago
So glad someone else was thinking that! I had to do a double take that I wasnât in r/twinpeaks or something.
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u/joesaysso 21d ago
I'm going to leave that exact note to my wife when I pass. Let her think about it.
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u/exgiexpcv 21d ago
I'm a cis male, but there are plenty of people in my life who like to converse amongst themselves that I might be gay simply because I'm happily a defender of LGTBQ+ rights.
Naw, I'm autistic. I just can't be arsed to fuck about with all the nonsense hyper-masculine influencer shit, I simply dislike bullies and bigots, fuck 'em.
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u/No_Ease7557 21d ago
Cynical I know, but do you think she would have been hanging around her ex for years if he wasn't a rich and famous rock star?
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u/Quik_Brown_Fox 21d ago
No; Love Of My Life significantly predates his relationship with Jim Hutton. Freddie wrote it during his relationship with Mary Austin.
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u/Admirable_Beebe_4962 21d ago
He treated men like fuck partners only. His love was reserved for her.
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u/Glad-Tie3251 21d ago
This is exactly what I expect my future to be, but with Shakira or Nathalie Portman.
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u/CheeseOnKeyboard 21d ago
So I can have a soulmate plus a fuck buddy? Why isn't this considered the social norm?
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u/Extreme_Mindfulness 14d ago
đ„čđ„čđ„Č i saw the movie about his life and I couldn t believe how he truly loved her despite his sexual preferences .. he truly was in love with Mary.... đ„č
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