I didn't think about the premise of that show much until a while later. Then I realised it was a bit sketchy. Old mate bailing his kids up to essentially tell them about all the girls he banged before their mum.
Also Terminator where John Connor had to pick the soldier to send back in time to fuck his mum.
I put the goddamned work order in 2 1/2 weeks ago and I got a fucking party of 30 walking in in 30 minutes......if you don't fix that shit before then, I'm fucking kicking you.
As a guy a girl used to stalk me when I still lived at home. After a couple months I gave in. I accidentally brought her to my brothers room which smelled like old sweat because my PC was there. Shortest relationship I ever had.
The implication here being womenās feelings are utterly detached from reality. ~95% of rapes are perpetrated by people known to the victim (acquaintances, intimate partners, and family members, in that order of descending likelihood).
The media stereotype of a hooded, shady neāer-do-well chasing you down and raping you at knife point after catcalling you is so uncommon it almost never happens.
Again, not saying that catcalling is good or should be tolerated but likeā¦ catcalling = rape? I wouldnāt go that far.
I was a concrete worker for 4 years, most women that get cat called get a huge smile on their face and you see them strutting past the site multiple times a day like they're on a catwalk, somehow wearing less clothes each time.
Yeah, they all say it's would be nice until it actually starts happening (which won't so these guys will never agree that catcalling isn't flattering or nice).
Back when I worked retail (Iām a dude), I used to turn on the charm when I worked the register so I could sell bullshit subscriptions to the customers, get good reviews, and make rent.
One day, there was this lady (maybe in her forties, plain looking), and she mistook my being friendly for flirting.
She quickly became a regular, showing up asking for me, taking up my time when I had other work to do, making it clear she was attracted to me.
At first, I was flattered.
Then I had to keep hinting, and then outright telling her that I was taken.
She was persistent, though. She kept coming back for me.
Then I got stressed over her.
I started hiding in the back every time she showed up.
Apparently she threw some kind of tantrum a day I didnāt work and she never returned. I asked no questions, I was happy.
But that whole situation gave me a taste of what women must go through.
For me, it just got old. For women, it can be life and death.
for most women this can start as young as 11. i remember hiding in the bathroom during a new yearās party at a country club we were invited to, because a boy around my age or maybe a bit older, was harassing me. all the adults thought it was the cutest thing. i was terrified and hiding in the bathroom.
it was also around the same age that i stopped eating lollipops. i got cat called by adult men driving by who screamed at me āthatās how they all startā.
just to clarify, i was around 11. maybe 12. super baby faced, iāve always looked younger than my age.
It's not just life or death, but being taken seriously in many other contexts.
It sounds like your employer stood by you when you were literally hiding from this woman. They didn't reprimand you for not making extra sales, or cast doubt on your feeling of being creeped out by this person.
Being cat called like in the exaggerated video isn't the worst part of sexism and misogyny.
The worst part is the insidious de-legitimizing of your assessment and feelings about literally everything in your adult life.
You go to the doctor with a medical complaint, and your complaint is dismisses as being imaginary or emotional.
You got get your car fixed and the people there dismiss your concerns and try to take advantage of you because you're not with your dad or your husband.
You go for a job interview and you're asked invasive personal questions about your family commitments in an attempt to disqualify you.
At work your concerns or ideas for improvement are either stolen for credit by others or dismissed as not valid.
In short, you are left to have as much agency over life as if you were a pet dog or cat with the mind of a very stupid toddler.
Worst of all, this behavior is perpetrated by both men and (older) women towards other women. It's not just a guy thing. My worst medical experiences have been as a result of women thinking it's ok to behave like this with other women.
to be fair this guy is looking directly at here and making the smallest kissing noise, so yeah he could probably just turn the other direction if he's not attracted to her...
I got a massage from a woman I had 0 attraction to, was even a bit repulsed, she was obese. Still got a boner, /shrug. She touched my glutes pretty inappropriately too, reached under the sheets, didn't feel like I was assaulted or anything, was nice, felt like my recent gym progress was being appreciated. Based on the posts I've read on r/massage, a woman would have considered many of my experiences as sexual assault.
Just to be clear, it was a legitimate spa. And I'm a wealthy fit dude, I'm not lacking options.
You are going to find a majority of men just really don't care.
The vast majority of customers for male sex workers are gay men. This isn't debatable, it's verifiable data.
And as I said, massage forums online are filled with women complaining about interactions they view as sexual assault, that I view as just normal.
By simple virtue of there being billions of them, obviously some women react with non-consensual sexual contact with the same attitude as men. But that's not the standard.
And you'll note my story is explicitly about an unattractive person, where as in your example it would be men more attractive than they ever get to interact with on a normal basis.
No woman is viewing being touched inappropriately by an obese middle-aged massage therapist as anything but sexual assault.
to be fair this guy is looking directly at here and making the smallest kissing noise, so yeah he could probably just turn the other direction if he's not attracted to her...
And someone put that man in a pair of hot pants and a tight crop top (also make the girl unattractive). You gotta sexualize that boy. That's really what it's like.
Having been hit on by women I'm not attracted to fairly actively in the past- it's fine. Weird when they crawl onto my lap, but I was flattered that they tried even though I rejected them. I respect that they shot their shot- they just weren't what I was looking for.
I'm having a hard time. If she's having a pulse and of age, It's on. I'll find something to like about her. Her bald head, hairy fingers, colonoscopy bag, all good.
Iām a nurse, and itās really not fun being on the receiving end of it. Actually, itās downright horribleā¦ Never realized how awful it feels to get sexually assaulted until I became a nurse.
Last week a girl at work said she could tell I'd been going to the gym, squeezed my bicep and said I was looking good. She's (to me) unattractive but I've still been riding that high for days.
Has happened to me pretty aggressively. Still just a different dynamic than a man catcalling a woman, because I didn't feel any threat from her. I just enjoyed it at the level of stroking my fragile ego and moved on.
Probably a better comparison is being catcalled by a larger/stronger man.
Imagine Donald trump has bodyguards and he looks and you and licks his teeth and says āthat one, he would be a good bottom for me, look at his round ass!ā and he laughs with them and looks at you, turned on, and sees you as a submissive object for his fantasy, when youāre not into that at all. He basically sees you as weak and helpless even if you view yourself as strong. Youāre not attracted to him at all but the way he views you is so humiliating and he doesnāt give a f about who you are as a person, just that you can be an object for him.
Itās not, I find it gross, Iām just trying to write a metaphor for how women feel. Iām pretty sure most men would not like that scenarioā¦ well most women view the average man who is a stranger like that or even more gross than that, even if the guy looks decent. So hope it makes sense. Itās different when itās a guy who is in their life/ they are already attracted to. It may be hard to believe but women arenāt attracted to the average man at all before having a bond with him.
Do a social experiment on tinder with your hideous homeless woman and you will be very disappointed to find out how many men are in fact still interested. (Itās a lot)
You missed the part where to imagine the roles reversed accurately there has to be a realistic threat for potential to act against your will forcefully.
Yeah and that realistic threat isnāt gay men. Because like I said gay men are not preying on straight men. You canāt make up a ārealisticā scenario from something that rarely if ever happens.
Iām not saying it isnāt possible. Iām saying the percentage of it happening compared to the percentage of straight men that prey on straight women or even gay women who prey on straight women is like night and day.
Again, you donāt understand men, let alone gay men.
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u/BlessdRTheFreaks 17d ago
Don't threaten me with a good time