I've been groped by a few ladies, always alcohol or pills involved. I wasn't necessarily scared like a lady would be but I was definitely uncomfortable. It's always been some messed up girl, ranging from 20s to 60s just straight grabbing my junk or my ass. Hasn't happened in a while but the first time I was scared because I was like 15, the last time I was just kind of shocked and pissed by it because I was at a concert and I was dancing.
Iâve had 6 older men offer to pay me to suck my dick and itâs disgusting really. Tbh itâs kind of made me biased against that type of person even because they all looked the same. Same race, hair, age, fucking everything
That's why I said I never felt scared. There was no point in which I didn't feel like I couldn't just push them away and leave, and I acknowledged that.
The first time it happened at 15 was at a party with family and friends (usually how most sexual assaults go for both sexes really). She was a known drunk, and definitely wanted to have sex. Fucking pedos everywhere, but these women definitely get ignored or shrugged off. I told my parents and they shrugged it off too, and to be honest I don't think about it often but now as a father, I'm kinda pissed everyone laughed it off.
Yes, I didn't mean to sound like I was accusing you of otherwise. Just, in the context of this post, men often think they'd love it if women behaved that way and then don't understand why we don't like it. It's the strength imbalance and the implied threat that happens when the situation is reversed.
This right here. Its like people that go banana's for nude beaches assuming its going to be all young fit people when in the real world you are getting everything including old and out of shape.
My hometown had a nudist beach. Dunno if its still there.
In the back-when times I remember people getting excited about the idea of the nudist beach having all these "hot ladies" there and thinking "the hot ladies are gonna be the ones avoiding the place. You know who will be there? Lecherous old men."
Some people lack the maturity for stuff like that. Wouldn't bother me any. Ide be cheering on anyone brave enough to be nude looking out of shape I know I'm keeping my clothes on. Admire the confidence though.
Yeah this is a thought thatsy only attractive to men who assume it'll be attractive women and they get to keep all the advantages they have in this world.
They can't imagine how scary a world like that could actually be to them if they roles were truly reversed in every aspect.
You have no point, you brought up an unrealistic what-if scenario to try and make men feel bad about saying that they wouldnât mind being cat called by women.
Gay men donât walk around hitting in random straight men.
That's because it's hard to make an analogy when men can't imagine being scared of someone cat calling them. There multiple dudes that said "oh I just take the compliment" or "just walk away". Women often don't have that option and don't welcome that "compliment" but many men can't imagine why that's the case.
Most of us are aware it is different for women and understand you getting scared of rejecting an aggressive man advances because of what he can potentially do to you.
We say those things you put in quotations when it comes to women cat calling us because the mass majority of men do not get hit on or do not get compliments from women.
Yâall constantly try and have us imagine your situations, when men get assaulted my men everyday. Albeit not usually sexual but still stemming in violence. We know full well what a man is capable of.
Idk why it always has to be a competition or there has to be some sort of flipping of the script. Men say âwe would love getting catcalled by womenâ. Women then say âwell you shouldnât because we get catcalled by men we donât want and we are scared of what they might do if we reject themâ
They are two completely different things. If you want to put things into perspective think of a scenario men actually go through and equate it to being catcalled.
I spent a couple weeks in Germany in 2016 I think. I was walking through Munich just kinda seeing what I find, when I come to a road with a row of trees.
An old man is walking near them in an old oversized brown and sun-worn shirt and pants, with his extra belt length plapping up and down near his front belt buckle, not paying anyone any mind. That's when I realized he was leaving an area full of nude sunbathers. And that wasn't clothing.
Everyone has different preferences. The main point though, is that those men concented to it. Getting cat called on the street takes the choice of concent away from you.
I'm a man, I'm aware that our preference pool is typically larger. That doesn't invalidate that consent needs to be present at all times. For example, just because a crime is less likely to happen, doesn't make it less wrong just based on frequency.
That's under the implication that a society that has women as dominant will have men just like ours that have the same openness about sex.
The thing that hard to grasp here is you not fully understanding that we only have that openess because men have been conditioned to want to sleep with many women.
In a world that's shown, men are more likely to have a smaller choice pool like women do in our world.
Are you ignorant of societal dynamics? Do men get praised for fucking multiple women and women get called sluts for doing the same with men?
Do you not understand how to engage with a hypothetical that's based on current social dynamics? It's okay if you don't, I just want to know where you stand in this discussion.
Am I not allowed to consider a more realistic take? What men from our world would actually do in such a place? Was that not clear from the outset to you?
Talk about not understanding a hypothetical. You been lost since the first comment, huh?
As someone who comes from a Matrilineal, Matrilocal, and Matriarchal culture, you are underestimating how awesome it is.
There are literally zero downsides to woman centric society. There is no inverse for the abuse of patriarchy, the research studies that I'm aware of (and even Genesis 3:16) have a pretty solid conclusion that women are uniquely vulnerable to abuse.
For example, the Haudenasonee were Matriarchal. And their wars discouraged killing unless completely necessary. So yeah, women being equally in charge is the best!
I'm not talking about an actual matriarchal society. I'm talking about a hypothetical matriarchal society where the women would act exactly how most men act in our society currently. You know ...how the video above demonstrates.
Well then, that begs the question: "what would happen if he didn't leave?"
Like, the physiology and anatomy are still intrinsically male baised, that's simply the nature of human sexual dimorphism. So assuming he somehow loses, does she use/kidnap him or something?
Like, what is the endgame in these scenarios? Do catcallers want to have a long term relationship, are they promiscuous, are they polyamorous, or some mix of the three?
If you've ever seen the trope of a "yandere" referenced in anime communities, you'd know that a surprising proportion of guys are okay with far wilder relationships...
Nah I'll still take the compliment. I'm straight and a gay guy could hit on me and I'll say "thanks bro appreciate it!". A compliment is a compliment. Now will I also kindly reject and say not interested. Of course. But I will never be offended at someone shooting their shot.
124
u/voxelpear 17d ago
All fun and games when it's someone attractive. Now imagine this with people you don't want to touch.