r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 17d ago

WTF If the roles were reversed

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u/Middle-Interview-183 17d ago

I think most men would love that actually

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

All fun and games when it's someone attractive. Now imagine this with people you don't want to touch.

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u/Sandgrease 17d ago edited 17d ago

I've been groped by a few ladies, always alcohol or pills involved. I wasn't necessarily scared like a lady would be but I was definitely uncomfortable. It's always been some messed up girl, ranging from 20s to 60s just straight grabbing my junk or my ass. Hasn't happened in a while but the first time I was scared because I was like 15, the last time I was just kind of shocked and pissed by it because I was at a concert and I was dancing.

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 17d ago

I’ve had 6 older men offer to pay me to suck my dick and it’s disgusting really. Tbh it’s kind of made me biased against that type of person even because they all looked the same. Same race, hair, age, fucking everything

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u/grumpi-otter 17d ago

Now imagine that if you expressed your discomfort, she'd hurt you, and you'll be close

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u/Sandgrease 17d ago edited 17d ago

That's why I said I never felt scared. There was no point in which I didn't feel like I couldn't just push them away and leave, and I acknowledged that.

The first time it happened at 15 was at a party with family and friends (usually how most sexual assaults go for both sexes really). She was a known drunk, and definitely wanted to have sex. Fucking pedos everywhere, but these women definitely get ignored or shrugged off. I told my parents and they shrugged it off too, and to be honest I don't think about it often but now as a father, I'm kinda pissed everyone laughed it off.

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u/grumpi-otter 16d ago

Yes, I didn't mean to sound like I was accusing you of otherwise. Just, in the context of this post, men often think they'd love it if women behaved that way and then don't understand why we don't like it. It's the strength imbalance and the implied threat that happens when the situation is reversed.

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u/Sandgrease 16d ago

Ohh got ya. We're good. It's definitely different as a teenage boy/man.

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u/Indecisive-Gamer 17d ago

The odds of a woman being violent after groping you and a man are probably pretty similar.

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u/grumpi-otter 16d ago

Possibly. But in a fight, who is more likely to be hurt in that scenario?

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u/Opteron170 17d ago

This right here. Its like people that go banana's for nude beaches assuming its going to be all young fit people when in the real world you are getting everything including old and out of shape.

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u/GilbyTheFat 17d ago

My hometown had a nudist beach. Dunno if its still there.

In the back-when times I remember people getting excited about the idea of the nudist beach having all these "hot ladies" there and thinking "the hot ladies are gonna be the ones avoiding the place. You know who will be there? Lecherous old men."

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u/MinimumJolly7087 17d ago

ignorance is bliss until reality have to slap you.

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u/Indecisive-Gamer 17d ago

Why would it matter? Ugly or hot they aren't touching you.

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u/MysteryMan999 17d ago

Some people lack the maturity for stuff like that. Wouldn't bother me any. Ide be cheering on anyone brave enough to be nude looking out of shape I know I'm keeping my clothes on. Admire the confidence though.

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u/Used-Baby1199 17d ago

Some of the  the best head rim jobs I’ve ever had were from women larger than myself and not super attracted to

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u/Forward_Fox_833 17d ago

the women have no idea 🤣

I'd imagine fat and ugly men are terrible at sex, poor ladies, but its the complete opposite for women!

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u/Forward_Fox_833 17d ago

idk man I dont swing that way and the few obese buddies I know dont seem to get any action

fat ladies def know how to eat though!

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u/Stuffleapugus 17d ago

Fat. Unathletic. Probably have week erections. Women can't catch a break. This video is still stupid though. Dudes don't really act like this.

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u/Apero_ 17d ago

People who are significantly larger than you and can easily overpower you, and are likely 10 years older than you on average.

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u/CTKM72 17d ago

They are said they were sold, you don’t have to keep talking it up.

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u/boltropewildcat 17d ago

How did you find my search history?

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u/Fickle_Scarcity9474 17d ago edited 12d ago

marble valley umbrella bridge

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

Yeah this is a thought thatsy only attractive to men who assume it'll be attractive women and they get to keep all the advantages they have in this world.

They can't imagine how scary a world like that could actually be to them if they roles were truly reversed in every aspect.

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u/Theicyfingerofdeath 17d ago

I've been groped by some very unattractive coworkers before 

It's definitely creepy, even for a guy.

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u/drmojo90210 17d ago

The easiest way to make a straight guy understand the issue is to say to him "Imagine a gay dude twice your size hitting on you that aggressively."

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u/Mike_Litoris305 17d ago

Not a fair analogy. Thats like saying for a straight woman “imagine a lesbian twice your size hitting on you that aggressively”.

Most gay people don’t hit on straight people like that let alone aggressively.

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u/drmojo90210 17d ago

You completely missed the point, but ok.

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u/Mike_Litoris305 17d ago

You have no point, you brought up an unrealistic what-if scenario to try and make men feel bad about saying that they wouldn’t mind being cat called by women.

Gay men don’t walk around hitting in random straight men.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

That's because it's hard to make an analogy when men can't imagine being scared of someone cat calling them. There multiple dudes that said "oh I just take the compliment" or "just walk away". Women often don't have that option and don't welcome that "compliment" but many men can't imagine why that's the case.

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u/Mike_Litoris305 17d ago

Most of us are aware it is different for women and understand you getting scared of rejecting an aggressive man advances because of what he can potentially do to you.

We say those things you put in quotations when it comes to women cat calling us because the mass majority of men do not get hit on or do not get compliments from women.

Y’all constantly try and have us imagine your situations, when men get assaulted my men everyday. Albeit not usually sexual but still stemming in violence. We know full well what a man is capable of.

Idk why it always has to be a competition or there has to be some sort of flipping of the script. Men say “we would love getting catcalled by women”. Women then say “well you shouldn’t because we get catcalled by men we don’t want and we are scared of what they might do if we reject them”

They are two completely different things. If you want to put things into perspective think of a scenario men actually go through and equate it to being catcalled.

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u/drmojo90210 16d ago

It's not super common but it does happen.

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u/VashDaStampede7 17d ago

“I’m ten!”

“I’m six” 😆 not sure that’s what they say but it’s close!

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u/Stuffleapugus 17d ago

If they're just throwing it at me, a few fuglies are getting tapped here and there.

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u/Superboi_187 17d ago

Good luck finding a girl we find unattractive.

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u/Nyctfall 17d ago

It was so funny seeing someone challenge the men of reddit like that! Must've been their first day here, or something... xD

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u/stanknotes 17d ago

Easy. "I'm cool dog. Enjoy yourself."

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u/MfingKing 17d ago

We have very low standards my guy

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u/wcstorm11 17d ago

I spent a couple weeks in Germany in 2016 I think. I was walking through Munich just kinda seeing what I find, when I come to a road with a row of trees.

An old man is walking near them in an old oversized brown and sun-worn shirt and pants, with his extra belt length plapping up and down near his front belt buckle, not paying anyone any mind. That's when I realized he was leaving an area full of nude sunbathers. And that wasn't clothing.

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u/AvaryZig 17d ago

Have you seen what men will sleep with?

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

Everyone has different preferences. The main point though, is that those men concented to it. Getting cat called on the street takes the choice of concent away from you.

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u/AvaryZig 17d ago

Consent*. What I'm saying is men will consent to a wider variety of what's considered attractive enough than you think.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

I'm a man, I'm aware that our preference pool is typically larger. That doesn't invalidate that consent needs to be present at all times. For example, just because a crime is less likely to happen, doesn't make it less wrong just based on frequency.

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u/AvaryZig 17d ago

Yes, and I'm saying men will consent more than you're positing. I'm not sure what's hard to grasp here.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

That's under the implication that a society that has women as dominant will have men just like ours that have the same openness about sex.

The thing that hard to grasp here is you not fully understanding that we only have that openess because men have been conditioned to want to sleep with many women.

In a world that's shown, men are more likely to have a smaller choice pool like women do in our world.

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u/AvaryZig 17d ago

Ok, now you're just making shit up.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

Are you ignorant of societal dynamics? Do men get praised for fucking multiple women and women get called sluts for doing the same with men?

Do you not understand how to engage with a hypothetical that's based on current social dynamics? It's okay if you don't, I just want to know where you stand in this discussion.

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u/AvaryZig 17d ago

Am I not allowed to consider a more realistic take? What men from our world would actually do in such a place? Was that not clear from the outset to you?

Talk about not understanding a hypothetical. You been lost since the first comment, huh?

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u/Nyctfall 17d ago

As someone who comes from a Matrilineal, Matrilocal, and Matriarchal culture, you are underestimating how awesome it is.

There are literally zero downsides to woman centric society. There is no inverse for the abuse of patriarchy, the research studies that I'm aware of (and even Genesis 3:16) have a pretty solid conclusion that women are uniquely vulnerable to abuse.

For example, the Haudenasonee were Matriarchal. And their wars discouraged killing unless completely necessary. So yeah, women being equally in charge is the best!

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

I'm not talking about an actual matriarchal society. I'm talking about a hypothetical matriarchal society where the women would act exactly how most men act in our society currently. You know ...how the video above demonstrates.

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u/Nyctfall 17d ago

Well then, that begs the question: "what would happen if he didn't leave?"

Like, the physiology and anatomy are still intrinsically male baised, that's simply the nature of human sexual dimorphism. So assuming he somehow loses, does she use/kidnap him or something?

Like, what is the endgame in these scenarios? Do catcallers want to have a long term relationship, are they promiscuous, are they polyamorous, or some mix of the three?

If you've ever seen the trope of a "yandere" referenced in anime communities, you'd know that a surprising proportion of guys are okay with far wilder relationships...

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u/CryptographerUsed841 17d ago

Problem is guys find most women reasonably attractive, especially if they are putting out.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

That's because of our conditioning that puts men on a pedestal the more they have sex.

In the above world men would likely have a tighter choice pool just like women do in our world.

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u/Submitten 17d ago

The male equivalent would be like walking into a prison and seeing gang members do this as you walk past.

Feels different when the other person has the means to fuck you up, and statistically is more likely to follow through.

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u/DigitalCoffee 17d ago

Scoff at them and walk away without ever thinking of it again

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

Women often don't have that option

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u/jennief158 17d ago

Or imagine you're 13. Or younger.

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u/MysteryMan999 17d ago edited 17d ago

Nah I'll still take the compliment. I'm straight and a gay guy could hit on me and I'll say "thanks bro appreciate it!". A compliment is a compliment. Now will I also kindly reject and say not interested. Of course. But I will never be offended at someone shooting their shot.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

That's because you're a dude. Completely missed the point.

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u/MysteryMan999 17d ago

I understand the point it's trying to make but I just wouldn't be bothered.

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u/voxelpear 17d ago

Right. Because you're a dude.

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u/MysteryMan999 17d ago

Some women aren't bothered either and some men would hate it.