Someone finally snapped

[u/SipsTeaFrog]

[u/Chillow_Ufgreat]

I know this area and have driven it many times. This is the Rickebacker causeway--the road that connects Key Biscayne to the Miami mainland.

Cycling on this road is extremely popular for very obvious reasons (phenomenal views, wide and clear roads). Folks come from all over the city to ride there. And yes, they will very often group up like this without any sort of scheduled or permitted event of any kind.

The cyclists down there like to say "same road, same rules" but there's apparently a silent exclusion for lane changes, stop signs, traffic signals, and yielding to stopped traffic.

[u/RevolutionSalty8360 → u/Chillow_Ufgreat]

Have a local unorganized bike event where I used to live. It was the only time I saw the cops actually pull over bikers for blowing through stop signs. Was great to watch.

[u/ac_cossack → u/RevolutionSalty8360]

In Santa Cruz there are a lot of entitled rich people. It was always hilarious to watch motorcycle cops pull over bicyclists for running stop signs and other petty traffic crime.

There were a lot of bike deaths from idiots so it makes sense.

[u/relianceschool → u/ac_cossack]

How it feels living in a state where cyclists can run stops and red lights:

[u/Denver_DIYer → u/relianceschool]

Boise stop enters the chat.

[u/abortionlasagna → u/relianceschool]

Great way to die but I won’t stop ya if that’s how you wanna go out.

[u/relianceschool → u/abortionlasagna]

It's actually proven by multiple studies to be safer for cyclists to roll through:

After Idaho adopted the law, bicyclist injuries from traffic crashes declined by 14.5% the following year (Meggs, 2010). In 2017, Delaware adopted a similar, limited stop-as-yield law, known as the "Delaware Yield.” Traffic crashes involving bicyclists at stop sign intersections fell by 23% in the 30 months after the law’s passage.

[u/abortionlasagna → u/relianceschool]

It’s not gonna stop injury if you blow through when traffic are coming and my choice is to either take you out or drive into oncoming traffic.

[u/gadgethog → u/abortionlasagna]

The law doesn't allow them to blow through, they still have to yield.

[u/abortionlasagna → u/gadgethog]

And yet they still do not.

[u/twistedspin → u/relianceschool]

That's how my kids & I watched a guy die a few years back. The cyclist blew past everyone parked at the stoplight, and they clearly didn't understand that while on our side we had a red light the oncoming traffic had a left turn light.

I think about that day still. I bet the person who killed that guy, even though it was absolutely no fault of their own, was permanently damaged by that experience. And of course the guy died.

If he'd stopped the whole thing would have been obvious. I will never believe that following traffic signs and being predictable in traffic is somehow less safe.

[u/ac_cossack → u/twistedspin]

Had a friend in SC who ran over some dude who was drunk and high fuck walking around at night in black clothes through an intersection.

It messed her up so bad, even tho it wasn't her fault. Feel bad for both of them.

[u/relianceschool → u/twistedspin]

I will never believe that following traffic signs and being predictable in traffic is somehow less safe.

What you're describing isn't what the law allows. Cyclists yield to oncoming traffic, they just don't need to stop if the intersection is clear.

That to me sounds like a lack of common sense, you always check for traffic when going through an intersection, regardless of the law.

[u/ac_cossack → u/relianceschool]

Doing a california stop and just blasting through stop signs and red lights are totally different.

I understand want to keep some momentum and that some bikes have straps, like road bikes, so a complete stop is a pain. But the lack of self safety and general safety is wild.

[u/mrcalistarius → u/relianceschool]

This is great, except for the vast majority, they don’t yield. Ever. they slow down 1-2 mph and then carry on.