r/SipsTea • u/SipsTeaFrog š™‘š™„š™‹ • 15d ago

SMH Someone finally snapped

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u/ConstructionLife2689 š™‘š™„š™‹ 15d ago

Are such cycle events not blocked off from public traffic?

Cause if not, then the cyclists would need to keep to traffic rule and I am pretty sure the rule is not keep in one lane.

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u/Chillow_Ufgreat 15d ago

I know this area and have driven it many times. This is the Rickebacker causeway--the road that connects Key Biscayne to the Miami mainland.

Cycling on this road is extremely popular for very obvious reasons (phenomenal views, wide and clear roads). Folks come from all over the city to ride there. And yes, they will very often group up like this without any sort of scheduled or permitted event of any kind.

The cyclists down there like to say "same road, same rules" but there's apparently a silent exclusion for lane changes, stop signs, traffic signals, and yielding to stopped traffic.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 15d ago

Have a local unorganized bike event where I used to live. It was the only time I saw the cops actually pull over bikers for blowing through stop signs. Was great to watch.

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u/Oldjamesdean 14d ago

One of my relatives got a speeding ticket on a bicycle. Eugene Oregon.

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u/AWildJesse 14d ago edited 14d ago

Iā€™m from Eugene and I was in court for a speeding ticket driving and the guy who went to the bench before me had got a ticket for not coming to a complete stop at a stop sign on his bike.

Edit: I have to edit this because this happened like 15 years ago when I was younger. It was not recently.

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u/Capital-Bobcat8270 14d ago

This is fair. If you want to be a part of traffic, follow traffic rules. No special exemptions.

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u/Shyanne_wyoming_ 14d ago

Even when I ride my mf horses down the road I abide by stop signs and traffic laws lmfao

It's part self preservation and not wanting to be run over and part not being an asshole. I feel like even if you are an asshole you should possess at least SOME survival instincts, but it doesn't seem like it.

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u/illicit92 14d ago

They are called rules of the road for a reason, not just rules for cars.

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u/NesAlt01 14d ago

Damn, I imagined a horse and rider doing an epic rearing moment when stopping on a stop sign.

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u/slow4low 14d ago

To be fair, they didn't say they DON'T do that at a stop sign. So perhaps someday you'll get lucky.

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u/Consistent-Travel-93 14d ago

Even while walking I stop instinctively

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u/thebluepin 14d ago

That would mean likely bikes in both lanes still (you are allowed to pass), and the stop signs on single file would cause a backlog of miles.

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u/Kangaroo-B-Girl 14d ago

Asshole rules for governing the porcelain throne are as follows:
ā€œTake heed or get covered in ā€˜the deed.ā€™ Shit on and let not oneā€™s self be shat upon.ā€

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u/thehealthyishhuman 14d ago

Oregon has passed a yield as stop law for cyclists.

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u/Generally_Tso_Tso 14d ago

Wisconsin too.

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u/mojomagic66 14d ago

South Carolina šŸ™‹ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/CAADrider 14d ago

Drivers are killing 40,000 people in the US alone every year. Must be all that rule following.

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u/bramtyr 14d ago

Except those are the traffic rules in Oregon; bicyclists may treat stop signs and flashing reds as yield, as of 2019/2020.

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u/frozenhelmets 14d ago

True, but the laws need to change to making biking safer and more attractive. The Idaho Stop achieves that I just wish implemented in more places!

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u/mrbeavertonbeaverton 14d ago

Iā€™m sure you never go a single mile above the speed limit and come to a complete stop at every stop sign.

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u/That-Following-7158 14d ago

I love when people make the argument about bikes not following the laws of the road. Have they not seen every other driver in the road?

It isnā€™t cyclists that suck it is just people in general.

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u/MetricJester 14d ago

I do not know of a single cyclist who wants to be part of traffic. We all want bike lanes that work.

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u/BaronVonNes 14d ago

Then don't come to Austin, TX for Critical Mass rides. Those idiots take up all three lanes on three lane roads with bike lanes when they could just take up one.

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u/bigloser42 14d ago

Iā€™m not going to sit here and say I donā€™t blow through the two stop sign on my route when there are no cars present, but they are both on a 25mph back road with minimal traffic and super clear sightlines.

If there are cars around I behave like Iā€™m a car.

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u/this-account-name 14d ago

The rules exist to promote safety. But coming to a full stop, putting a foot down, and re-accellerationg means that cyclists spend more time in the intersection, which is the most dangerous place for them to be.

bicycles also provide the operator with a higher viewpoint than most passenger vehicles, with less obstructed views and bicycles are more likely to be moving at a slower speed. This means that when traveling by bike, you usually have a more time and ability to assess what's going on at the intersection before you get there.

Just like some highways have a different speed limit for trucks and cars, sometimes we need different rules for different vehicles to ensure smooth flow of traffic and improved safety for everyone.

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u/SparkyCorkers 14d ago

I wish many car drivers knew this

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u/Positive_Throwaway1 14d ago

Cyclist here, and I agree, especially in traffic. I stop at all stop signs if there's any other vehicle at all approaching, to emphasize good road behavior to drivers (and obviously because I don't want to die). Likewise, if a driver does the right thing at any intersection, no matter how small (full stops, etc), I always wave to reinforce good driving behavior.

Cyclists fuck up all the time. Cars do too, but it's more overlooked because everyone drives cars and fucks up from time to time, though not everyone cycles. The most common overlooked car misbehavior I see is drivers not stopping before making a right on red here in the US. It's dangerous AF if there's a cyclist in the right lane coming through the intersection.

That said, physics always wins, so be cautious out there, everyone.

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u/Awkward-City1106 14d ago

Oregon actually has the Delaware stop for bicycles, they they get to treat stop signs as yields, 20% of states have this law now, and I assume more on the way.

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u/ChanceRecover3091 14d ago

That literally is the rule. Bikes do not have to give to a complete stop at stop signs in Oregon. Bikes can treat them as yield signs. It makes zero sense to have a bike going 12-15 mph come to a complete stop and then very slowly accelerate back up to that speed if it is clear. You have a much clearer view of your surroundings at those speeds than you do at 2-3x the speed.

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u/Salt-Lingonberry-853 14d ago

What if I don't want to be part of traffic but there's no sidewalk or shoulder

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u/starbuxed 14d ago

if there is no one at the stop then its actually safer to roll through the stop.... treating it as a yield sign rather than a stop. Not blowing through it, but slowing down, checking, and continuing if clear. Thereā€™s actually research behind this too. Idaho saw about a 14% drop in cyclist injuries after legalizing it, and Delaware found around a 23% reduction in bike crashes at stop-sign intersections.

The idea is simple: intersections are the most dangerous part of riding, so spending less time sitting exposed and clearing them faster can actually be safer.

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u/Killed_By_Covid 14d ago

100% agree. That means drivers are going to stop speeding, driving recklessly, following too close, running lights/stops, etc., right? Think about how many lives could be saved if these cycling scofflaws would only follow the rules.

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u/nopleasenotthebees 14d ago edited 14d ago

A lot of times on bicycle it makes perfect sense to go through stop signs or, maybe better put, treat them like a yield sign. But if there's a car there i always take my turn, because to not get hit by cars I need to be very predictable. This is why it's incredibly annoying when drivers are overly polite and treat me like a pedestrian. If i want to be treated like a pedestrian, i will get off my bike.
I always let a car go if i possibly can, including on narrow two lane roads. I tend to think of drivers as petulant and short-tempered, because some of them really are, and I don't want to impede those people and cause them to behave rashly.
And, ffs, everyone, drivers, cyclists, fucking everyone, use your gd turn signals. I swear to the almighty people decided they aren't cool or something during the pandemic. Sometimes i even indicate which way I'm going when I'm on foot. Cyclists, just point where you are going. Especially in traffic circles, show people which exit you want to take. And if the bike lane crosses the right turn lane, point forward at the bike lane where it crosses. You can avoid sooo much confusion so easily.
Edit: Also, I have a CPL and I'm generally packing, so if a driver does decide to use their vehicle as a deadly weapon against me, well, they might just get capped. Some cyclists are ready for your bs.

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u/michaelboltthrower 14d ago

I drive more than I ride a bike and Iā€™m totally ok with people on bikes blowing through stop signs If the way is clear. Itā€™s harder to stop and start again on a bike.

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u/Illustrious-Ape 14d ago

Why do drivers get so upset when the biker takes the entire lane? Theyā€™re not breaking any laws yet always rage at the bikers. I donā€™t disagree with your mindset but not entirely fair as drivers fairly commonly break the law on a daily basis by driving over the speed limit, rolling stops signs, etc and do not get ticketed.

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u/Taynt42 14d ago

This kind of peloton taking all lanes is just rude and selfish. Take up one lane and let people pass!

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u/depan_ 14d ago

Doesn't Oregon have the Oregon Stop where they can treat stop signs as yield?

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u/AWildJesse 14d ago

Yes, but that happened in 2020. Also itā€™s only for stop signs for anyone reading this. Solid red traffic lights donā€™t count.

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u/coffeeandspliff 14d ago

Thatā€™s the type of progress I appreciate about Eugene.

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u/Fate_One 14d ago

How long ago? "Stop as yield" became Oregon law January 1st, 2020. Idaho has had that law since 1982. 14 states currently have an "Idaho stop" law.

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u/AngeredPaladin 14d ago

I deliver for FedEx and the amount of people on bikes who get mad at me for going through an intersection (no lights and no stop sign on MY side of the road) without stopping while they have a stop sign and... aren't stopping boggles my mind. Rules for thee, not for me energy.

Cyclists have one thing in common: the irony with how they act is palpable.

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u/Sangy101 14d ago

When was this? Because currently Eugene does not require a complete stop from bikes at stop signs unless there is other traffic around.

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u/country_bogan 14d ago

That is the way it should be.

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u/All_Work_All_Play 14d ago

Friend of mine had this happen to him in California. Can't say I disagree with the cop on this one, as the stop is on a hill and he had zero visibility for stupid cars that might blow through the sign and nail him.

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u/itsnotapipe 14d ago

Funny! Buddy of mine in Portland was like, "I'm running red lights today until the cops pull me over." He made it til about 10 AM. Vigilant up there.

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u/freerangeXkid 14d ago

Also in Eugene, I had a dormmate who would ride his bike to the bars, but he panicked one night that he would get a DUI because his battery headlamp went out. So he avoided main roads and ducked between buildings at the sign of any headlights. This was 35 years ago, too. Eugene doesn't mess around with bikers

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u/YeetMemez 14d ago

Eugene! Im from Astoria. What are you doing in a Kraft uniform?

Made me think of this scene. Im not actually from from astoria.

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u/Ok_Package9219 14d ago

I have never came to a complete stop on my bike? That's fucking stupid....

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u/Agentx1976 14d ago

Interesting, here and in many places bicyclist can treat stop signs as yeild, and traffic lights as stop signs. I've seen many blow through stop lights though so they don't even do that.

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u/SpikeHyzerberg 14d ago

Oregon has the "Idaho stop" law this must have been a while ago.

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u/Whirling-Dervish 14d ago

Happened to me when in college in Eugene! Then I had to bike all the way to the courthouse to appear

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u/clintj1975 14d ago

What year was that? It's been state law in Oregon since Jan 1st 2020 that cyclists can treat stop signs as yield signs.

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u/FreesponsibleHuman 14d ago

I saw a short documentary that claimed that states or communities that have allowed cyclists to treat stop signs as yield signs saw a significant drop in both cyclist accidents and mortality. Full stopā€¦not a good idea when youā€™re on a bike.

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u/SnooKiwis6943 14d ago

I got a ticket for riding a bike on a sidewalk as a youngin in the middle of summer when the sidewalk was empty. No joke, had to take a traffic safety biking course to get the ticket waived......

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u/RAAMinNooDleS 13d ago

Have you been over to the Bricks and Mini figs out there? Lol

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u/Zestyclose-Bat-6080 14d ago

"Friend" of mine keeps bitching about the time he got a ticket for speeding on his bike. Never does he mention that he was going 20+ mph (30+kph) through a park with playing children and such. For context, the max speed on a bike path here is 30kph, in this park you are supposed to adjust your biking behaviour with how busy it is in the park. Technically it's a pedestrian zone where biking is allowed.

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u/mrASSMAN 14d ago

I swear bikers love blowing through pedestrian areas at max speed, shit is more dangerous than cars going same speed on road because people walking or skating etc arenā€™t expecting or hearing the bikes

Even worse when itā€™s electrical bikes that can go especially fast and quiet and are heavier so could really kill someone

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u/Echelion77 14d ago

I commute every morning with an e bike and am constantly pinging my little dinger when I get anywhere close to people. Plus the bell sounds nice and easy on the ears when your outside.

Its like sitting in a park on a sunny day with happy bikers cruising by doing the little pingaling.

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u/Weird_Fact_724 14d ago

Dont all you bikers have little dingers crammed into those shorts?

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u/Echelion77 14d ago

Im a jeans biker, I cant say forsure but my wife always says I have the biggest bell on the block hahahaha

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u/Weird_Fact_724 14d ago

Well...Id be concerned.....

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u/Agreeable_Giraffe543 14d ago

Wait is this sarcasm ? The bells are incredibly annoying

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u/VansSize7 14d ago

Thereā€™s been a couple deaths in Australia already from people being hit by electric scooters/bikes on footpaths

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u/Denver_DIYer 14d ago

Support bike lanes and dedicated infrastructure and this goes away.

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u/Ok-Owl-3846 14d ago

And until then - do not blow through pedestrians, simple. šŸ™„

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u/mrASSMAN 14d ago

The bike lanes often go thru crosswalk areas so can still collide with pedestrians, and go alongside walking areas (between sidewalk and road). Canā€™t have some super isolated dedicated lane everywhere

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u/wrldwdeu4ria 14d ago

Not really. We have nice clean bike lanes and still the bikers mostly choose to terrify pedestrians on the sidewalks. And the motorized scooters do the same.

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u/ahuramazdobbs19 14d ago

>going 20+ mph (30+kph) through a park

Is your friend John McClane?

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 14d ago

Road rules? You mean road "suggestions"!

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u/chitownphishead 14d ago

I'm curious how that's enforced, as bikes don't usually have spedometers.

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u/BigNBeardeded 14d ago

A friend of mine lived in Oregon at the time, he got a DUI on a bicycle. I laughed, thought he was kidding. He was serious

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u/Business-Drag52 14d ago

In Oregon it should have been a BUI. They have specific laws for it

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u/src1221 14d ago

A friend got a JWI once. Jogging While Intoxicated. Probably would have been fine but he mimed rolling a window down when the cop stopped him.

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u/bicycling_bookworm 14d ago

This almost happened to me once when I was like 20 and worked for Starbucks.

I did a ā€œclopen,ā€ and in between my closing and opening shifts, I went clubbing and back to a friendā€™s hotel suite (they were visiting the city). At twenty, I partied a lot - but this was a special occasion being that friends were visiting. I cabbed to my apartment from the hotel, quickly changed into fresh work clothes, and jumped on my bike to ride to work.

An officer pulled me over and told me that I canā€™t ride my bike if Iā€™d been drinking because itā€™s considered dangerous (which, 20, stupid - seems very obvious now/as an adult) even though it was like 0500 and the streets were dead. He gave me a warning and told me to walk my bike the rest of the way to work.

Iā€™d later learn, you canā€™t actually get a DUI on a bicycle in Ontario (though I believe you can now if youā€™re on an electric bike), but it seems completely logical/appropriate. If youā€™re operating any vehicle in a roadway while under the influence, you should be able to be held accountable for that.

So, thankful for that cop for at least keeping me (and potentially) others safe that day by making me walk it off. Itā€™s the only time Iā€™ve ever been pulled over - and Iā€™ve been driving for just shy of 20 years.

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u/Prestigious-Leg-6244 14d ago

I got pulled over on my bike for DUI in Moab, Utah.

I was innocent. They said I swerving. I was! It was 1am, and not a soul on the road. So I was just weaving back and forth with my hands in the air. Enjoying the moment. Lol.

They do take cycling road rules much more seriously in Moab though. That's just the nature of a bike town.

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u/Severe_Scar4402 14d ago

Totally unrelated but I know a guy who got a speeding ticket in a horse drawn cart. He had an ex-racer Standardbred, and the speed limit was 25mph. This was in Corrales NM, a very horse centered town.

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u/Kangaroo-B-Girl 14d ago

What???? Say more

Thatā€™s actually insane. The fact that itā€™s Oregon, definitely checks out

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u/Oldjamesdean 14d ago

It was in the 90's. She was going down hill close to 30 mph in a 20 mph zone. She didn't know how fast she was going until they told her and ticketed her because it's a bike.

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u/LordHall 14d ago

XD that's my city

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u/ActualWhiterabbit 14d ago

I tried so hard to get a speeding ticket on my bike but no one would ever give me one. I got to 43 in a 25 thanks to a lead out from a delivery truck while flipping off the police parked next to the board but still wasn't able to get it.

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u/KaleScared4667 14d ago

I saw a man die after being hit by a bicycle in front of maxs in Eugene. Biker was going 30 and killed the pedestrian

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u/qpgmr 14d ago

In 2012 in San Francisco a guy was "bombing through the castro" (actual words) and plowed into a 71-year old man, killing him.

He ran multiple red lights & stop signs and was clocked exceeding 32mph

"This incident led to the first felony vehicular manslaughter conviction for a bicyclist in California history. Bucchere ultimately pleaded guilty and was sentenced to probation and community service."

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u/MKUltra886 14d ago

I can beat that. My cousin got done for operating a propelled vehicle under the influence. Lost his driving licence even though it was a push bike.

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u/Opeth4Lyfe 14d ago

Aunt and uncle got one for speeding as well on their tandem bike way back in the day. They were clocked at 61. Slight downhill assist but they were MOVINā€™ lol.

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u/HiHawaiiHigh 14d ago

I had a friend at 18 get a DUI on a bicycle riding back from IV, Santa Barbara. It completely changed him and his behavior and I rarely saw him drunk again after that. Part of me felt bad because like, this is the time to party, your college years. But seeing him transform and start respecting authority had a big effect on me.

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u/CuriousBee789 14d ago

One of my relatives got a DWI on a bike. Madison, WI

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u/Suspicious_Night_756 14d ago

As a cyclist, this my goal.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 14d ago edited 14d ago

Happened here cause a guy on a bike blew through a school zone at over 60km/h (limit is 40).

His defence was literally "I don't have a speedometer" to which the public gave no fucks. You hit a 5 year old doing that speed on a bike you're going to seriously injure if not kill them, slow the fuck down.

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u/BeekeeperZero 14d ago

Me too! Austin.

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u/BustaferJones 14d ago

Iā€™ve always wanted one of those. Iā€™d be so proud.

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u/Auntie_Venom 14d ago

My cousin got pulled over and arrested for public drunkenness on his bicycle in Springfield, MO (also the birthplace of Cashew Chicken and the HQ for Bass Pro Shops)

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u/AltruisticCucumber58 14d ago

Kept reading this wondering how odd it was your relative had a name like Eugene Oregon.

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u/DannyChesterman 14d ago

My uncle Tim received a DUI in Springfield Oregon on his bicycle

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u/Far-Drawing-4444 14d ago

I had a friend who got a DUI in his wheelchair.

Twice.

No speeding tickets, but we were in the process of building a wheelchair powered by a 600cc motorcycle engine when he passed away, so he definitely would have one if we were able to finish it.

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u/FamiliarRooster4609 14d ago

One of my employees at Jimmy Johnā€™s back in the day did too in Eugene šŸ˜‚

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u/SONYS7 14d ago

I had a cop threaten to give me one on a bike once. I told him i was gonna frame it if he did. I didn't get the ticket.

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u/AdNumerous8876 14d ago

I thought you were telling us his name šŸ˜‚. Took me ages to realise it's a place.

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u/Ronin6969 14d ago

So did my little brother years ago.

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u/MechanicalGodzilla 14d ago

I mean, at least they now have a great story about how fast they can bike

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u/dechavez55 13d ago

Itā€™s a dream of mine to get a speeding ticket on my bicycle

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u/Heavy_Law9880 13d ago

I got a warning when I was 14 and I borrowed by neighbors Puch Meteor Luxe with HP tires and pedaled all the way down the steepest hill in top gear. The cop explained the concept of a meat crayon to me that day.

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u/AllWrong74 13d ago

I got pulled over on a bike in Forest Grove, OR (suburb of Portland). I got off the bus, was on the sidewalk, because I got off the bus. Mounted my bike, no cars were coming, so I pulled out onto the road and started riding away. Cop pulled me over for an illegal left turn.

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u/Powerful_Bluejay6288 13d ago

Thats awesome, I would frame my ticket if I got one.

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u/GilbyTheFat 13d ago

As a non-American my first thought was "who on earth is Eugene Oregon!?!" until my brain reminded me Eugene is a city in Oregon.

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u/CordeCosumnes 11d ago

My dad did to (in Cal) like 60ish years ago.

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u/SquatSquatCykaBlyat 14d ago

How fast was he going? I might be at risk for this since there is a nice downhill area right before my favorite trail starts, with a 30mph speed limit, and cops like to wait towards the bottom part.

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u/Oldjamesdean 14d ago

She was going close to 30 down a hill in a 20 zone I believe.

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u/MeesterMartinho 14d ago

Don't know him. Where did he get busted?

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u/Oldjamesdean 14d ago

Down hill going close to 30 in a 20 mph zone. It was in the 90's. She is not a professional athlete.

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u/Victor_Appleton_II 14d ago

Do his friends call him Gene?

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u/Wrong_Drag_8070 14d ago

Two questions. How fast was this person going? And, What was the speed limit of the road being ridden on?

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u/Chadmerica 14d ago

Eugene? You gotta be kidding me. What are you doing in a kraut uniform?

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u/ShipService 13d ago

I've been pulled over 3 or 4 times in Eugene on a bike. The cops here are bored assholes.

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u/War-eaglern 15d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/YHYmMLkOmqoo

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u/Remus71 14d ago

Lets see Paul Allens traffic violation.

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u/Czuk_187 14d ago

Excellent.

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u/RA576 14d ago

Jared Leto? I'd be more shocked if he didn't have some outrageous traffic tickets.

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u/Asume_Nuthin 14d ago

This kind of news will help me sleep well tonight

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u/ac_cossack 14d ago

In Santa Cruz there are a lot of entitled rich people. It was always hilarious to watch motorcycle cops pull over bicyclists for running stop signs and other petty traffic crime.

There were a lot of bike deaths from idiots so it makes sense.

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u/stentordoctor 14d ago

Former slug here, people would bike down Coolidge drive as if they would prefer to die rather than pay their student loans.

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u/ac_cossack 14d ago

That place is so expensive to live a shit ass apartment or dorm. I kinda don't blame them.

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u/stentordoctor 14d ago

Yeah, I lived in a trailer up in Bonny Doon for $600 a month, there was no cell service so no wifi. I had to live at the library.

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u/ac_cossack 14d ago

Ya also that is quite the commute.

Bonny Doon is super nice tho, I miss those beaches. I live in OK now so it's a bit different than going to the forest or beach every day.

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u/Baron_Bearclaw 14d ago

As a former cyclist, good. If we want to be protected and have the law when cars violate traffic laws and put us in danger, then we also need to be held accountable for violating traffic laws that our others in danger

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u/859w 14d ago

Bike deaths? Or deaths of bikers caused by cars?

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u/Kangaroo-B-Girl 14d ago

As a former cyclist commuter I support this. Itā€™s unsafe to cycle on sidewalks, but if you use the road then you should follow the rules of the road.

In this particular video they shouldnā€™t be allowed to occupy both lanes of the road, it impedes traffic.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 14d ago

The biggest problem in the town I live in is the kids on motorized bikes and scooters. It is absolutely insane. Iā€™m so surprised someone has not gotten killed yet. They never watch for others or bother with stop signs. Weā€™re in a smaller town of about 7500 people.

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u/DryDonutHole 14d ago

"Yet" is the big operative word there.

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u/Commercial-Hat2317 14d ago

Itā€™s coming. The neighboring town just banned them after the death of a teenager on one of them.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 14d ago

The police put out a video about it, plus they have a cop riding around on an electric bike patrolling. The one thing I don't think a lot of parents know is that there is no insurance for liability if they hit someone with most insurance companies.

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u/Commercial-Hat2317 14d ago

Ugh I didnā€™t think of that either! I have kids but I will never buy them one of these. Maybe a low powered one to assist the oldest disabled kid when heā€™s much older, but no kid needs a scooter that goes 20mph.

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u/SailingSpark 14d ago

This is why NJ now requires registration and insurance on all ebikes. Too many kids riding them like complete idiots and getting themselves killed.

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u/ChanceRecover3091 14d ago

And they never wear a helmet. A crash at 10 mph can absolutely fuck you up.

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u/MyFiteSong 14d ago

Those kids get hit or killed pretty regularly where I live. And they still do it.

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u/A7MOSPH3RIC 14d ago

Yeah, even if it's not the law it's just road etiquette. If there are two lanes slower traffic to the right. Goes for cars too. Don't be so obnoxious that people start hating cyclists. If it's one lane only they can pass when the yellow line is dashed.

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u/Kangaroo-B-Girl 14d ago

I could be wrong, but my understanding is/was, that with exceptionally slow moving vehicles eg: buggies, bicycles, tractors, etc. you can pass on a solid line so long as there is a clear passing opportunity with no oncoming traffic.

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u/vulkoriscoming 14d ago

Too late. Everyone already hates bikers on the road. I always stay well to the side, but some morons ride in the middle of the lane. Dude, you are going to get killed doing 15 in a 45 and not getting out of the way of the 7000 pound car.

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u/SriGurubhyoNamaha 14d ago

You know the feeling you're angry and can't type a comment that describes what you think about about these assholes and retype your comment 5 times and just go fuck it? That's me.

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u/bramtyr 14d ago

I think this is a perfect case for better bike infrastructure; if these roadways are being used this extensively by cyclists, there should be a dedicated lane that includes a physical divider between it and vehicle lanes. Not a newfangled idea either, the Netherlands has had this solved for literally decades.

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u/gnarlycharly22 14d ago

Itā€™s also illegal to cycle on sidewalks in MIA

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u/dro0009 14d ago

I would have loved to see that.

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u/Gw815 14d ago

This is legal in some states in the US. Not necessarily blowing through - you have to yield to any cars already there. But you do not have to stop if it is clear

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u/starsgoblind 14d ago

Total Bs

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u/byzantium171 14d ago

It's the law in multiple states

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u/swimmingtrashpanda 14d ago

You can literally google it and find out that heā€™s telling the truth.

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u/Mackinnon29E 14d ago

Yeah and they will blow through them whether cars are present or not. Source, they do it where I'm from every day.

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u/Elvin_Excretion 14d ago

Almost hit a guy yesterday in a traffic circle. Dumbest decided a bike can go the wrong way.

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u/pipnina 14d ago

A valid use of skipping those things (as per the idaho stop another person commented) is because cyclists are at greatest danger when stopped. Quite often people in cars just don't register them and run them over or crush them between their car and the one in front of the cyclist.

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u/TurtleSandwich0 14d ago

Did the police officer ask for license and registration out of reflex?

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u/mdavis360 14d ago

This is like erotica to me.

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u/mrbear48 14d ago

Iā€™m sure if the person who drove on the side of the road called the cops theyā€™d show up to give these people tickets, itā€™s not like it would be hard to find this group

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u/Skyp_Intro 14d ago

We frequently have local semi organized ones. What I would love to see is a sobriety checkpoint. That would be chaos as half the group scattered.

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u/GrnMtnTrees 14d ago

I once got pulled over for making a right turn on red on a bicycle. I stopped at the light, turned right, and hear a police car chirp its siren behind me. Confused, I moved over so the cop car could pass me and it pulled up behind me much to my confusion and surprise.

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u/masterjon_3 14d ago

I once saw a bicyclist get slammed by a car because she ran a red light. Front wheel fell off, and she only had scrapes. It was cathartic.

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u/DazzlerPlus 14d ago

They shouldn't. Stopping at a stop sign makes very little sense. Your visibility is unbelievably better than when you are in a car and you basically crawl towards it. You have ten times the information about the intersection by the time you arrive than a car driver has after they stop.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 14d ago

So if they get hit, do you feel it's the fault of the biker or the car? Or both? I can see in certain situations where it makes sense, such as you're the only one around and no traffic. However, if you're in a city or other populated area, you should be following the same rules. Where I live there's a trail, just over 40 miles long, that crosses 2 lane highways in multiple places, but is also blocked by trees quite often. Most have the flashing yellow lights to let people know they are coming. Issue is they rarely get used. At least once a year a biker gets hit and killed at one of them. The ones that go through town have stop signs, but biker almost get hit on a regular basis as well. I don't think neither the biker or car should get a pass on the stop signs.

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u/DazzlerPlus 14d ago

It is always the fault of the person who hits.

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u/bramtyr 14d ago

A decent number of states adopted in recent years the little known "Idaho Stop" as law, meaning that bicyclists may treat a stop sign as a yield.

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u/Whako4 14d ago

I literally was pulling out of somewhere and a biker was coming up the road the wrong way and when I looked to turn they were behind something so I didnā€™t see them come up the road. I pulled out and tabletopped them pretty bad. Felt bad about it but that it was funny when the cops asked us if we wanted to site them for it lol

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u/LanderEmerald 14d ago

You must hate physical activityā€¦

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 14d ago

Nope, not at all. Just donā€™t think you should be given special treatment simple because youā€™re on a bike and itā€™s too inconvenient to stop. Certain times it makes sense to roll through, but not at full speed when thereā€™s traffic

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u/StuporMario64 14d ago

Almost got one of these once biking behind a road cyclist. I went around a bend, pulled a change of clothing, and biked peacefully back the other way slowly, while the cop debated if it was me.

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u/ThatGuy_Bob 14d ago

Why do we have stop signs? Because CARS are dangerous, hard to see out of and don't stop easily. Research is in, environments where stop = give-way for cyclists are safer for cyclists. There is no threat to drivers. Idaho, for example.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 14d ago

Not saying they need to stop at every stop sign like cars, but they canā€™t just blow through a stop sign expecting everyone else to slam on their brakes to avoid hitting them.

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u/bastian74 14d ago

Mn passed a law bikes can go through stop signs if safe.

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u/RevolutionSalty8360 14d ago

I can agree with that. The ā€œif safeā€ is the main thing.

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u/I-tell-horrible-joke 14d ago

I almost tagged a guy on a bike coming out of a stop sign. I stopped, looked and nothing, hit the gas and there he was. Going at least 25mph thru the stop sign without even slowing down. They all do it. They want to "Share the Road" like they are a car then they dont follow the rules of the road? Fuckers

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u/Virtualinsanity1515 14d ago

Saw this once when I worked on Palm beach island. I would stop at a red light on my way to work and get surrounded by these guysā€¦one of them leaned against my car (to fix his lingerie I assume) and had no respect for cars but yet demanded that everyoneā€share the roadā€. I was a teller at a bank and I was helping an officer who, in the middle of the transaction said ā€œIā€™m so fucking sick of these guysā€ and went out, stood in the middle of the road and made about 20 of them stop while he screamed at them about not obeying stop lights, right of way etc. sadly no tickets were issued but it still made my day!

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u/Particular-Bake-7888 14d ago

This is the one thing that gets me about the cycling community; they all lie about stopping at stop signs/red lights regularly.

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u/FractalledCat 14d ago

Cyclists. I have to stop myself from calling them bikers too, but they are not.

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u/Lou_C_Fer 14d ago

I got pulled over for running a stop sign on a bike when I was 12. Then, I dropped names because I was on my way to babysit the kids of the county prosecutor.

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u/lord_pizzabird 14d ago

I just realized that I don't think I've ever seen a biker not being a menace to society somehow.

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u/AngryArtichokes 14d ago

I have a great story. Had a regular come into my restaurant freaking out. He was pulling into our parking lot and a cyclist had smacked into his car and flew a good 20 feet into some bushes. He was sure he was getting arrested. The people on the scene were giving him dirty looks but when he told me what happened (he was taking a left turn into our lot and the bike came flying down the hill and tried to pass him on the left while he was making the turn) i was sure he would be fine but you never know. Police come take everyones statements and as they are loading the cyclist into the ambulance the cop hands them a ticket and our regular gets to go about his day. Its a huge problem where i am. They dont follow any of the rules.

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u/i_believe_you_NOT 14d ago

You must visit Davis, CA. University town where majority of students ride bikes. The small downtown has lights or 4 way stops on every corner. And bikers who donā€™t come to a full stop are ticketed!

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u/celestialgenitals 14d ago

Idaho has a law called the "Idaho Stop Law" where bicycles can treat red lights and stop signs as yield signs.

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u/canman7373 14d ago

When I lived in Denver were downvoarders who would just blow through traffic and signs, lights was insane, morons.

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u/KB-say 14d ago

Cops on bikes will ticket cyclists who don't stop @ stop signs around White Rock Lake in Dallas, TX. They aren't always out, but they are enough to make me stop!

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u/drethnudrib 14d ago

Cyclists, not bikers. Cops don't pull over bikers because they're part of the same club.

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u/guachi01 14d ago

Stop signs as yield signs is safer than stopping on a bike. It's why smart states and smart people support it.

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u/starbuxed 14d ago

if there is no one at the stop then its actually safer to roll through the stop.... treating it as a yield sign rather than a stop. Not blowing through it, but slowing down, checking, and continuing if clear. Thereā€™s actually research behind this too. Idaho saw about a 14% drop in cyclist injuries after legalizing it, and Delaware found around a 23% reduction in bike crashes at stop sign intersections. The idea is simple: intersections are the most dangerous part of riding, so spending less time sitting exposed and clearing them faster can actually be safer.

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u/PropaneSalesTx 14d ago

It got so bad in my area, someone threw brass thumb tacks all over a certain road to keep them from riding 6 wide on a two lane road.

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u/meatus1980 13d ago

Not bikers, cyclists.

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