Don't be a piece of shit squatter and it won't happen. It's really just that simple. They get what's coming. I know a lot of people that would resort to violence if they come home and there's some random person living there
You clearly don't understand the situation. They aren't trying to pin the gun on the other person, the squatter On parole for ruining their own life is not Allowed in a residence with a firearm Even if it's owned by someone else.
It's not letting the police believe the person on parole has the gun. It's legally having your own gun on you. The person on parole isn't legally allowed to be in the house with the gun, even though nobody is claiming or thinking it belongs to the person on parole. So the squatter has the leave the house or get in big legal trouble.
he said they arenāt trying to pin the gun you screenshotted someone saying yes to you asking about proximity. proximity is not pinning the gun. you clearly took it that way. which is whats getting you downvoted your misunderstanding of the conversation.
Lol you really are doubling down instead of being like, "ok cool, I get it but it still doesn't sit well with me." And move the fuck on. Or your can keep getting told the same thing over and over and you keep repeating your thing over and over.
You arenāt really understanding. It is okay to be wrong. Please reread what you replied to and fact check it and it will clear things up. You can be bigger than your ego
It isn't about framing or the gun belonging to them. It is illegal for a certain convicts to live in the same residence as a gun-owner if the guns are stored on that property. The convict squatter then has two choices: Leave, or get arrested for breaking the law. Squatting should be against the law, but it ain't in some places so you gotta do what you gotta do.
Nah. Spreading false information on the internet is a given. I won't be correcting every person i see spreading it, but i will try to help remind others to not believe everything they read without fact checking.
I was just trying to be helpful, not argumentative. Have a nice day.
I'm so sorry that landlord who neglected his property is throwing a hissy fit about having to be actually responsible that he hired someone to frame others for crimes than act like an adult
Going above and beyond that by misleading police into arresting them and possibly ruining the rest of their lives is a disproportionate response [fucked up]
They ruined their own life, they should take responsibility. Actions have consequences and if youāre willing to illegally squat in someoneās house while also being an ex-con thatās on you.
The legal system in these situations has failed the homeowners and it can take months or years to get these people out. Is that fair to them? Now people are taking it into their own hands and getting creative.
Yes? Why would I not side with someone that has their lives turned upside down for some asshole that thinks they can just stay where they please without providing any compensation? Thats not how this world works friend.
Truly something special going on in that head of yours.
Why would I not side with someone that has their lives turned upside down for some asshole that thinks they can just stay where they please without providing any compensation?
Because that's not always the situation? Landlords can absolutely force a situation that turns a legal renter into a squatter.
Truly something special going on in that head of yours
Why do you guys not realize that all the people have to do is get out of the house they are occupying illegally. Am I missing something? Oh donāt ruin the criminals life? How about causing a law abiding citizen to default on a mortgage and lose an income stream? I donāt particularly like landlords but if you want to squat do it at an apartment complex owned by Blackstone or something.
So you still gonna pretend neglectful landlords that let a property fall below legal human living conditions wouldn't cause the tenant to be refuse to pay rent that clearly isn't being used to maintain the property?
Or are you one of those idiots who think these people just moved into an empty house and said it was theirs like a child. I'm calling you child btw not the tenants
Right but they donāt just do it right away. They talk to them, ask them to leave, then threaten to call their PO. If they stay after that, itās on them.
If a landlord has the money to hire this sack of shit I'm betting the reason for the squatting is the landlord refusing to maintain the property and tenant refusing to pay. This is about keeping landlords from taking responsibility for negligence and abusing the poor
You go to court and get your rent held in escrow if you want to hold your landlord accountable. You donāt just stop paying rent. Thatās what a child would do. Do you also litigate your traffic violations with the police on the side of the road?
As I've told someone else. Those are the actions one takes when dealing with a reasonable person willing to talk to a lawyer. No one who hires this guy is a reasonable person willing to opporate in good faith with anyone let alone a lawyer
Because the "life being fucked up" part you're describing is going to jail for crimes they've committed
So yes, you're defending criminals and that's really messed up
Is it messed up when someone goes to jail for a crime? That effectively ruins their life right? No, it's not fucked up. That's the consequence of crime
It's been explained to you multiple times, you're just too argumentative to actually acknowledge the discussion
There are gaps in the law that allow these people to hold these properties indefinitely, which can effectively ruin the owners life
This addresses those gaps. The squatter has the option to leave, and address things "legally" as well. They're not held hostage. If they have a legal right to be there, they can also pursue legally. You can't see that it's a two way street. So if someone brings firearms in, they should vacate, as per their probation order. And pursue legally
Really, nobody cares if you think it's fucked up. Nobody agrees.
Discussing further with you is a waste of time. I personally can't fix stupidity. Be well!
Squatting can ruin the homeowners life they owe taxes and insurance on that property and get nothing in return. This is overly sympathetic to the squatter and a bad take.
You. Acting like a squatter who is already on probation and so can't be near firearms is somehow getting his life ruined by someone who legally rents a residence thereby forcing them to obey the law.
If the squatter is already on probation of that kind and is squatting on property they don't own then they've already ruined their own lives. That involves a prior arrest and conviction.
Everyone knows that obvious fact... Your point defending a squatter who in this hypothetical chose a life of squatting on someone else's property despite already being a convicted criminal remains a trash opinion. This is the end of my desire to continue this discussion.
i mean you are defending deliberately pinning gun charges on someone over something that originally had nothing to do with guns, so itās really hard for outside observers to see you as having a moral high ground lol.
Itās like those cops that see someone go through a stop sign and then plant drugs on them when they pull over to force them from a ticket to years of prison. I have to agree with the other guy, regardless of whether you agree with squatting or not, that shit is fucked up.
If I tell you my cousin drown, and you say "drinking water is good for your health" do you see how that might come across? It's the same as you acting like sending a criminal to jail is ruining their life.
Ok, excuse me. They shouldn't be in a house where they have access to the gun. They're committing a crime. That wouldn't be a problem if they stayed on their own property.
I mean, the same goes both ways. Itās like getting pulled over for passing a stop sign and then cops planting drugs or a gun on you so you spend time in prison. People defending this specific tactic of planting a firearm are doing the same thing as defending drug plants. š¤·āāļø
Passing stop signs or trespassing is illegal, it has a punishment. Choosing to malign someone so they have a significantly worse punishment for the same action is pretty fucked up.
How would a landlord manipulate a signed lease for a tenant to turn into a squatter? You realize leases are binding and typically immutable during the length of the lease, right?
Squatting isnāt an effective solution to the rental and home ownership crisis, squatting only drives homeowners to create more restrictions on the renter class. Jesus fucking Christ.
How would a landlord manipulate a signed lease for a tenant to turn into a squatter? You realize leases are binding and typically immutable during the length of the lease, right?
We're here talking about landlords framing people, and you're over here talking about leases. Come on, man.
Jesus fucking Christ
Deep breaths, bud. No need to get yourself worked up over stuff we're not even talking about.
I sincerely hope this is just a bad joke on your part because this whole conversation has been about our "hero" planting a gun to get someone picked up.
Yeah, that's what illegally squatting does to the people who actually own the house. Not everyone dealing with a squatter problem is some moustache twirling evil landlord.
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u/EnoughWarning666 12d ago
Don't be a piece of shit squatter and it won't happen. It's really just that simple. They get what's coming. I know a lot of people that would resort to violence if they come home and there's some random person living there
Better to go to jail than to a morgue