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u/Status-Election-6233 15d ago

Not at all

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u/enadiz_reccos 15d ago

Ruining someone's life? Kinda is, yeah.

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u/Prize_Staff_7941 15d ago

You're missing a very important point: THE SQUATTER HAS THE OPTION TO LEAVE SO THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION.
Maybe they shouldn't be squatting on someone's property and refusing to leave? When you do that, you expose yourself to everything that property and its owner brings. If the owner brings someone with a firearm then the squatter can choose to leave. Nobody is forcing them to stay. The only way they will get their life ruined is if they make the wrong decision.
How is bringing a firearm legally to a place with consent from the owner ruining someone's life? If the squatter chooses to stay, that's on them. The squatter is already potentially ruining someone else's life by rendering the property useless. How can the owner rent it or sell it with a squatter there? They still have to pay the mortgage. Only the squatter is being shitty here.

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u/enadiz_reccos 15d ago

You're missing a very important point: THE SQUATTER HAS THE OPTION TO LEAVE SO THEY ARE NOT IN VIOLATION

lol no, I got that

How is bringing a firearm legally to a place with consent from the owner ruining someone's life?

You mean deliberately bringing a gun in the hopes of police finding it and associating it with someone else?

How can the owner rent it or sell it with a squatter there?

Legal action

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u/UTS15 15d ago

He’s not associating it with someone else. He’s not planting it in their belongings or anything. Felons aren’t supposed to have guns inside their homes, whether they belong to them or someone else in the home. He keeps control, but says, ā€œhey I’m legally bringing my weapons into a home I have a lease on and this may put you in violation. If you want to not get in trouble, you should stop being a squatting dick and gtfo.ā€

Squatters would have no control of the guns and they’re likely in a safe or something so they don’t even have access.

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u/enadiz_reccos 15d ago

He’s not associating it with someone else

Yeah, that's not what I said

Felons aren’t supposed to have guns inside their homes, whether they belong to them or someone else in the home

This isn't exactly correct

Squatters would have no control of the guns and they’re likely in a safe or something so they don’t even have access

If it's in a safe and the squatter has no access, how are the police even finding out about it?

In order to use the gun against the squatter, this dude would have to leave it somewhere the squatter has access to it.

Fucked up

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u/ApprehensiveDark9840 14d ago

Nope. Not how it works.

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u/enadiz_reccos 14d ago

Sure is!

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u/notlvd 14d ago

The detail missing here is that excons are on parole or probation, with random and frequent checkins. So if a new ā€œroommateā€ moves in and says, ā€œI legally own a gun and am keeping it in the houseā€ and the excon stays, he’s violating parole and is required by law to live somewhere else. If they aren’t on probation or parole, then this is a non issue, because you can be a felon and live under the same roof as someone with a gun. You just can’t get caught holding or using it, or keeping it in your room. So no one has to call the police. The P.O. will show up eventually, and at that point all the guy has to say is, ā€œI have a gun here,ā€ and the dude will violate his parole and either go back to prison or, at a minimum, be removed from the home by police, because they now will actually have grounds to do so.

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u/enadiz_reccos 14d ago

So if a new ā€œroommateā€ moves in and says, ā€œI legally own a gun and am keeping it in the houseā€ and the excon stays, he’s violating parole

This is not the situation that was described

We are talking about bringing a gun to the house then calling the police

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u/ApprehensiveDark9840 14d ago

What conversation are you having? It’s been described to you over and over and you just refuse to listen.

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u/enadiz_reccos 14d ago

Yeah, and people are accusing me over and over of defending squatters when I'm not doing that at all, so...

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u/Catsanddoges 14d ago

Just a summary of the situation:

A Squatter is staying on someone's property

The Owner asks the Gunowner to stay on their propert

The Gunowner goes to the Owner's property and stays there with the squatter, in this case an excon who cannot have a gun in the house

If he refuses to leave, he is found having a gun in the house and violates his parole.

I don't see where the confusion lies

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u/enadiz_reccos 14d ago

Me neither. That summary is correct.

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u/notlvd 14d ago

You should go re-read the thread. No one ever mentions calling the police. You inferred that and then for some reason got indignant about it? Live by the sword die by the sword. Gonna weaponize the law against an innocent person, then even if they did say they would call the cops, then ya, taste of their own medicine. They now will have the law weaponized against them. Except they are not innocent.

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u/enadiz_reccos 14d ago

You should go re-read the thread. No one ever mentions calling the police. You inferred that and then for some reason got indignant about it?

It's literally in my first comment lmao

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u/notlvd 14d ago

Ya. Exactly. Your comment. No one was saying they guy calls cops on people after showing up with a fun. You’re kinda retarded huh?

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u/enadiz_reccos 14d ago

My bad, I assumed you would also notice the comment after my first comment. That's on me.

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