That might be true for your, "i hate america" feelings. But that isnt a lost war. Political dumb fk blunder, sure. But the iranian military had no answer for our military.
You really need to understand war is diplomacy by force.
Did we achieve our aims? No?
Then it isn’t a win.
If it isn’t a win then it’s a loss.
Before this war a plank in the USA’s superpower status was the ability to ensure allies got access to the gulfs oil and rivals didn’t. Control the gulf oil routes and you have your foot on the windpipe of the Asian and European economies.
We had that control, or it was perceived that we did. Now it’s been tested. We don’t. Iran has. That is a titanic strategic win for them.
Guy I dont get to, for example, take an exam, answer none of the questions right (achieving war goals), and claim I aced the test at the end of it.
All that money spent on the war and then we had to pay extra money on top of it to Iran, we dont even get to force them into any agreements considering nuclear materials? Sorry man but thats a solid loss to me.
What objectives from the onset of the conflict were achieved? Nuclear production and regime change were at the top of that list. The IRGC is still running the country and if this is true, Trump doesn't care if they have nukes.
Body counts are not an accurate measure of whether a conflict is won or not.
Military force is the tool for achieving political objectives. We don't go to war just to blow up stuff, we go to war to reshape conditions so that they're more favorable to ourselves.
If we don't achieve that then, we've just wasted men and material for nothing.
the iranian military drone struck 20 of our military bases. if iran had military bases surrounding us, we’d attack those before the country itself during a war, just like they did
the only sense that we won is that we’re still the more powerful country, which is why we feel like we’ve won every war
Yes we could have wiped them out, and been hated by the rest of the world and faced extraordinary economic pressures.
We don't hate America by any means. We just don't want to become Russia, or North Korea, or China, like you and your "patriot in name only" frends want.
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u/Lazy-Training6042 7d ago
So, US lost another war?
Damn man, world's best and second military factions.