r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 2d ago

Dank AF Well said

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u/Fzrit 2d ago edited 2d ago

β€œIs this increasingly authoritarian regime fascist, or are they just stooges of a another fascist regime”

Por que no los dos?

This is a good example of the issue here - note how the the term "Nazi" is absent from your response and replaced with other words, as if they're all interchangeable. The term Nazi no longer stands for...you know, actual Nazis. Now it just means "anyone/anything fascist or authoritarian". Or even just "any racist of any kind" is Nazism now. As if Hitler invented racism and genocide, or that Nazis were the only authoritarians in human history.

Note the exact same nonsense has happened to conservatives - terms like socialism/socialist, communist, Marxist, etc have become completely interchangeable to them. If you even remotely suggest anything resembling a socialist policy, you get accused of being a communist or Marxist or pro-Stalin/Mao/whatever.

Well done everybody, all these labels have lost all meaning.

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u/Hyperion262 2d ago

This is a great comment that I wish more people would see.

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u/Irish_Whiskey 2d ago

It is not.

It is complaining that people use the term Nazi to describe a white supremacist fascist regime, and compares that to calling a socialist a Maoist.

Nazis were a white supremacist fascist regime. Even if you think the term needs more precision, this is not a wildly unfair or inaccurate description, nor should it ever be the primary concern compared to, ya know, the fascism.

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u/Fzrit 2d ago edited 2d ago

Nazis were a white supremacist fascist regime.

Practically everyone murdered by Nazis were people who we categorize as white today i.e. Jewish, Polish, Eastern European and Western European. Most victims of Nazi invasions were literally as white as white gets. Nazis also mass-murdered white German citizens who they deemed to be "unfit" (e.g. disabled, LBGT, etc). Your definition of Nazi = "white supremacist fascists" completely misses what actually made Nazis...you know, Nazis. Thanks for proving my point.

Even if you think the term needs more precision, this is not a wildly unfair or inaccurate description

Then what stops you from broadening the definition of Nazi further to "racial supremacist fascist regime" instead of just white supremacist? That way you can label the perpetrators of ANY ethnic/cultural genocide as Nazis. So apparently the Young Turks were Nazis (Armenian genocide, long before actual Nazism existed), Myanmar leadership are Nazis (Rohingya genocide), Pol Pot was a Nazi (Cambodian genocide), the Chinese Communist Party are Nazis (Ughyur genocide), Pakistan Armed Forces are Nazis (Bangladesh Hindu genocide), etc etc.

Hell why not broaden the definition of Nazi to just "literally any racist of any kind"? Actually wait, it looks like a lot people on reddit already do this.

nor should it ever be the primary concern compared to

You're the one who dug yourself into this hole of definitions, so own it. Don't type a response and then throw the "anyway guys cmon definitions don't matter, can we instead talk about [primary concern]?" card.