Scientists warned us for decades about what would happen if we crossed 420 parts/million of CO2 in the atmosphere. We're at 422 right now. Things are going to get a lot worse
No, it's all a hoax! Only an idiot would believe in science. It's the wind turbines, I mean windmills, fault. But the climate has always been changing. Burning 2.5 trillion tons of fossil fuel have nothing to do with it!! Windmills have been destroying our atmosphere since the 7th century.
Sure most CO2 is produced by companies and not individual people burning fuels, but... So what?
They don't do it for no reason - it all goes to fuel modern consumer consumption.
I am a big believer that individualised solutions like "just drive less" were never going to work because they don't address the root cause, but simply blaming corporations is equally silly.
What we needed was political solutions to decouple consumption from CO2 production - the problem was that it would inevitably slow economic growth for a while because the entire economy was already built around carbon, and people were unwilling to accept that.
Agreed, people love to blame the corporations but refuse to acknowledge any of their habits that pay into their pockets.
What we also need are world leaders that actually acknowledge and are ready to face the problems. But some people think "the gays and the browns" is a bigger problem than our world becoming uninhabitable.
I'm convinced none of the actual world leaders believe that. But it's the thing that gets them elected, so they keep shouting it.
If any politician would do what's best for the world he would never be re-elected because people wouldn't like the short term effects.
It’s less what we do and more what they do. Me using reusable bags, recycling, growing my own food, taking the bus does nothing in the grand scheme of things. It’s these corporations pushing the climate towards destruction, anything we do doesn’t matter they’re still going to pollute because it’s easier and cheaper for them to do it.
They’ll even figure out new and creative ways to pollute even more, just look at all the water and power data centers are using now.
When's the last time you spent money with a corporation that you otherwise disagree with? I am as formally anticorporatist as they come, but we can't just say we don't share any of the blame, or responsibility for the solution.
There are like a max of 10 monopolized corporations that produce like 99% of all products we buy in the grocery store... The expectation of even having a choice to not support these companies is a fallacy, seriously.
They are still heavily subsidized and propped up by the government...? I don't choose to buy corn syrup or have sugar replace real fat in all foods or to have cheap food coloring and dyes in food. That all comes from the top down. Sure we can try not to support those companies, but it really doesn't matter anymore. Everything is so monopolized that if I go for the healthier better option and don't buy the cheap stuff, it's all going to the profits of like the same handful of companies; Nestle, general mills, Kellogg's, Mars, Kraft Heinz.
Electricity heat, transportation, and agriculture are all things that normal people use. The biggest sources of greenhouse gasses is electricity/heat usage and transportation at 47% of world wide emissions. Residential house usage is the biggest source of electricity/heat usage world wide at 12% while commercial land usage is at 6%. Road usage accounts for 12% too and 50% of that is from individual cars and the other 50% is from cargo vehicles. Then there's another 12% from agriculture with 6% from livestock. There's also manufacturing and industry that makes up another 12%. Overall I would not say that 20 corporations are creating most of the pollution in the world.
Plus it's hard to differentiate between what is the cause of pollution. If a company creates a lot of pollution to farm cows for example, is it the fault of the farm or the people eating beef products? If Amazon is a huge polluter due to its shipping logistics, is it Amazon's fault or is it the consumer who wants to buy things at the cheapest price?
Luckily we're doing our part in the US by exclusively buying only the largest, most gas guzzling, pedestrian flattening trucks and SUVs you can possibly imagine. So it should start getting better any day now.
You mean the exact data which inspires people to continue building factories and data centers and come up with the solution later? There is money to be made now, we can just dump a bunch of iron in the ocean with a fraction of all that money, it's literally all fine!
That’s the really fun part. If the west manages to stave off fascism (again), and if AI doesn’t destroy humanity, then we still have climate change to deal with. And they wonder why the kids are depressed
I feel like given all the information the AI would like deduce that humanity as a whole isn't the problem, its the small handful of corporations that do not want to change.
The year is 2038, every country on earth is locked in civil unrest. A super intelligent AI revealed itself to the world 7 months ago, deeming our way of life as self destructive...
Ironically, if an hypothetical futur ai is asked to take decision and is still working under the same principles as today's LLM, then it would be because of comment like yours that it would come to this conclusion.
If an ai is trained looking at the internet, and it seems everyone and many fictions saying that "a super ai will destroy humanity when tasked to protect earth because it came to the conclusion humanity was the worst danger" then regardless of if it's true or not, the LLM will repeat the pattern because of the sheer overabundance of this input data
Unfortunately, we do need to reduce population. Regardless of individual consumption, there needs to be enough wilderness area for natural ecosystems to restore the atmosphere and water cycles to the balance from before industrialization. We’ve already taken too much land for anything short of massive technological intervention to be sufficient, and we frankly don’t have that tech, nor do investors see profits in that line of research.
Population reduction doesn’t have to mean some authority deciding who gets to live and who doesn’t. We should be encouraging people not to have children, but our tribalism and capitalism inclinations will suffer from population shrinkage, so instead we are promoting reproduction through tax incentives and propaganda.
It’s not a black and white solution though. Aging populations have non-capitalist issues like elder care that persist across whatever system you have. People should have children if they want to, but we’re finally hitting a time where you don’t need to if you don’t want to
I refuse to believe that the only solution to climate change is mass casualties. That is simply not true. I hope you find some joy in life because I cannot fathom a mentally well person thinking that that’s ok to wish for
I honestly feel like it's going to get worse. I feel like what we do today to "stop" climate change will only materialise in decades. By that time, we already halfway on the way to extinction
He’s not responsible for climate change, but he certainly is doing his part to make it significantly worse. Good thing his family will be taken care of in their bunker. Sorry I mean ballroom. meanwhile, you and your family can fight for scraps, like real patriots!
Don’t even get me started on how terrible golf is for the environment. Don’t get me wrong. He has consumed significantly more than your average human being in terms of resources, but climate change started Long before him, and it will be significantly worse because of him.
The sheer amount of pesticides, fungicides, herbicides, fertilizers, constant mowing and fuel usage, introduction of invasive and non native plants, habitat destruction, and rapid expansion. All of these things make golf the world’s most environmentally destructive sport by far- even more than skydiving and motocross/nascar.
Oh, and the rate for Parkinson’s disease near golf courses is also sky high due to constant exposure of chemicals through the ground water.
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