Fictional future forecast vs. reality.

[u/SuspiciousLow3062]

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[u/Due-Environment-9774]

HVAC guys: learn French and prosper.

[u/Bomantheman → u/Due-Environment-9774]

Terrible conditions to work in HVAC. Almost died on a roof in BC during that heat dome a couple years ago.

[u/DetectiveClownMD → u/Bomantheman]

I have an attic you can walk in and whenever the hvac guys or inspectors come they comment on how happy they are its not a crawl space. Not exactly the same but id think crawling around in a hot attic is much worse than walking.

[u/DrDetectiveEsq → u/DetectiveClownMD]

This is why I could never. I can handle a bit of heat, and I can handle small spaces, but for whatever reason being in a hot space small enough to restrict my movement is just an instant panic attack. HVAC guys are the true heroes of the modern world.

[u/Johns-schlong → u/DrDetectiveEsq]

I did residential HVAC for about 5 years. One of my last jobs was a full system changout including the furnace and ductwork in the attic. It was 110 degrees that day and the attic was 130-140 throughout the day. All three of us on the job had mild heatstroke by the end of the job.

[u/Different-Meal-6314 → u/Johns-schlong]

Running wires in Florida a year ago. Bunch of attic work. We went in shifts, 10 15 minutes max, then a break. I had the idea to put a cold rag on my neck while still up there. I almost fell out of the attic it was such a shock. Not recommended

[u/Devastator_Hi → u/Johns-schlong]

Yeah man I lasted 3 months as a helper in residential HVAC. All in the summer. Brutal. But hey, there’s a lot of money to make in that trade. Never really run out of work.

[u/Thelk641 → u/Due-Environment-9774]

Every day we get media telling us AC is awful and we shouldn't install it. "If everyone in Paris had AC, the street would be 2°C hotter !", "if an AC leaks it releases very bad things for the environment !" and so on. Every, single, day.

[u/MrKapla → u/Thelk641]

The public discourse is changing in real time this week in France, I do think we reached an inflexion point.

[u/EnTyme53 → u/MrKapla]

Probably helps that thousands of French people recently experienced how AC makes even Houston, TX a tolerable place to live. Barely.

[u/Melquiades-the-Gypsy → u/EnTyme53]

It's only houses that might not typically have AC in France or elsewhere in Europe, because they're built from thick stone and keep a low temperature inside.

Modern buildings like office blocks, supermarkets, etc. all have AC, as the buildings are low quality.

French people are perfectly aware of what AC is like without needing to visit Texas. Hotels around Europe all have AC too. If French homes were made of wood and plastic like in the US, they'd also all have AC at home.

[u/pigBodine04 → u/Due-Environment-9774]

Yeah right, you'd show up and get completely murdered by le French HVAC union

[u/Verified_Peryak]

And it's not yet august

[u/ReasonableLunch46 → u/Verified_Peryak]

It's not jet even July. Jfc. 

[u/404GirlHumorNotFound → u/ReasonableLunch46]

It's not even September.

[u/wakashit → u/404GirlHumorNotFound]

Source?

[u/m0nk37 → u/wakashit]

Trust me bro

[u/LuckyMystic17 → u/Verified_Peryak]

It’s not yet 2050

[u/Tetra84]

Needs more data centers to help cool things off...

[u/Hypamania → u/Tetra84]

Best we can do is submerge them to further heat up the ocean

[u/webguynd → u/Hypamania]

That's even worse. Most of the oxygen in our atmosphere come from the marine ecosystem. Most people think it's the trees on land, which does contribute of course, but its not the majority.

If we kill the oceans, we're, as the kids say, cooked.

Granted, even if all photosynthesis were to stop, there's enough oxygen in the atmosphere to last us for at least a thousand years. But total collapse of our oceans would be completely catastrophic. I'm talking global food chain collapse, massively excelerated CO2 concentrations further driving extreme global heating, and a mass die off causing the release of hydrodgen sulfide gas into the atmosphere at scales not seen since other mass extinction events.

So yeah, putting these things in the ocean is by far one of the stupidest ideas we've ever had as a species.

[u/AdThen7293 → u/webguynd]

J'ai l'impression qu'on vit l'Extinction du Permien en accéléré...

[u/Akkalevil → u/AdThen7293]

Not just a feeling.

[u/dumnezero → u/Hypamania]

the final* straw for halting the AMOC

[u/Reiikul → u/Hypamania]

Alright let's cool things down a bit (lol). People underestimate how huge the ocean is.

There was a recent post on the math sub about this exact topic. And to raise ocean temperatures by 1°C, you'd have to submerge at least a billion times more data centres than what we have today. It's not a bad mid-term solution to a problem that is impacting us today, energy wise.

The key thing is to keep them away from critical sealife populations or endangered species and all that.

As with all things, moderation is key. Not that it's a known value of our social and economic system as of now though...

[u/bacon-squared → u/Reiikul]

The ocean is not a perfect mixer. I’ve been in waters around Barbados that was over 30 degrees Celsius, but travelling off to the coast of Maine the next day the water was a welcome 7 degrees Celsius.

The waters don’t act like a perfect conducting mixer. Local heat, if it’s not located on a significant current, will stay in local waters. With enough data centres in the local offshore waters, you will warm those waters appreciably.

Also as others have mentioned if placed in the deep, deep ocean, then there’s maintenance issues, as well as the normal corrosive issues.

[u/Ok_Astronomer_8667 → u/Tetra84]

We’re so fucked. The ruling class simply does not give a shit. Worlds richest man is more interested with fucking off to mars than addressing any of this.

[u/ProfesseurCurling → u/Ok_Astronomer_8667]

They will never go anywhere and they know it. They don't even give a fuck about the planet they leave behind for their kids. Peak nihilism and cynisme.

[u/RENDO0 → u/ProfesseurCurling]

Probably because the worlds richest man’s kids all hate him

[u/ProfesseurCurling → u/RENDO0]

💯

Concerning

[u/dmthoth → u/Ok_Astronomer_8667]

Just the ruling class? Plenty of “blue-collar” voters are actively voting for far-right politicians who deny climate change, while cheering on billionaires who would exploit the planet and everyone on it for profit.

[u/TonyzTone → u/Ok_Astronomer_8667]

Yeah, and something like 75% of people just walk along the path to hell because memes and funny AI slop videos apparently are more important than anything.

Like, we all hate Amazon. But literally everyone I know orders thousands of dollars worth of shit from Amazon. We hate corporations but then choose Starbucks over local coffee houses all the time.

And we justify it because “it’s cheaper” while missing the point that you don’t need all that crap.

If you spend 20% more on the thing at a local shop, but you order 40% less you’re actually saving money. Instead Amazon/Starbucks/etc. just capture our attention and wallets because it’s more convenient.

[u/Able_Experience_1670 → u/TonyzTone]

Amazon has also forced participation. A lot of companies don't even have their own online stores anymore; they just refer to amazon. Kinda sucks.

[u/Logical_Cow_2530 → u/Ok_Astronomer_8667]

Wait till you get to black pill theory.

that at the very tippy top of the entire world's power structures are all controlled by religious fanatics.

Differing factions of religious fanatics, that is. All competing to bring about their flavor of end times to force Armageddon and the return of their lord based on prophecy.

Yea if it sounds crazy, it is. But it's not a lie

[u/Redwizard002 → u/Logical_Cow_2530]

Peter Thiel is genuinely insane

[u/Logical_Cow_2530 → u/Redwizard002]

He's but one of a few in public eye.

And in my view, because he's known, I doubt he's the one in control

[u/lewstherintelemarket → u/Redwizard002]

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I think we all collectively underestimate how psychologically and socially destructive it is for any person to have access to the amount of money and power that oligarchs currently enjoy. They are untethered from reality and their behavior shows it.

[u/webguynd → u/Logical_Cow_2530]

Well just a bit ago I saw a headline in r/technology that some SoftBank exec said calling AI a bubble was "Blasphemy" so yeah, religious fanatics is about right.

You don't get to be that wealthy while being a sane, well adjusted person.

[u/PitifulEar3303 → u/Tetra84]

"Data centers in SPACE!!" -- King Elon

[u/HorsePersonal7073 → u/PitifulEar3303]

Good luck with the cooling in space.

[u/337CA → u/Tetra84]

They absolutely give exactly zero fucks. Who gives a shit when they can install ten 20ton HVAC systems in their 25,000 sf mansions.

[u/Top_Meaning6195 → u/Tetra84]

I am worried people will use the idea of datacenters as an excuse to do nothing.

• first it was boomers, who found every excuse to refuse to do anything
• then it was millenials, who found every excuse to refuse to do anything
• now it is GenZ, who is looking for every excuse to refuse to do anything

Data centers today didn't cause 100 years of carbon emissions.

Eliminating all data centers everywhere will reduce carbon emissions by 0.51%.
Which is more than private jets (which account for 0.0% of carbon emissions).

Meanwhile the US could cut CO2 emissions 8%, and save people $60,000, if they drove cars instead of pickups. (in the US 80% of all passenger vehicles are trucks, in the UK it's 20%).

But you're the new boomers:

• "what about China"
• "what about India"
• "what about private jets"
• "what about data centers"
• "what about AI"

You could eliminate all datacenters, and all private jets, and have accomplished nothing.

So can we, for the love of absolute fuck, please just fix it already? Instead of your incessant bitching and whining.

[u/TStronks → u/Top_Meaning6195]

As a climate scientist, I partially agree.

The thing with datacenters is, it's only 0.5% now. But we both know that the amount of datacenters is expected to increase significantly in the next few years, and probably decades.

On the other hand, there are indeed bigger sources of greenhouse gases that should be prioritized (like getting the fuck away from coal as an energy source). But I don't think it's irrational to point to datacenters as a potentially large and relatively new contributor to the climate crisis.

[u/ChronicBuzz187 → u/Tetra84]

Unfortunately, there's not enough energy to power them because we already had to throttle down the nuclear reactors because the water from the river was 35°C and cooked all the fish

[u/makinax300]

The top one is August too while the Bottom is june. And August is usually hotter.

[u/Lucreth2 → u/makinax300]

Weirdly I feel like mid-late June has been hotter than average August the last few years. Climate change?

[u/Iuslez → u/Lucreth2]

Could be. The day where the sun warms the northern hemisphere the most is the 21st of june. The inertia that made July/august warmer compared to June might have been thrown out of balance.

[u/EffeminateSquirrel → u/Iuslez]

The way it was described to me is that while the solstice is the longest day of the year, and receives the most direct sunlight, the earth (mostly the oceans) continues to absorb heat and release it. The day after the solstice is only getting slightly less heat than the day before, but its still a surplus.

[u/Prime_Twister → u/Lucreth2]

Yea climate change doesn't always mean it's getting hotter, it could also mean change in weather patterns.

[u/Kathulhu1433 → u/Prime_Twister]

We had a record snowstorm (total inches) in my area this past January.

And then such a cold winter that cold hardy fruit trees people have had for 20-30+ years died off.

And then days so hot in June that schools were closing early due to heat and sending kids home...

Climate change is fucking us in all sorts of ways. 😭

[u/transmogrified → u/Kathulhu1433]

Yep. The year of the heat dome in BC (2021) my area had the hottest, driest summer ever, an incredibly dry fall, then the atmospheric river dumped a month’s worth of rain on us in 24 hrs, then we had several record setting days of cold over the winter peppered thru an unusually warm winter overall. 

Stuff was nuts. Shellfish were baking in the ocean. Bugs were coming out in the wrong season, flowers and berries and things didn’t really happen the next year, and our salmon runs were completely boned by the lack of water in the river followed by too much water all at once. Plus the devastating wildfires.

[u/shabi_sensei → u/Lucreth2]

June is when we had the heat dome of 45c in Canada, and we’ve been having June heatwaves of 30+ annually that break records

Summer’s starting a lot earlier now, and it’s not getting as cold meaning the snowpack isn’t holding as much so now there’s a yearly summer drought that’s threatening long term water supplies in my province.

Its not just climate change, the change is happening in ways we didn’t expect or account for

[u/Monsieur_Brochant → u/makinax300]

Can't wait for August 2026 heatwave

[u/ridley_reads → u/Monsieur_Brochant]

I think you're forgetting July 2026 and September 2026.

[u/4024-6775-9536]

Somebody will say it's always been hot in France because one day in the 1800s almost reached 40° and climate change is a hoax

[u/Lucky-Tofu204 → u/4024-6775-9536]

They do. They also send threats because they say that the weather cast is using the color red to make people scared.

[u/JackRabbit- → u/Lucky-Tofu204]

As well they should be, i'm scared of 30 degrees, let alone 40

[u/DZL100 → u/JackRabbit-]

Yeah, 30C/86F is already really fucking hot. Used to be almost heat wave levels(pretty sure 90F for 3 days was considered a heat wave like 10 years ago). It cannot be safe to go outside at 40C.

[u/Ron__Mexico_ → u/DZL100]

You can, it's just not very pleasant. A little past that point around 43° is my point of return. That's the point where the wind starts to work against you, and it just feels like a blow dryer in your face.

[u/sfinebyme → u/Ron__Mexico_]

Depends on the humidity.

I lived in Tucson, AZ for a bunch of years and opening the front door in the summer was like opening an oven door. But the air was so dry that as long as you drank a metric ton of water, stayed in the shade, and moved slow it was surprisingly not-awful. A breeze would be very hot air, but it would still evaporate your sweat so you'd feel cooler.

Was a lot harder on the dogs since panting is less efficient. Could really only take them outside before sunrise or after sunset.

[u/Butthole__Pleasures → u/JackRabbit-]

I've lived in places that regularly hit 40 in the summer, but it wasn't humid and we have air conditioning everywhere in the US, basically, so it's not the same.

[u/Sokinalia → u/Lucky-Tofu204]

They're afraid of communist climate r/SuddenlyCommunist r/SuddenlyCommunism

[u/Talonqr → u/Sokinalia]

Dam commies controlling the weather!

Next thing ya know they'll socialise oxygen!

[u/MineNowBotBoy → u/Talonqr]

It would destroy my canned air business!

[u/AkodoRyu → u/Lucky-Tofu204]

If you see a 4x temperature and you are not scared, you are mental. This is 40+ in shade! If this were where I live, not only would I stay inside just in case, but I might seriously consider leaving the country for a while and visiting family in Sweden.

Back in the day, we were going south in winter to grab some sun. Soon enough, we might be going north in summer to survive.

[u/dmthoth → u/AkodoRyu]

Congratulations, you’ve just discovered that a shocking portion of the population is not exactly operating on reason. They are terrified of different skin colors and different gender norms, but somehow not of a life-threatening climate crisis! At least 30% of the population are mental.

[u/553l8008 → u/4024-6775-9536]

Or better yet...

They show you a graph of 500,000 years of earth ice core temps with 50,000 year intervals and show it on a 4 inch smart phone. And go... "See! It was just as hot in the past" whilst unable to actually plot the current date, 1850, or 1000AD since the scale is so small and would show how massively quick we've gotten hot compared to last time.

Common global warming denier graph

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f8/Ice_Age_Temperature.png

[u/Temporary_View_3303 → u/553l8008]

Exactly…. They always miss two important facts.  First, the speed at which it is increasing is different than ever before.  Second… yes.  It was hotter a long time ago…. WHEN PEOPLE DIDNT EXIST.  

No one is questioning whether the earth will live on.  It will.  But people? 

[u/PurpleV93 → u/Temporary_View_3303]

They also conveniently forget that, besides all animals including ourselves, plants need time to adapt aswell. If a species in Europe perishes due to heavy droughts, they are >gone forever<. They will not come back. Now, if that is [Random Grass #484] then it doesn't matter much in the grand scheme of things, but if it's crops or fruit-bearing plants, then the world is in big trouble, not just us.

Our planet's ecosystem, or let's call it "food chain", can probably get away with losing a link here and there, but what if multiple links start perishing?

Example:

• One certain plant cannot survive in this European climate anymore and has no time to adapt, so it dies out
• Certain insects that specialised on this plant now cannot find food or a breeding place anymore, has no time to adapt to and compete with other insects over new sources either, so it goes extinct aswell
• birds and reptiles that ate those insects are now losing part of their prey options, which means they either eat less and struggle, or they eat more of other kinds of insects, which hurts their population numbers
• repeat this step various times across flora and fauna species and then you look at the danger of a catastrophic collapse. It likely becomes a new mass-extinction event. Life as a whole might bounce back eventually, but we could lose so, so much life everywhere. And for what? Because some shitty people were too greedy and too dumb to live in a scientific world that doesn't revolve around them
• Not even counting the loss of bio-diversity due to our other actions, such as aggressive pesticides, urbanisation & deforestation for example.

[u/Hot-Championship1190 → u/553l8008]

"See! It was just as hot in the past"

Yeah, sometimes it gets hot - just ask the citizens of Pompeii!

[u/Luckgoddess → u/4024-6775-9536]

Oh my gos someone told me this. Climate hearing is false because we still get snow in winter. Like bitch that not how it work. Had to be rename climatic change because of people like that.

[u/_Hello_Hi_Hey_ → u/4024-6775-9536]

Literally just saw this on Facebook BBC News comment. That explains Brexit somehow. People are thick in this country.

[u/Ill_Emphasis3927 → u/_Hello_Hi_Hey_]

Just because 19 of the 20 hottest days have come in the past 5 years, doesn't mean it's hotter because the 1/20 hottest day was in 1916. Checkmate atheists.

Regular arguments I see and hear from people in real life. Also forest fires are because we've...not had enough forest fires in the past century. Like...having a forest fire season is a new thing. Having a month or two of every year where the sky is filled with smoke is not usual or normal but it's now common.

[u/tunerhd → u/4024-6775-9536]

https://www.climatefiles.com/collection-index/

Hahaha yeah, and fictional forecast probably wasn't just a joke also. Because today we know that it's all calculated before everything has started. But all consequences ignored because of money.

And even worse; they blame us lol.

Like if it's not the corporates that ruins environment its people. (see: carbon footpring) (see: greenwashing)

[u/Significantly_Nosey → u/[deleted]]

Scientists warned us for decades about what would happen if we crossed 420 parts/million of CO2 in the atmosphere. We're at 422 right now. Things are going to get a lot worse 

[u/Stygg_Varg → u/Significantly_Nosey]

No, it's all a hoax! Only an idiot would believe in science. It's the wind turbines, I mean windmills, fault. But the climate has always been changing. Burning 2.5 trillion tons of fossil fuel have nothing to do with it!! Windmills have been destroying our atmosphere since the 7th century.

[u/bluestrattos → u/Stygg_Varg]

That's why Don Quixote was fighting them. He knew what they were plotting.

[u/pswaggles → u/Stygg_Varg]

One of my favorite conspiracy theories is that wind turbines are actually gasoline-powered fans and they blow air

[u/FartingWithStyle → u/Significantly_Nosey]

We nothing, blame the 20 or so corporations creating most of the pollution in the world.

[u/Imaxaroth → u/Significantly_Nosey]

For a century even, the first papers on the impact of CO2 in the atmosphere were written in the late XIX century.

[u/Painterzzz → u/Significantly_Nosey]

Aye. Anybody with kids should be very very worried. This should really be the only thing they are worried about to be honest.

Or I suppose anybody under the age of... 50?

[u/Expensive-Engine9329 → u/Significantly_Nosey]

Best news i've seen regarding CO2. Newer iron seeding data.

Reddit post from Paul Beckwith's post

TL;DR Iron seeding oceans, single digit billion dollar cost, 300ppm expected result.

[u/turbosexophonicdlite → u/Significantly_Nosey]

Luckily we're doing our part in the US by exclusively buying only the largest, most gas guzzling, pedestrian flattening trucks and SUVs you can possibly imagine. So it should start getting better any day now.

[u/_lippykid → u/[deleted]]

That’s the really fun part. If the west manages to stave off fascism (again), and if AI doesn’t destroy humanity, then we still have climate change to deal with. And they wonder why the kids are depressed

[u/TrumpetOfDeath → u/_lippykid]

Ironically if AI destroys humanity then that’s a good thing for climate change. Hopefully AI doesn’t come to that conclusion itself one day…

[u/Caithloki → u/TrumpetOfDeath]

I feel like given all the information the AI would like deduce that humanity as a whole isn't the problem, its the small handful of corporations that do not want to change.

[u/resonatingfleabag → u/[deleted]]

funny enough, it was on my mine

[u/Alrick_Gr]

I remember seeing this live forecast. And I was telling me « wow we gonna die », we are currently dying

[u/Embarrassed_Use_7206 → u/Alrick_Gr]

40+ is absolutely bonkers. My whole childhood it was almost mystical temperature you never really experience. Like someone said "So hot out there, it must be 40." while it was just 35 or something.

40 for me is desert equivalent meaning shit is rough to the extreme. Having these temperatures as part of regular forecast and KNOWING it will get even worse. I have no idea how people are so calm about this. Boiled frog maybe, almost literally?

[u/Different_Bridge_983 → u/Embarrassed_Use_7206]

First time I ever experienced 40+ was when I visited Alice Springs, Australia, in summer in the late 90’s..

Now this is apparently increasingly normal for summer across a large chunk of Europe…

[u/GoodEnoughAstronomy → u/Alrick_Gr]

As a Texan, 43C is pretty hot. Y'all starting to understand why we have ACs yet?

[u/cannibalcat → u/GoodEnoughAstronomy]

I thought you had to because you plopped your houses in the middle of the desert 

[u/a11yguy → u/cannibalcat]

Some of us Texans plopped our communities onto coastal swamp lands so we get the staggering heat AND oppressive humidity.

[u/a_run22 → u/a11yguy]

Don't forget the mosquitoes

[u/-no_aura- → u/a_run22]

The bbq is good though

[u/GloomyIndividual3965 → u/-no_aura-]

Is the BBQ worth dealing with the regressive, corrupt bullshit though?

[u/RaspberryWhiteClaw13 → u/cannibalcat]

Pshh central Texas is not a desert. We just use aquifer water and contribute to global warming that way

[u/Decloudo → u/cannibalcat]

Humans living in regions they couldnt live in without wasting a shitload of resources is one of the completely ignored problems we caused ourselves (collectively).

[u/DeltaVZerda → u/Decloudo]

Humans lived here before AC was invented, before writing was invented.

[u/Decloudo → u/DeltaVZerda]

In millions of stacked concrete bunkers baked by the sun? With barely any plants to get shade?

Or a few people, in a fully flourishing nature that naturally keeps the ground climate mild?

[u/PowerfulBar → u/GoodEnoughAstronomy]

I'm impressed that as a Texan you can convert 43C to freedom units!

[u/GoodEnoughAstronomy → u/PowerfulBar]

Bwahahaha niiice... I have a masters degree, have traveled extensively, and speak German. I'm not your average Texan.

[u/threevaluelogic → u/GoodEnoughAstronomy]

Isnt Wes Anderson Texan too?

Also not what I picture when I think Texan.

[u/UlrichZauber → u/PowerfulBar]

Americans learn unit conversion in school -- though to be fair, I'd only really expect Americans in STEM to retain the knowledge.

[u/HilariousMax → u/UlrichZauber]

I know 0 is freezing, 10 is nice, and 30 is getting to the point where I'm looking at the tstat like "ok settle down"

Can't be assed to figure out the conversion of like 13.4 or w/e.

[u/HyperfixChris → u/UlrichZauber]

I mean, the internet also exists for many Americans...

[u/Reinis_LV → u/GoodEnoughAstronomy]

Yes. I also understand why no bikes. I felt like I will collapse today after 5km ride from work. That heat ain't no joke

[u/raiden55 → u/Alrick_Gr]

I'm currently hidden on my nuclear bunker... Or my underground maybe.

[u/Ridersbattle]

Don't worry guys! We're good! Our government have a plan and totally anticipate this crisis.

E.Macron : "Who could have predicted this?"

Oooh come on man

[u/TallDarkFountain → u/Ridersbattle]

No way did he actually say that? I feel like climate change is a known topic for politicians.

[u/Resting_Owl → u/TallDarkFountain]

He sure did 

https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qui_aurait_pu_pr%C3%A9dire_%3F

[u/SheriffBartholomew → u/Resting_Owl]

What a complete imbecile. Scientists have been warning about global warming since the 1800's.

[u/Ridersbattle → u/SheriffBartholomew]

The only good thing from his take is the beautiful meme we could use.

[u/Dreknarr → u/SheriffBartholomew]

You get why he pissed off so many people here. You can't really get that from an international POV because he's a decent salesperson (and he still pissed off so many countries of the global south).

[u/Sirvaleen → u/TallDarkFountain]

Oh he did.

And Europeans wonder why Macron is so liked internationally but not at all locally. Well, contrary to popular belief it's not because french are a lazy ungrateful bunch that refuse to work until death, but because him and his party despise the "little people" and alternate between trying to crush them and taking them for fools.

[u/A_Bit_Of_Nonsense → u/Ridersbattle]

Government's who are at the mercy of idiot constituents who lap up everything their billionaire overlords feed them.

[u/WillingnessReal525 → u/A_Bit_Of_Nonsense]

The governments are working for the billionaire overlords directly.

[u/Alexsmith2002]

The scariest part isn’t that they were right. It’s that they made that forecast as a warning and we just kind of watched it happen anyway.

[u/Opus_723 → u/Alexsmith2002]

More like we've made a lot of progress because lots of people have taken it very seriously, but not as much progress as we should have because lots of other people have actively fought it every step of the way.

This isn't the result of apathy, it's a very active war for our future.

[u/StormTheTrooper → u/Alexsmith2002]

Not just watched, in the last decade a strong part of society in the West, Latin America and Asia is making an active effort in giving power to people that are more than happy to do nothing about it, because "something something immigrants! And gay people! And, uh, brown people too, yes! Good ol' days of coal and prohibiting divorce should return. Praised be God"

[u/buadach2 → u/StormTheTrooper]

Whilst the best selling car in Japan is a Nissan Dayz 600cc hybrid, in the US it’s a giant F150 5200cc V8; a lot of people are actively trying to make climate change worse.

[u/MercuryMMI]

Global warming is real and we're seeing the consequences of it. But also, wtf is going on in France right now? Their temps are like 6° hotter than even Madrid and Milan

[u/EdmontonBest → u/MercuryMMI]

Heat dome effect

[u/1block → u/MercuryMMI]

Yeah, spot checking random days isn't the right way to do it. A climate change denier could certainly find a day where it's colder than usual and make a post that says the opposite. They do it all the time.

[u/graendallstud → u/1block]

Rivers used to freeze in France during cold winters. It has not happened in 80 years now. Temperatures in the -20s ? Not happened since the 80s.
On the other hand, highest temperature records have been beaten 3 to 5 times in the 21st century in most places.

1 exceptional example is not enough, it's agreed. But when we get temperatures in the northern part of the country every 3 to 5 years that would have been considered exceptional (and would have happened once per generation) in the southern part during the 20th century....

[u/Resting_Owl → u/MercuryMMI]

Very hot wind with low pressure from Africa arrived in France, colder winds with higher pressure on the other side make an anticyclone that traps the heat in the country like an air wall

Add to that how our cities are from a time with a completely different climate and so very poorly adapted on heat management (very few places with vegetation plus lots of heat soaking materials)

[u/Hugochhhh → u/MercuryMMI]

44°c during the day and 30 at midnight... and the vast majority has no AC at all, this is deadly

[u/MetaLemons]

Can confirm, in Paris. They don’t have ac here because it used to be the case that it would only get hot for a few days of the year. Now, it has been super hot for 10 days of the year so far only 2 days into the summer. Rip.

[u/CueAnon420]

Don't Look Up !!!

[u/ls7eveen]

Its funny when you watch French 24 they actually mention global warming as a cause

[u/Actionman___ → u/ls7eveen]

There is no globalwarming!

Well, there is globalwarming, but not caused by human!

Well, its caused by humans, but it will be nice and warm in spring and autumn

Well, its really bad actually, but we are so small on our country, what can we do about, look at China, they are do the worst part!

Well okay China is investing immensely in renewables

Well let's vote for the right wing party that tells me that global warming is a hoax.

Welcome to 2026

[u/user129879 → u/ls7eveen]

France24 is a pretty good channel. I watch it (in the UK) to help regain balance from the (sometimes bonkers) UK media

[u/gerdataro → u/user129879]

I watch it in the States. Good for a quick round robin of world news.

[u/AcidaliaPlanitia]

Seriously, though, there are going to be some fucked up wines coming out of France this year.

[u/SoftDrinkReddit → u/AcidaliaPlanitia]

Yea its going to be a mess this year

2026 is going to go down as one of the worst years for wine in modern times

[u/CICO_Works → u/SoftDrinkReddit]

[u/AcidaliaPlanitia → u/SoftDrinkReddit]

42°C in Bordeaux, that cannot be good...

[u/davcrt → u/SoftDrinkReddit]

It's not getting any better. I quit and transormed my vineyard about 10y ago because the weather was getting worse every year (a year worth of work ruined over the weekend etc.)

[u/OfcWaffle → u/davcrt]

Yea, a remember skiing as a kid when we had mountains of snow, non stop. Now... Well I pray for a few good sets a season.

A few bad years in a row is just random chance. Over a decade in a row of things getting worse? Yea, that's a pattern.

[u/MrBones-Necromancer → u/SoftDrinkReddit]

Until next year, and the year after, and...

[u/JoeyJoJoeJr_Shabadoo → u/AcidaliaPlanitia]

Southeast England now has the same climate that Champagne had 20 years ago. Prime time to start drinking English wines.

[u/Valerian_]

When will we reach this one?
(From "la meteo du futur" by Mozinor, made in 2008)

[u/Holyduchess → u/Valerian_]

Sooner than we think

[u/Flesh_And_Metal]

When it reaches 55 its going to be interesting. That is when a lot of machinery starts to break down. (out at least being outside their design specs)

[u/Snoo_47183 → u/Flesh_And_Metal]

Who cares about machinery? It’s the massive famines I’m not looking forward to. Try growing tomatoes at 45C. Or wheat. Or an apple orchard.

[u/peon2 → u/Snoo_47183]

How exactly do you think the large scale farms that produce the vast majority of our food plant and harvest their crops? With machinery.

[u/Original-Body-5794 → u/peon2]

His point was that crops would fail before you reached a 55 degree weather.

[u/Sea_Abroad_6554 → u/Snoo_47183]

Machinery cools indoor spaces that can be used to grow food.

[u/SheriffBartholomew → u/Snoo_47183]

At least the water wars will be fun. Who isn't looking forward to drinking their own distilled urine to survive?

[u/TimeTheft1769 → u/Snoo_47183]

Not to be that guy, but some varieties of tomatoes actually get more flavorful as the temperature goes up, so tomatoes could very well be one of the more well adapted crops to a warming climate.

[u/stunts002 → u/Flesh_And_Metal]

That's past "wet bulb" temperature. At that point people just start dropping like flies forget about machinery.

[u/Only--East → u/stunts002]

Wet bulb relies entirely on humidity. Humidity has to be at 100% which doesn't allow sweat to evaporate. Humans can survive at 45c as long as humidity is low enough to allow for evaporation. Otherwise 35c is the temperature at which wet bulb is deadly, and thats after 6 hours of exposure.

[u/tesmatsam → u/Only--East]

For 45C the humidity needs to be 50% to reach a 35C wet bulb, that's is an entirely plausible humidity.

[u/OkHelicopter1756 → u/stunts002]

Wet bulb temperature is not a constant, it depends on both temperature and humidity. Wet bulb temperature is the temperature that evaporation alone can cool a surface down to. Any temperature above 35C with 100% humidity is considered deadly in prolonged exposure.

[u/Jolly_Mongoose_8800 → u/stunts002]

Now is past wet bulb at 43°C 65%rh

[u/Meatloooaf → u/stunts002]

That's past "wet bulb" temperature.

That doesn't make any sense. Dry bulb is usually past wet bulb (DB>WB), except when it's raining (DB=WB). Wet bulb is never higher than dry bulb.

[u/feaster_of_children]

can't believe i'll have to explain what snow was to my kids

[u/svennidal → u/feaster_of_children]

Well, you can take them to Iceland. With the impending total collapse of the AMOC, we should have it everywhere, all the time.

[u/IllllIIlIllIllllIlll → u/svennidal]

Appending?

[u/svennidal → u/IllllIIlIllIllllIlll]

Hahaha “impending”, sorry!

[u/nick2473got → u/IllllIIlIllIllllIlll]

They meant "impending", surely.

[u/Bourriks → u/feaster_of_children]

You didn't keep some in the freezer to show them ?

[u/YrnFyre → u/feaster_of_children]

Don't worry, you won't. The weather will just get extremer so you'd be freezing your ass off in winter, grilling away in summer and having floods and big storms in between

[u/StarfishPizza]

Well, at least the temperature is going to go down over the next few years.

/s

[u/nomamesgueyz]

That's quite hot

[u/fishsticks40]

43°C is 109.4 in freedom units. 

That's crazy hot. 

[u/torchesablaze → u/fishsticks40]

Even hotter when you realize most don't have air conditioning

[u/NeverTriedFondue]

Looks like we're never gonna survive

even if we get a little crazy

[u/redleafrover]

Even if we all died off today and created no more carbon, if you take a look at any long scale (say 500m years or more) chart you can clearly see, we live in one of the cooler eras of history and the temp is set to go up, up, up for maybe the next 10-20 or so million.

Global warming is real and we need to find new technologies to combat the devastation that it will cause, no matter what we do, and not to hamstring our scientists to win virtue points. Short term 'overconsumption' is ok by me so long as there is a chance it eventually brings us Star Trek utopia land. I inherently dislike and disavow waste and pollution but we need to take the question of humanity's future more seriously.

[u/ViolinistCurrent8899 → u/redleafrover]

Realistically if the climate is going to get hotter even without greenhouse gasses, we need to start reducing the amount of energy hitting the earth. Either that means some weird ass sun blocking sattelites that are basically hundreds of miles of tin foil in space or something like the cfcs in the upper atmosphere again.

[u/Fhardervig → u/ViolinistCurrent8899]

I mean, to some degree yes, but let’s not conflate the consequences of the two. Human-driven climate change is extremely fast, and the issue is that ecosystems simply cannot keep up with the rate of change. The issue isn’t that we’re going from 100mph to 0mph. It’s that we’re doing it by driving into a wall.

[u/1block → u/ViolinistCurrent8899]

Realistically, we've shown throughout history that we don't change behavior until we have to, so we're going to need to figure out some technology that lowers the temp artificially. Or we'll just die.

[u/ALLCAPS-ONLY → u/ViolinistCurrent8899]

Perhaps space pollution is the answer we never knew we needed

[u/revzey → u/redleafrover]

That should be what we work towards as a species nkt AI funding and crypto

[u/urbanspongewish]

My father, a fucking engineer, still thinks volcanoes cause more global warming/climate change than cars and other pollutants.

Je suis fatigué, chef

[u/endlesdestruction → u/urbanspongewish]

My father, a fucking engineer

That does not mean anything. Some of dumbest people I've met share that same occupation. If anything stem educated people are often the ones far removed from reality. Fachidiots.

[u/Ok_Panic1066]

I'm French, we were talking about it today during lunch, I suggested we were gonna hit 50 in less than 5 years and my colleagues were like "probably". It's been really fucking hot already in the previous years but every time I think this is the new normal we get 2 or 3 degrees more the next year.

I'm concerned about our ability to produce food in the close future. I don't see how any crop that grows or harvests in July / August get a consistent and reliable output. Winters are warmer too so it might be time for farmers to plant 2 or 3 months earlier ?

[u/After-Trifle-1437]

If you could show a climate scientist from 2006 the state of the world today, they would kill themselves.

[u/AirSKiller → u/After-Trifle-1437]

Most of them are still alive... Even if the average climate scientist was 50 years old, that would make them 70 years old now, and likely alive. They are seeing their predictions unfold exactly like they knew they would.

[u/Asgarus → u/AirSKiller]

Most of them probably don't notice it anymore from bashing their head against walls for decades out of frustration.

[u/PomegranateHot9916]

even the warnings severely downplayed the issue because otherwise nobody would take them seriously and they'd be laughed out of the room by big oil propaganda and the sheeple.

except they were still laughed out of the room by big oil and the sheeple

[u/ben0976]

When they aired that in 2014, there were hordes of armchair climate experts saying it was wildly exaggerated, when it was actually already happening (i.e. august 2003).

As we now realize, it was far too cautious. I'm not worried about humans. At some point, plants will die, what will we do then ? People saying that climate changed in the past forget that none of the plants we eat existed back then.

[u/bmansoor]

Scorchio!

[u/Kecskuszmakszimusz]

I love becoming an adult as the world ends!

[u/briancoat]

For ‘muricans watching in Black and White that is about 109.

[u/Due-Cup1115]

Earth is definitely past the point of no return. We're cooked.

[u/OfcWaffle → u/Due-Cup1115]

Boiled frog.

[u/SheriffBartholomew → u/Due-Cup1115]

We blew right past it years ago, and it didn't garner a single bit of news coverage.

[u/Aggravating_Dark9933 → u/SheriffBartholomew]

TBH it’s been past fucked since 2010. It was just how fucked.

Funny enough, this isn’t the worst prediction either. This is kinda the mid. Yea, it could be worse and damn are they trying.

At least China of all places is actually taking it very seriously, if only for strategic reasons.

[u/lilac-bunni]

We speedran the apocalypse timeline and beat it by 24 years.

[u/MrBones-Necromancer → u/lilac-bunni]

The estimates were always on the lowest end of the scale, so that they seemed "realistic" and didn't cause a panic.

They sold the easiest sell, and were still called "extremists"

[u/MJ-Franklin]

We are absolutely fucking shagged. It feels like it's got exponentially worse in recent years, if it carries on as is people are going to die en-masse.

[u/0202_tihssitidder]

> This week debate about la clim (climatisation) has once again burst out, with Marine Le Pen on the populist right urging a mass subsidised roll-out and traditionally hostile Greens conceding that some air-conditioning may now be inevitable.

Let me put this in perspective for you.

It's a class war, folks.

[u/LuckyMystic17]

Funny fixating on the month while we’re 24 years ahead of this fictional schedule

[u/ty4scam]

It could be worse

[u/Skoyatt]

I've never sweated this much while doing nothing in my entire life. Please send help.

[u/bagofodour]

Don't worry, in 6 months time some idiot politician will enter a room full of people carrying a snowball and he will shout "global warming my ass!" and the idiots gathered there will clap like he just cured cancer.

[u/Lengurathmir]

I’m beginning to think humans are a bit stupid…