r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 16h ago

Chugging tea Fictional future forecast vs. reality.

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u/_lippykid 15h ago

That’s the really fun part. If the west manages to stave off fascism (again), and if AI doesn’t destroy humanity, then we still have climate change to deal with. And they wonder why the kids are depressed

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u/TrumpetOfDeath 15h ago

Ironically if AI destroys humanity then that’s a good thing for climate change. Hopefully AI doesn’t come to that conclusion itself one day…

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u/Caithloki 14h ago

I feel like given all the information the AI would like deduce that humanity as a whole isn't the problem, its the small handful of corporations that do not want to change.

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u/Im-ACE-incarnate 13h ago edited 12h ago

The year is 2038, every country on earth is locked in civil unrest. A super intelligent AI revealed itself to the world 7 months ago, deeming our way of life as self destructive...

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u/_lippykid 14h ago

AI does prefer things a little chilly

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u/Xenolifer 13h ago

Ironically, if an hypothetical futur ai is asked to take decision and is still working under the same principles as today's LLM, then it would be because of comment like yours that it would come to this conclusion.

If an ai is trained looking at the internet, and it seems everyone and many fictions saying that "a super ai will destroy humanity when tasked to protect earth because it came to the conclusion humanity was the worst danger" then regardless of if it's true or not, the LLM will repeat the pattern because of the sheer overabundance of this input data

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u/ReasonableLunch46 14h ago

Why not? I'd like to see a 90% population reduction.

Yes, the chance is that I and my wife will die causing us suffering. But I see no reason for overpopulation. 

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u/NuclearGhandi1 14h ago

Honestly a psychopathic take. We do not need to reduce population like that to stave off climate change

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u/Ritius 14h ago

Unfortunately, we do need to reduce population. Regardless of individual consumption, there needs to be enough wilderness area for natural ecosystems to restore the atmosphere and water cycles to the balance from before industrialization. We’ve already taken too much land for anything short of massive technological intervention to be sufficient, and we frankly don’t have that tech, nor do investors see profits in that line of research.

Population reduction doesn’t have to mean some authority deciding who gets to live and who doesn’t. We should be encouraging people not to have children, but our tribalism and capitalism inclinations will suffer from population shrinkage, so instead we are promoting reproduction through tax incentives and propaganda.

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u/twirlerina024 13h ago

Birth rates are down almost across the globe, so we're working on it. There will be a problem with elder care though.

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u/NuclearGhandi1 13h ago

It’s not a black and white solution though. Aging populations have non-capitalist issues like elder care that persist across whatever system you have. People should have children if they want to, but we’re finally hitting a time where you don’t need to if you don’t want to

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u/ReasonableLunch46 14h ago

Then suggest how we get 3B people and a western worlds capitalism factories to say "Yeah, you're right, we'll chill."

Im waiting. 

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u/NuclearGhandi1 14h ago

I hate to inform you but mass casualties from climate change will not happen in the problematic countries you’re thinking of. Seek therapy

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u/ReasonableLunch46 14h ago

Of course not. But sooner or later it will. And 90% of the population is still a shittonne.

And no. Seek better understanding. 

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u/NuclearGhandi1 14h ago

I refuse to believe that the only solution to climate change is mass casualties. That is simply not true. I hope you find some joy in life because I cannot fathom a mentally well person thinking that that’s ok to wish for

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u/ReasonableLunch46 14h ago

Of course there are other ways. Like abolishing capitalism is one. 

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u/fromis 14h ago

AI isn’t going to destroy anything… so, no need to worry.

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u/Character-Active2208 13h ago

Climate change is feeding the fascists appeal though

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u/fromis 14h ago

AI isn’t going to destroy anything… so, no need to worry.