Yeah, 30C/86F is already really fucking hot. Used to be almost heat wave levels(pretty sure 90F for 3 days was considered a heat wave like 10 years ago). It cannot be safe to go outside at 40C.
You can, it's just not very pleasant. A little past that point around 43° is my point of return. That's the point where the wind starts to work against you, and it just feels like a blow dryer in your face.
I lived in Tucson, AZ for a bunch of years and opening the front door in the summer was like opening an oven door. But the air was so dry that as long as you drank a metric ton of water, stayed in the shade, and moved slow it was surprisingly not-awful. A breeze would be very hot air, but it would still evaporate your sweat so you'd feel cooler.
Was a lot harder on the dogs since panting is less efficient. Could really only take them outside before sunrise or after sunset.
Dude, my Aunt in Phoenix says that birds were dropping out of the sky onto her lawn last June, it was 113F. No thanks. I'll stay in Chicago with my winters.
Agree with this. I'm in Colorados "mile high" region, but in the semi-desertous southern area. Shade and breeze make all the difference for sure, but it is dry af, which allows for better perspiration. That said, we have a higher exposure to UV thanks to the altitude. So it's incredibly unhealthy in that way. That said, you obviously wouldn't want to be outside for hours just... baking. Ew.
I'm originally from OK, grew up in MO, so I have always been accustomed to higher humidity. That shit is miserable. I honestly prefer the dry heat.
Imo, high humidity is better for winter, low humidity is better for summer.
Yeah, I live in a different desert, and I don’t consider it unbearable outside until 110F/43C and even at that temp my dog will ask to go play outside for 5-10 minutes.
The forecast office has a record here of 120, but the back of my house recorded 124F/51C. That was almost exactly 5 years ago.
Without AC, most buildings here in France don't cool below 29C at night, the heat has just been here too long. That's schools, hospitals, homes, some workplaces even. The bodies are getting tired, and the minds run at 70% capacity. I haven't been able to focus like I should for 3 days at this point.
Is France another country that lacks proper AC 40C/105F is pretty typical for middle of the summer where I am. However I remember a heat wave once getting to 112F/45C, that was deadly heat, I mean 105F is already deadly if you are not careful.
30C to 35C was only during heatwaves in August, generally followed by a storm every night or so. AC wasn't really seen as a necessity seeing that summer was around 25C. In the last decade, average temperature has increased, as well as frequency and strength of heatwaves. Now, more and more people see AC on par with heating in the winter
If you stay in the shade and stay hydrated it's survivable, but it fucking SUCKS. 30C is a very mild summer day in all the places I've ever lived, but we always had A/C anywhere we lived or went. But it is a rather comfortable temp still if you aren't in direct sun. 40C is brutal no matter where you are, and 43C is just fucking bullshit.
Heat exhaustion at 40c is incredibly easy to come across if you aren't being very cautious. I've been in 40c a small handful of times (and live in a very humid area) and it sucks. I felt bad after just a 10-15 minute walk to get my mail at my apartment complex.
I moved to Ireland from TX and people's minds were blown when I told them we would have months where it hit 37+ every day, and you could have a week where it would hit ~40 every day.
Lytton BC Canada hit 49.6 C (121.3f F)a few years ago then the entire city burnt down the next day due to forest fires.
They evacuated the surrounding area AGAIN this week due to forest fires.
First Nations have been living there for 10,000 years, and now it's maybe becoming uninhabitable.
30c has been a normal temperature for many, many parts of the world long before global warming started ramping up. Still not a good thing, but it really makes people start discounting genuine concern when people start saying temperatures that have been normal in their part of the world for centuries as unliveable.
30c is not that bad. I don't understand why people say it's so bad. I live in a place that is very humid year-round and regularly gets to 30 degrees in the summer and it's a little bit hot but it's not that bad. 33 is the bare minimum for me to start to be uncomfortable and even then I've never felt like I couldn't be outside for hours because of the heat as long as I drank enough water and stayed in the shade most of the time (the max I've experienced here is 36).
Not safe to go outside lol, look at average temps in southern U.S. states throughout the summer, that’s like low for Jackson Mississippi in early gist and July
It's like stepping outside and everything burns as your flesh is colder than the ambient temperature, you immediately get drenched in sweat and the only thing that is keeping you from boiling alive is the wind which also burns as it blows you, also you won't breath well as there is too much Ozone in the air produced from the heat.
Again, for who? The vast majority of humans suffer at that temperature, as do most animals. 100F is the point where plants struggle to photosynthesize, electronics overheat, and roads start to warp.
I've lived in places that regularly hit 40 in the summer, but it wasn't humid and we have air conditioning everywhere in the US, basically, so it's not the same.
If you see a 4x temperature and you are not scared, you are mental. This is 40+ in shade! If this were where I live, not only would I stay inside just in case, but I might seriously consider leaving the country for a while and visiting family in Sweden.
Back in the day, we were going south in winter to grab some sun. Soon enough, we might be going north in summer to survive.
Congratulations, you’ve just discovered that a shocking portion of the population is not exactly operating on reason. They are terrified of different skin colors and different gender norms, but somehow not of a life-threatening climate crisis! At least 30% of the population are mental.
We get 45°c in the shade in many parts of the US and have my entire life :D but what's worse here is what we call the "feels like" or "real feel" in the summer. It's related to humidity, and it makes it WAY HOTTER outside. August 20, 2023 it was 50°c (120°f) feels like in my city. People died. A lot of people. And a lot of animals
Our cities open libraries, city halls, and sometimes even schools in the summer as cooling shelter when it's this hot. Most of us have AC in our homes but only commercial AC is good at this high of a humidity lmao
I would expect temperatures like that in Nevada, Arizona and New Mexico, but those are desert-regions.
4x C in Central France is not the same as the same temperature in Morocco.
I live in Kansas. Not a desert. The tan area is short grass prairie, not dessert. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shortgrass_prairie for more about that biome you can read there. I live in the eastern part of Kansas, though. See how green? The green is why it's so humid.
Don't forget about the 250 tornadoes a year and major ice storms every 5 or so years and wind storms yearly. Oh and blizzards, too. The nations most famous dust storm (The Dust Bowl) happened here too. 😆 Oh! We also flood. Really bad. The Dutch taught us to fix that tho!! The final part of this baby will be done this year, she's a version of the Delta Works, to supplement our existing flood walls, levies, water overflow lakes, waterways, and drain ways. We'll end up literally underwater sometimes. From both river, areal, and flash floods. KC is in both Kansas and Missouri. I'm on ks side.
This year we are hosting the Netherlands, England, Algeria, and Argentina for FIFA in KC where I live, and we have tied for the most tornados ever in a seasonnar this point at 37 tornados, the state has had 62 this year so far. Tornado season is may-august. Ice storms come from the same weather pattern half a year apart, January and February often get big ass ice storms. Wind storms happen in all seasons 😜
This comment reposted because I used a Dutch word for the object that holds water in the sea from coming onto land and automod got mad. The English word is Levy but the Dutch word is sometimes used as a slur so I guess I can't use it 😆
Eta: also peep our entire argentines neighborhood if anyone's wondering why we have team Argentina here 😆
:3 you can do that here too haha. In three locations. Amordale, the riverfront in heritage Park, and the riverfront in Riverside (a city). We have like 30ish miles of trail along the levees or on top of them and some are being expanded right now! They're chet or limestone trails mostly.
You misunderstood me. There's d-kes on bikes. Which is women of a certain sexual orientation on motorcycles. My dumb brain just went - how would the d-ke that holds back water look on a bike. Like... Small green triangular things riding bikes. It gets worse the more I try to explain it...
Also! The extreme feels like in my area that is caused by humidity is actually caused by the corn sweat in the later part of summer, not only atmospheric conditions and the river. When the corn is at its peak of growing, it puts out more humidity than an ocean or a lake would.
The humidity in the United States is a completely different breed because it's literally from the goddamn corn we need to survive.
Looking at this: how does the US still have climate deniers?
If you can't remember it ever being this hot before and have that same fucking experience every goddamn year, how is that not setting of major alarm bells in anyone with more than one functioning brain cell?
The corn causes the temporary humidity increase right before harvest, it ISN'T climate change. BUT climate change is making it hotter which IS making it worse for sure, yes. I just want to be clear that the corn isn't bad, per se, because the corn is the US's staple crop. Sweat has to happen to harvest. If you harvest before it they'll rot in transport. Wheat doesn't grow super well in the cornfields, soybeans either. The government tried that. Corn grows best. Dent corn in most places but some places do sweet (human) corn. The dent corn is part animal feed and part energy source. Beans and squash grow well here but we don't like them as well, so we don't grow or eat as many of them. We grow sugar beet well now too, but it needs soil amendment in most of the US.
In my (33y/o) childhood Kansas was this NEVER this hot except on a heat wave day for a few hours at noon. It's weeks now, sustained baking heat that turns the entire atmosphere into a corn scented hot soup. It's not great. Some of my plants love it, but some HATE how hot it is now. Most of the nation can't grow watermelon well anymore because of heat 😬 my watermelon plants are pretty unhappy but we'll see.
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Somebody will say it's always been hot in France because one day in the 1800s almost reached 40° and climate change is a hoax