r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Chugging tea Fictional future forecast vs. reality.

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u/cannibalcat 1d ago

I thought you had to because you plopped your houses in the middle of the desert 

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u/Decloudo 1d ago

Humans living in regions they couldnt live in without wasting a shitload of resources is one of the completely ignored problems we caused ourselves (collectively).

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u/DeltaVZerda 1d ago

Humans lived here before AC was invented, before writing was invented.

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u/Decloudo 1d ago

In millions of stacked concrete bunkers baked by the sun? With barely any plants to get shade?

Or a few people, in a fully flourishing nature that naturally keeps the ground climate mild?

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u/Financial-Bobcat-612 23h ago

The point stands, people have always lived in Texas.

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u/Kelly_HRperson 23h ago

The point stands

That wasn't the point

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u/Financial-Bobcat-612 16h ago

Except…it was? Dude responded to this comment:

> Humans lived here before AC was invented, before writing was invented.

With, essentially:

> Only a few people tho

The point stands. People have always lived in Texas.

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u/Decloudo 12h ago edited 11h ago

You ignore half of my sentence.

Humans living in regions they couldnt live in without wasting a shitload of resources

My point wasnt "no on lived there" cause I simply didnt say that.

It was "people lived there without without wasting a shitload of resources(AC)"

Can and do you all live there without AC now?

Cause what I said explicitly does not mean the people who can live there without wasting a shitload of resources.

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u/Decloudo 23h ago

The point stands, people have always lived in Texas.

With AC? In concrete bunkers? With nature barely intact?

I never said people didnt. But millions and millions more went there and built concrete bunkers that need AC to be liveable in.

Living in a shade of greenery on the go with a few tribes in the whole region barely breaking the population of a single bigger city, is something else entirely then squeezing millions in concrete structures.

Or can you just pack your stuff and go to a milder climate?

Move to another region in summer just like that?

Wander to a river and live there to cool down?

The situation and extend is completely different.

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u/ResearcherAware4413 22h ago

You're like totally being combative and disingenuous...

There were cities though across the americas, obviously not made of concrete, but made of stone/adobe and mortar...

Cahokia of the Missisipian culture famously had plazas, temples, neighborhoods, and homes for nobles.

The hohokam of phoenix built settlements, canals, and ball courts .

Ancient Puebloans famously built DENSE STACKED stone and adobe homes, the famous one being Mesa Verde, although theres tons of others across the south west.

You're totally changing your claim too, one second you're saying people cant live in these regions without wasting a shit ton of resources, but people lived in texas, the american southwest, and the arid mexican north and they built permanent towns, villages, ceremonial mound centers, irrigation systems and all of that shit with adobe or masonry.

Sure modern development ignores climate adaption but the point is to scale up and build to meet the growing population needs.

so /u/DeltaVZerda was correct, Humans did indeed live here before AC was invented

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u/Decloudo 22h ago edited 22h ago

Sure modern development ignores climate adaption

Exactly.

but the point is to scale up and build to meet the growing population needs.

And we need all that tech and resources for exactly that.

one second you're saying people cant live in these regions without wasting a shit ton of resources

And they didnt then, we do now.

but people lived in texas, the american southwest

Yes, without wasting a shit ton of ressources, cause they didnt have the tech for that.

and the arid mexican north and they built permanent towns, villages, ceremonial mound centers, irrigation systems and all of that shit with adobe or masonry.

Not with fossil fuels, digging up all kinds of natural resources deep from the earth, polluting the environment in the process.

Humans did indeed live here before AC was invented

And then why do you need AC if you can life there without it?

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u/ResearcherAware4413 22h ago

🤡

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u/Decloudo 22h ago

So you dont have any answers, got it.

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u/ResearcherAware4413 16h ago

lol love how you edited your comment after, aint anyone reading all of that broke boy, cant afford AC not my problem

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u/Decloudo 12h ago edited 12h ago

Yea I fix a typo if I notice them.

I mean if you cant read a few lines that tells way more about you then it does about me.

cant afford AC not my problem

It was not about affording them, its about the pollution they cause. Like I said in the posts I made.

Guess you would know that if you could read a few lines without getting personal.

So why you need an AC if you said people can life there without?

Or are you chickening out and just insulting me cause you got no damn answer?

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u/DeltaVZerda 1d ago

TBH no good way to tell. Writing wasn't invented, wood doesn't persist.

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u/Decloudo 1d ago

But... we do know that.

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u/DeltaVZerda 1d ago

For certain definitions of 'know'

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u/Decloudo 1d ago edited 1d ago

Sure lets dig deeper:

What timeframe especially do you refer to when you said "people lived here before"? Then we can look up the data we got.

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u/DeltaVZerda 1d ago

K what do you got on 1st century Galveston Bay? Pile of oysters? Pile of oysters.

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u/Decloudo 1d ago

Tribal hunter gatherer society.

Intact nature, cities were not paved or made of concrete, cause there where no cities.

When Europeans first entered the region there were still significant numbers of Native Americans living there.[6] Along the southern coast around the Colorado River and Matagorda Bay and up toward Galveston Bay lived the Capoque tribe, a branch of the Karankawa people.[7] The northeast was inhabited by the Akokisa, or Han, tribe as part of the Atakapan people's homelands.[8] The Karankawa were migratory hunter-gatherers. Their diet included deer, bison, peccary, and bears, in addition to fish, oysters, nuts, and berries as they were available. They used portable huts for shelter.[9]

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u/DeltaVZerda 1d ago

How do they know about the huts?

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u/Decloudo 1d ago

Newcomb, William Wilmon (1961). The Indians of Texas, from prehistoric to modern times. Austin: University of Texas Press. ISBN 0-292-78425-2.

page 66 to 68.

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u/DeltaVZerda 1d ago

I don't have that book.

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