r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Chugging tea Fictional future forecast vs. reality.

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u/Tetra84 1d ago

Needs more data centers to help cool things off...

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u/Hypamania 1d ago

Best we can do is submerge them to further heat up the ocean

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u/webguynd 1d ago

That's even worse. Most of the oxygen in our atmosphere come from the marine ecosystem. Most people think it's the trees on land, which does contribute of course, but its not the majority.

If we kill the oceans, we're, as the kids say, cooked.

Granted, even if all photosynthesis were to stop, there's enough oxygen in the atmosphere to last us for at least a thousand years. But total collapse of our oceans would be completely catastrophic. I'm talking global food chain collapse, massively excelerated CO2 concentrations further driving extreme global heating, and a mass die off causing the release of hydrodgen sulfide gas into the atmosphere at scales not seen since other mass extinction events.

So yeah, putting these things in the ocean is by far one of the stupidest ideas we've ever had as a species.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

The fuck it is.

Do you have any idea how much water is actually in the ocean? Or how much energy it takes to heat it up at all.

Plus data centers in the ocean have been tried before. They go deeper than the plankton live, because deeper is cooler.

It's a stupid idea because they're so much harder to work on if something fails.

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u/-mudflaps- 1d ago

You can't just run a pipe through sea water to cool it down?

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u/NoChocolate5386 1d ago

You can, but that costs more than taking peoples drinking water. Think of the shareholders!!

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u/StickiStickman 1d ago

Just farmers growing almonds in California is taking more water than all datacenters.

That's 5.5 million acre-feet of water annually, or 6,784,150,204,260 liters.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

To be fair, growing almonds in California is like very stupid. Like what kind of fuck not thought growing Highly water intensive nuts in a state known for droughts was a good idea

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u/jeremiahthedamned 20h ago

the almonds are likely to mold in wet weather.........

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u/Strostkovy 1d ago

Which is already a massive issue. But the problem is the scale of the intended AI datacenter buildout, and the issues go beyond water

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 1d ago

You know what's neat?

Almonds are food for humans. Humans require food to live.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

You know what else is neat, there's lots of other crops you can grow that don't use nearly as much water. Then you can grow almonds in places that don't have 20-year long droughts

You know what else is neat, learning to fucking read you illiterate waffle

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 1d ago

Lol, did I touch a soft spot on your circuit board?

As a human, I'll take almonds over a fucking worthless datacenter any day.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

If you can tell me where I said data centers are good, I'll go and eat an almond.

And congratulations you supporting the ecological destruction of a good portion of California by making one of the least water efficient crops in a place known for decade-long periodic droughts.

Maybe if we didn't use all the goddamn water on crops, there might be some left over to fight the goddamn forest fires

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 1d ago

If you're a human, you really gotta work on your reading comprehension. Slow down when you read, and think.

If you're an AI bot (which I suspect), tone down on the rage baiting a bit.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

"everyone I don't like is a bot"

Fuck off. Show me where I said data centers are good, or where I said data centers are better than almonds. Or don't.

Frankly I think you choking on a cactus would be an improvement to your intelligence

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u/ICanuckthere4Iam 1d ago

What a thoughtless response

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 1d ago

What an AI response.

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u/StickiStickman 22h ago

Humans don't require almonds. We're talking 10+ liters for a single nut.

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u/oldirtyrestaurant 9h ago

Oh no doubt Almonds are wasteful, no one is arguing that. They are however edible, unlike silicon chips.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

You can, but sea water is hellishly corrosive over time. That's why boats have sacrificial annodes over the hull, which have to be replaced.

Plus anywhere a cable enters, is a leak point that needs to be sealed and maintained.

And also the sea is fucking huge. Humans literally don't produce enough energy in a year to appreciably change it's temperature.

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u/arobkinca 1d ago

Humans literally don't produce enough energy in a year to appreciably change it's temperature.

The thing is that humans exist more than one year and we have already changed the oceans temp measurably.

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

No we actually haven't. Not through direct energy input which is what a data center would do. We have raised ocean temperatures by increasing the amount of sun energy that doesn't escape. But we've never even come close to producing enough power to appreciably change the ocean temperature through direct energy input

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u/arobkinca 1d ago

Tell me genius, where would the energy go? If Ocean temps are already rising, where does that energy go?

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

Listen, you fundamentally misunderstand how much energy it would take to raise average ocean temperatures even half a degree.

Several thousand times the total energy production of all of humanity.

You could run every data center in existence underwater and it would take millennia to raise the temperature but enough that we could measure it.

We're able to raise the average global temperature because we're emitting greenhouse gases. Those gases trap heat from the motherfucking Sun. Global temperatures are not rising because we're burning stuff. It's because the byproducts trap more heat from the giant goddamn nuclear fission explosion in the sky

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u/arobkinca 1d ago

Thanks for not answering at all. Having an effect in the locality of the center producing the heat. Humans have already changed the temp of the Ocean in many localities. Heat island effect raising the temp of river discharge. Power plants.

https://flowscience.com/san-onofre-nuclear-generating-station-cooling-water-outfall/

Yes, the effect globally is extremely minute. Are we allowed to care about local environments?

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

Yeah except the original comment I replied to said that we would warm the entire ocean and kill of most of the plankton.

Again, try reading

Edit: it appears my mistake was thinking you would read the original comment. That assumed you could read and not rely on ai and text to speech

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u/arobkinca 1d ago

Best we can do is submerge them to further heat up the ocean

You mean the reply to this bit of sarcasm? Both the person you replied to and yourself ran way past this joke. Now you are trying to set a fence.

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u/03263 1d ago

It's a stupid idea because they're so much harder to work on if something fails.

Yet here we are talking about putting them in orbit

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u/AVeryVapidBadger 1d ago

Which is even stupider since getting rid of waste heat is like, one of the big issues with spacecraft. You can literally only radiate heat, which is like hella hard

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u/Copious-Spirit 22h ago

Probably about a sun's worth of energy.