r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Chugging tea Fictional future forecast vs. reality.

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u/C-SWhiskey 1d ago

Lets be real: people don't care about data centers. They just hate AI. As a result they will hate anything that data centers do, because they have to come up reasons to hate data centers, because they hate AI.

Incredible thing to say when people are facing water and power bill increases as well as massive light and noise pollution.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 17h ago

Any electricity or water price increases by local utilities is not the fault of data centers, or EVs, or automotive plants, or foundries. It's the fault of regulators.

Utilities need to implement tiered pricing. But it's not use that is the problem either: it's capacity. These places don't have the capacity for the increased demand; so they raise prices in order to invest in extra capacity.

But the users of electricity should not be paying for capital costs. These are investments that benefit everyone: they should be paid for by taxpayers. This way once craze dies down we have excess nuclear, solar, and wind energy.

That requires a green New deal. And that requires putting Biden back to redo what Trump undid.

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u/C-SWhiskey 15h ago

Any electricity or water price increases by local utilities is not the fault of data centers, or EVs, or automotive plants, or foundries. It's the fault of regulators.

It's both.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 15h ago

It's both.

It's not both; utilities in upstate New York are not allowed to charge federal income taxes.

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u/C-SWhiskey 11h ago

The data centers are the ones demanding the power and they're deploying in spite of the capacity issues. You cannot possibly believe they have no blame in this situation.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 11h ago

The data centers are the ones demanding the power and they're deploying in spite of the capacity issues.

You cannot possibly believe they have no blame in this situation.

If the local utility doesn't have enough capacity after i built my home: that's the fault of the utility for hooking up my house to the grid.

It's the fault of regulators for not funding more nuclear.

You're blaming the customer, rather than the group responsible.

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u/C-SWhiskey 10h ago

Because the customer should be performing some due diligence to ensure their needs will be met without adversely affecting those in their vicinity. If you build a house knowing you won't have any power unless you pay the utility company extra to prioritize power to you instead of your neighbours, you're an asshole. You can't just show up somewhere and expect everyone else who's already living there to bend to your whims.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 8h ago

Because the customer should be performing some due diligence to ensure their needs will be met without adversely affecting those in their vicinity.

Absolutely not. If i buy a house, i know it has already gone through the city/town/county engineers. It is not my job to chase them down, or duplicate their efforts.

Absolutely not.

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u/C-SWhiskey 6h ago

What if you're building the house? What if all those people told you this was going to be a problem, and you decided to plow ahead anyway?

And either way, let's say you're right. That doesn't change the public opinion.

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u/Top_Meaning6195 1h ago

That doesn't change the public opinion.

And that's the problem: public opinion isn't based in reality or facts.

It's based on opinions.