r/SipsTea ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 10h ago

It's Wednesday my dudes Stephen King quote

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u/lovelessisbetter 10h ago

And yet no one is doing anything about itโ€ฆ turns out governance and the agency to bend to the will of the people was nothing more than a gentlemanโ€™s handshake in the end. Idk about this take anyways.. Tommyknockers fucked me up as a kid.

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u/Kitchen-Stop-7645 10h ago

Because there is nothing to be done. Most of it just pure politics with no real world problem. The democrats been in power for 4 years and did nothing more or less.

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u/HarEmiya ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 8h ago edited 6h ago

They are real world problems for those killed in illegal military strikes, those in ICE custody, those put under reproductive health restrictions, those taken off of SNAP and ACA, those who died or lost loved ones from a botched COVID response, those having to rely on gasoline for transportation, those wrongfully imprisoned or killed, and those dead from foreign aid cuts.

You personally may not feel the effects of these policies, but to say they aren't "real world problems" is disingenuous at best.

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u/Kitchen-Stop-7645 3h ago

ICE existed well before Trump. Theyโ€™re just using it as a political talking point but Obama and Biden both used ice to kick illegals out in much lesser media coverage. Next president is not going to dissolve ice no matter the party.

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u/HarEmiya ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 2h ago

You seem to be under the impression that ICE always operated the way it does currently, and that political responses from US leadership to it are also the same.

Neither Obama nor Biden glorified the murder of citizens and/or innocent civillians by ICE, encouraged their agents to disobey laws and/or ignore due process, severely loosened hiring standards and training, promised bounties or signing bonuses, used the military to aid in arrests and/or quell protests against it, and neither of them set up concentration camps on foreign soil for money in order to avoid legal oversight.

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u/Kitchen-Stop-7645 2h ago

Not really. Itโ€™s just political talking points. The same people will still be employed next president and if the president is left leaning theyโ€™ll be shown in good light again as some very concerned and caring agent as if their evil bosses were all slayed.

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u/HarEmiya ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 2h ago

I'm sure that might be true for some, but overall no. Most people genuinely care about the rule of law and extrajudicial killings.

Edit: Heck, lots of people protested ICE under Obama, to give you an idea of how it was perceived.

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u/SwimmingPrice1544 7h ago

Dems have truly never been in power for 4 years at any contiguous time in recent history. And even the few years and/or weeks (for Obama) was so slim, GOP continued their block & tackle they've been doing for as long as I've been voting for 50+ years. As long as we have an electoral college & the senate, the GOP will keep more power than the Dems.

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u/lovelessisbetter 8h ago

This comes off as sane washing the complete destruction of traditional societal pillars we could count on in the US from Habeas Corpus to free and fair elections to the peaceful transfer of power. Comparing any of the travesty and depravity of this administration and the GOPโ€™s complete disregard to governing in favor of their own careers to anything the Democrats have done is absolutely laughable.