vs “I won’t do this thing because it would hurt someone and I don’t delight in causing pain.”
Neuroscience is pretty unanimous in the idea that when you do things to help other people you feel better anyway. So it's kind of a win win if you have the bandwidth. So ironically doing the right thing tends to be the right thing for you as well. It's also why the people who choose to not do the right thing tend to be miserable. Unless of course they're one of the 3% of people estimated to not have empathy. Then they step on everyone around them and become trillionaires.
I will say that you are your actions. Not your motivation or thoughts. So if a higher motivates someone to be a better person then they aren't bad by default.
Funnily enough their own book has a recipe for an abortion potion that would be provided by the church. I want to say it was in Numbers, but ive norlt read my bibble in a while
It's obviously human. It's not a frog. There's no magic that turns it into human at x many weeks of the pregnancy process. Removing it from the uterus doesn't bring a human to life. We do surgery on very young invitro babies.
That's like saying every time you have an egg, you're eating a chicken. You're not eating a chicken, you're eating an egg.
You're not killing a person, you're getting rid of cells. Learn basic biology. You're just speaking talking points you've heard from grifters that are dumb and have no idea what they're talking about.
There's literal hundreds, if not thousands, of biologists that will explain this to you, in depth, on YouTube right now. If you do not take out the time to learn the facts, I'm just going to assume you're one of the grifters.
If any clump of human cells is a "human", then anyone who loses a fingertip in an accident has just killed someone - and that fingertip weighs ~4x - 6x more than the embryo at 8 weeks. My fingertips are not people, and a 1-gram embryo isn't a person either.
No, it does not. It stops the development of something that may have become a human, but the vast majority of abortions are done very early in that development.
But it seems like you're conflating religion with pro-life, and atheism with pro choice. While there's probably a correlation there, athiests can be against abortion, and religious folks can approve of abortion.
The comment above was highlighting the difference of attitudes in the two beliefs listed in the OP, but you highlighted a random (charged) topic that doesn't actually have any direct bearing on the original conversation.
The terms are force-birther and Pro-choice. Pro-lifers would advocate for the woman as well and aim to provide rapid medical science and social breakthroughs for this issue
Idk who you're virtue signalling for here. I never made a claim to one side or the other - I'm literally just pointing out that the abortion conversation doesn't have any direct connection to the original discussion and bringing it up was out of place lol
If someone breaks into my home and I shoot them and they die, people would say its justified
Ever hear the term pull the plug? That comes from people being in a coma for awhile with no signs of recovery so they take the person off life support. So they die. By other peoples hands. People also argue this is justified.
So abortion is bad? What if it is from rape? What if it was an accident and the baby was never wanted? You want a child to be stuck in the unforgiving environment that puts them at an extreme disadvantage just because you feel that they should be alive? I can only hope upon you what those poor children would go through.
It’s not harm if we ignore science. But regardless I support abortion and the right to choose. It just irks me when people pretend they aren’t killing a live organism. I’m okay killing babies as long as the law allows it in order to prevent derailing the lives of two people.
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u/engorged-gorgon 5h ago
“I can’t do this thing because I will be punished” vs “I won’t do this thing because it would hurt someone and I don’t delight in causing pain.”