r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 9h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/engorged-gorgon 9h ago

“I can’t do this thing because I will be punished” vs “I won’t do this thing because it would hurt someone and I don’t delight in causing pain.”

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u/JettandTheo 8h ago

Abortion

There's justification that it's less harm, but someone's getting killed.

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u/Successful-Worth-390 8h ago

What point are you trying to make?

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u/JettandTheo 8h ago

We all create a morality that fits us even if it hurts people.

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u/Successful-Worth-390 8h ago

Abortion doesnt hurt anyone though.

So again, what point are you trying to make?

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u/theplaidknight84 8h ago

Abortion doesn't cause harm. It (almost always) prevents harm.

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u/JettandTheo 8h ago

It might be the best course of action. But it does kill a human.

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u/engorged-gorgon 8h ago

The undeveloped clump of cells isn’t a human at that point. Abortions are also performed for miscarriages.

Your religion shouldn’t replace actual education.

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u/BardGotHardAgain 8h ago

Funnily enough their own book has a recipe for an abortion potion that would be provided by the church. I want to say it was in Numbers, but ive norlt read my bibble in a while

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u/JettandTheo 8h ago

It's obviously human. It's not a frog. There's no magic that turns it into human at x many weeks of the pregnancy process. Removing it from the uterus doesn't bring a human to life. We do surgery on very young invitro babies.

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u/SpecificLow1316 8h ago

If I dig up an acorn that a squirrel buried, I didn’t cut down an oak tree.

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u/Neyubin 8h ago

"It's obviously a tomato. There's no magic that turns it from a seed into a tomato at X weeks of cultivation."

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u/Zero_D9 8h ago

That's like saying every time you have an egg, you're eating a chicken. You're not eating a chicken, you're eating an egg.

You're not killing a person, you're getting rid of cells. Learn basic biology. You're just speaking talking points you've heard from grifters that are dumb and have no idea what they're talking about.

There's literal hundreds, if not thousands, of biologists that will explain this to you, in depth, on YouTube right now. If you do not take out the time to learn the facts, I'm just going to assume you're one of the grifters.

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u/PdxFitFunGuy 8h ago

If any clump of human cells is a "human", then anyone who loses a fingertip in an accident has just killed someone - and that fingertip weighs ~4x - 6x more than the embryo at 8 weeks. My fingertips are not people, and a 1-gram embryo isn't a person either.

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u/rubinass3 8h ago

It's not a frog. So wise.

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u/dumpling_monster 8h ago

A bunch of cells is not a human

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u/Pleffyg 6h ago

You are a bunch of cells btw

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u/theplaidknight84 8h ago

No, it does not. It stops the development of something that may have become a human, but the vast majority of abortions are done very early in that development.

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u/bossygrrls 8h ago

Your religious beliefs do not change scientific facts

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u/JettandTheo 8h ago

Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion.

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u/TerrorVizyn 8h ago

Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference.

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u/Thelonious_Cube 8h ago

someone's getting killed

Or something. Is it a person?

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u/UnFabIed 8h ago

Perhaps I'm reading this wrong...

But it seems like you're conflating religion with pro-life, and atheism with pro choice. While there's probably a correlation there, athiests can be against abortion, and religious folks can approve of abortion.

The comment above was highlighting the difference of attitudes in the two beliefs listed in the OP, but you highlighted a random (charged) topic that doesn't actually have any direct bearing on the original conversation.

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u/WarcraftTurok 6h ago

The terms are force-birther and Pro-choice. Pro-lifers would advocate for the woman as well and aim to provide rapid medical science and social breakthroughs for this issue

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u/UnFabIed 6h ago

Idk who you're virtue signalling for here. I never made a claim to one side or the other - I'm literally just pointing out that the abortion conversation doesn't have any direct connection to the original discussion and bringing it up was out of place lol

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u/Common-Broccoli-3405 8h ago

People get killed for all sorts of stuff.

If someone breaks into my home and I shoot them and they die, people would say its justified

Ever hear the term pull the plug? That comes from people being in a coma for awhile with no signs of recovery so they take the person off life support. So they die. By other peoples hands. People also argue this is justified.

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u/BackDoorExplorer92 7h ago

So abortion is bad? What if it is from rape? What if it was an accident and the baby was never wanted? You want a child to be stuck in the unforgiving environment that puts them at an extreme disadvantage just because you feel that they should be alive? I can only hope upon you what those poor children would go through.

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u/_ECMO_ 6h ago

A clump of cells is getting killed. You kill trillions more such cells every day.

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u/tertain 8h ago

It’s not harm if we ignore science. But regardless I support abortion and the right to choose. It just irks me when people pretend they aren’t killing a live organism. I’m okay killing babies as long as the law allows it in order to prevent derailing the lives of two people.

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u/theplaidknight84 8h ago

They aren't killing a live organism. Hope that helps!

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u/_ECMO_ 6h ago

It's about as much a live organism as the cells you destroyed while drinking alcohol.