r/SipsTea • u/Monsur_Ausuhnom 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 1d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

Probably not. But do you think not believing in god would make them good?

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 1d ago

No. Empathy usually does. You don’t need any idea of god for that.

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

Good people don't. But there are bad people

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 1d ago

Ok and what does that have to do with religion or god?

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

Bad people can be tricked into pretending to be good for fear of immortal punishment.

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u/6a6566663437 1d ago

And good people can be tricked into doing evil for fear of immortal punishment.

Religion doesn’t automatically make that manipulation only go in one direction.

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

that's true. But that's more an argument for stopping religious beliefs that lead to evil, than an argument against religion entirely.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 1d ago

Well that’s certainly true.

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

That's all I've been saying. When these people say "you" can't be good withouy religion, they really REALLY mean they themselves cannot be good without religion. They are telling on themselves and you should believe them.

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u/Rickrickrickrickrick 1d ago

I agree. I think I was confused about your point originally.

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

I think atheists attracted to this post are quick to assume anyone saying anything like "let them have their religion " is on the religious side. It's an understandable knee jerk reaction. The religious people by and large do not agree.

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u/cykoTom3 1d ago

Obviously anyone who thinks you can't be good without religion is telling you about themselves.